Why not just cancel the order?

I would contact your distributor first, they may not be cool with you giving your slot to someone else. If you cancel, they may want to reclaim the spot and resell it themselves. Just a thought.

No kidding, they likely have a long list of people waiting incase one opens up.

Curious, what was your price? Distributor?

I'm interested. Just sent you a PM.

Why cancel? You can make money when it ships to you. Leave it in the box and add $1k.

because he's not a scumbag, perhaps?

I'm sure the vendor will be happy to let u off the hook so he can charge someone desperate more then he charged u... Don't think for one minute it wouldn't happen

This would make him a scumbag? WTF....

I was thinking the same thing....."scumbag" ? Really?

Perhaps "opportunist" is more appropriate.

I generally dislike folks who buy up products in short supply just to gouge people for a quick profit (without adding any value)....

Perhaps Im just a bit jaded since I was out trying to find .22lr this weekend....and the opportunists/scumbags have decimated the supply.

Are .22lr in short supply? Maybe I should stock up.... I think there is plenty on the west coast

Yaa....when my son was into wrestling....he loved Jeff Hardy...the "opportunists" (50
yr old men)would wait outside of Toys-R-Us..till it opened and snatch them up.....had to pay $30-$35....for a $6.50 item (man doll?).....but I guess that's just life ehh................Joey

I was at Walmart the other day and saw they had restocked the 22lr. Fleet farm has them also. There was a big push 2 months ago to step up product in ammo.

Everybody is a "scumbag" when they buy a pin for less than they sell it for.

Except when you do it. Then you were just lucky and smart.

I need to pick up 22lr! its the only round I'm low on

No, you missed the point (intentionally, Im sure).

Ive not seen it in Walmart yet, buts its finally showing up at Gander Mountain here. Still elevated prices, but not as bad as last year.

Right after Sandy Hook, 22 disappeared. Our local walmart had the same group of clowns waiting for the stock to show up, buying it all for $20/brick, then posting it on gunbroker for $50/brick.... been going on for YEARS

Luckily, I did my panic buying slightly before that and got 10 cases for $259/case. But thats running low (i shoot a lot of steel plate competitions.... and since Ive recently gotten hooked on Supressors, I've been burning through .22 like crazy!)

22lr is for baby's... I buy 50ae 20 rd at $50 a pop.. That's a mans round lol
Or could be why my desert eagle is a safe queen

Wow, so everyone is a scumbag that buys something and sells it for more? As a buyer, are you a scumbag if you pay $2k less for a machine still NIB from a guy that is selling because he cannot afford it or the game is not as great as people thought it would be?

It's called "market." If GB is a huge hit the GB LE will command far more than MSRP. If it is a flop they will likely sell for far less. The initial buyer is taking a chance and has a opportunity to make money or lose money depending on how the game goes over.

I guess the distributors are all scumbags also for selling for more than they paid. Everyone at Stern are scumbags for making money on a product. The employees are scumbags for accepting pay for something they should build for free. Nobody is entitled to make money on anything except people that work outside of pinball.

I am glad everyone is making money on pinball. The more money that flows into the pinball field the better.

So has this spot been filled?

Nah dude...that was so like an hour ago.....they're talking about guns now...... ..............Joey

22lr are all over the place up here. The ammo shortage garbage talk has gone away.

.06/.07 a round here http://www.targetsportsusa.com/22-long-rifle-ammo-c-202.aspx

I've been loading my own at about $.20 a round. But I stocked up on new casings and lead a LONG time ago. I have about 1000 spent casing to tumble

My favorite gun to shoot!

sooooooo how does a straight up dude trying to help a fellow pinsider obtain a Ghostbusters pin twist into a gun show??? DEAD THREAD

maybe there is a "gunside" for the convo/debate?

great!!

Of course there is, everyone wants to flip your LE for a profit. #trustnoone

OT: West coast checking in here and .22 LR is still very hard to find

Indeed.

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You're an asshole if you buy something in limited supply that a lot of people want with the intention of selling it again for a markup while putting in nothing yourself. If you buy a pin and then fix it up, you've added value. If you buy a pin you want and later get tired of it and see that the price has gone up, lucky you. If you jump on some $50 Craigslist pin too quickly for someone who actually cares to have a chance, bring it home, windex the glass, and then post it here for $500.... you're an asshole

<Political opinion removed> Nobody is entitled to the $50 pin on Craigslist except the person that is willing to rebuild it to new standards and then sell it for a loss.

If Stern is willing to sell pins for $8k I could care less who buys them. I'm sure glad this is still the USA where people have the opportunity to do what they want instead of being told exactly what they can do and what they can own.

BTW, the "Added Value" could just be the fact that the person buying it first is taking ALL the risk of whether the game is good or not. Look at all the people here talking about how happy they were that they did not end up with WWF LE. If you tried to spec that title you lost a lot of money. If you want to "play before pay" then you are going to pay more if the machine is a hit. That is life.

Sean I have plenty for both of us...If the apocalypse hits before you get a chance to stock up just come down here, we can run my pins on my generator and wait it out...

Just a reminder ... Robin has requested that discussions about guns be kept off of Pinside. Please respect his wishes.

From this post forward, any reference regarding guns or ammunition will be moderated and the poster risks ejection.

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Sorry about the political post - I did not read the TOS prior and did not realize it was a violation - again my apologies.

Considering the person who made the original comment has been trying to get 4200 for an RFM I wouldn't be jumping to his defense so quickly. Some people just want every last dime they can get out of the hobby. Some folks don't like this.

Although I respect your opinion on this matter, I disagree with it 100%.

If you found a $20 bill on the sidewalk would you turn it in to the local police?

Now, if you keep it and spend it on yourself does that make you more of a jerk than if you would have donated to it charity?

I would argue that no, it does not make you a jerk, no matter how you choose to spend it.

Should car dealerships not sell automobiles in their lot for the most that they possibly can? You realize that they didn't pay as much for the vehicle as their customer pays, correct? What if they took in a classic car on trade for $1500 and then they sold it for $10,000 to a collector. Are they an a-hole?

Now, I can happily point out a couple other actions that I believe do make people a-holes.
-Driving while intoxicated
-Driving without insurance
-Wasting natural resources
-Starting fires just because
-Drug company executives that charge exorbitant amounts of $ for life saving drugs that were gifted to them for FREE with the intent of saving people's lives. They patent these "free gifts" and mark the drugs up as high as possible
-Disrespecting others because you do not agree with their beliefs

While I don't love the pin flippers and dealers that tend to prey on those that just want to play pinball, I also do not consider them a-holes. If they are overcharging people for a pin or service, it makes any games or service that reputable folks on Pinside offer, a much better choice.

IMO, these machines were meant to be played and enjoyed. Not hoarded for the sole purpose of making money off of them.

Yep, I started at $4,200. The machine is 100% like brand new. There is not even a speck of dust on it. I paid $3700 for it and spent $300 installing LEDs and a video amp. You might also want to visit the ad before you speak about what you do not know - I am lowering the price $25 per day until it sells. I am letting the market determine the price. The BUYER will determine what it sells for. When you look at all the trashed out RFMs out there and the dealers trying to get $4,800 out of their slugged out routed machines I do not think I am too far off, but again, the market will decide.

Why can't we do both??

I agree. I am surprised someone has not called you a crook for selling a NIB CC for $15k. What was that machine new, $4k?

Some have and now he's selling a NIB AMH for $9000!

So far it looks like the market disagrees. As for 300 in leds, they don't add a dime in value to the machine. It was customized to your tastes and you wanted to get every last dime out of it. In regards to paying 3700, you got had. End of the day though you suggested trying to scalp the machine so to speak. So yes, you want to squeeze every last dime out.

Get out the pitchforks!

How did I "get had?" I agreed to pay $3,700 from a nice couple less than 2 miles away. I offered and they sold. I wanted the best one I could find and it happened to be right next door to me. If I lose money it is not a big deal as I have enjoyed playing it. What does "scalp the machine" mean anyway? Why is it that negativity is the norm for pinball? I really enjoy playing these machines and trading them when something new comes along. Is that so wrong? And, yes, you are correct. So far the market does not agree my price is low enough. I'm not too worried. It will sell when it sells - no big deal. Also, the video amplifier definitely adds value. It is a completely different game without it. It is not an easy install for a non - Wells Gardner monitor which mine has. Play one without the amp and then play one with it installed and you will understand. As for the LEDs - that is up to the buyer to determine. I think it makes a huge difference.

If someone wants to spend their hard earned cash and stash a pin away based on complete speculation, more power to them, they get all the risk, and if it works out, all the reward, as it should be. I'm thankful for this free market economy, it's not perfect, but without it I wouldn't be able to afford this hobby. We just have to be very careful of what we wish for when it comes to people being allowed to make money or not

When It comes to selling spots in line, I would think the distributors would not tolerate selling spots before game is delivered or paid in full on a hot game as it leads to bad experiences for their customers and ultimately their business's. I would also think that leaves a bad taste in their mouth when they have wholesaled a game and John Q Public took the profit margin out of it when the distributor was floating it in their inventory. Either way, I guess the same free market rules apply unless contractually different on when buying.

I wasn't on this Forum when Tron was around NIB or AC/DC, but were the sales like this? Were these two pins sold out right after announcement? Was there this type of Hype? I'm guessing people are thinking about these two pins when they are speculating or stashing ones away. Doesn't hurt that a NIB Tron appears to have sold for $15-$16k just a couple weeks ago. Time will tell if this is going to be a Tron or WWE.

I have to commend the OP as it appears he was just wanting to give his spot away. Pretty cool!