Is there any way that we can get our wives to like pinball and be cool with us buying multiple pins?

anybody have any pins for sale near the Toronto area?

According to the visa merchant rules, the merchant is not allowed to charge extra for using visa. That's against their contract and could result in the terminal being revoked.

Are there any pinball conventions coming up in the Toronto area?

I'm looking for a good BOP but they are becoming increasingly difficult to find.

Avoid them, I bought my machine from them which was supposedly shopped and under warranty 2 months ago. Well Playdium store just picked up that same machine today for proper servicing. Either they are incapable of doing a proper clean up of a machine or they simply do not return your call.

I'm looking for a really nice BOP, preferably local to Toronto

Yah Playdium is a bit pricey but they have fantastic super fast service. The point is that I shouldn't have to go to them to begin with if Pinball Outlet was competent.

Have you seen the pins? How is the condition?

I thought of that too but the advantage of the LE amounts to a few hundred dollars worth of extras like shaker motor, plywood base etc.

I'm still looking for a good BOP if any of you Canadians feel like parting with one.

A-list games don't last too long. TZ sold here in Toronto in 2 hours.

next week that super chexx will be a lovely coat hanger. The kids will love that too.

A really nice one sold here in Ontario a few weeks back for 7K and it was in nicer condition from the pics than yours.

Good thing for the guy who offered $7500 that it was turned down. Based on the pin sold in Ontario, it was overpriced. The pin from Ontario would have shipped as well. Best way to determine the price of a pin is to compare it to recent sales. That needs to include pins sold in other provinces that can ship to Alberta. Seller has stated he wanted to know what the price is in Alberta and that is the only way. The seller just happens not to prefer shipping the pin which reduces the potential buyers and would drive the price even lower. Not wanting info on recent sales would result in an uninformed decision and potential problems with the deal. Who cares? How is this supposed to help? I don't know if you are trying to be a dick or are just plain stupid.

Is there any difference between this spiderman and spiderman black other than the backglass with a black spiderman?

I'm not surprised, AC/DC is a proven excellent game. Kiss is too much of an unknown. As far as theme goes, I think the two bands are at par with each other. AC/DC will be tough to beat on gameplay.

I just bout one a few months ago for $8500 but I think they are a bit higher now since the new code was released for it.

I'll give you $4001

what if a cat barked, then it would be a dog.

Good now we have the exact number, but for the record I fully understand Meegis' point. Starburst has to make a profit and they are not going to give anyone top dollar. Maybe it was a low ball initial offer who knows but I think we can all agree that if you want top dollar, post listing here, Macca, Pinball Rev, or even Kijiji is the best way to go. Im not sure about ebay since you can get dinged by paypal if the buyer has some remorse and disputes the listing.

Its a great price, they were going for $4500 here and not nearly as nice.

It's only bad if you don't have cash, space or both.

There is one for trade in London, ON. You can give that a shot. Atariaction's sold about a month ago.

http://www.pinballrevolution.com/threads/nice-ij-for-trade.3775/

Glad to help our pinball brothers out west.

There are worse and more expensive hobbies to get into. Pinball is actually not that bad when you consider that they tend to keep their value. You can buy 10 pins with a $100K loan from the bank. Interest would be say $2.5-$3K for the year. You can sell the pins after one year and most likely get $100k back. Total cost is say $3k. Consider just one vacation for a family of 5 and you can lose $15k easily.

absolutely gorgeous, nice job.

Seems like a good game, a lot of women like it so its an easy sell to the significant other. It was asked about price earlier and it also depends on the build date as well. Prior to Sept 2013 they had the 5V boards that blew often, I personally know a guy that went through 8 of them. The new boards are 7.5V buffered and seem to do the trick but occasionally fail as well. I'm not saying that its the cause of people giving up their WOZs but may be a contributing factor. I will most likely get one in the future.

that looks fantastic but which pin do you like better?

I have both and think they are the greatest pins that Stern put out but I dont see them trending over 10k. Two STLE's sold within the month for around $8500. Tron LE is higher for some reason at about 10K-11K depending on mods and condition. I personally feel that they should be priced within $500 of each other since I wouldn't pick one over the other at around the 9K-9.5K mark. Just my $.02 as an owner.

It's your machine and I sincerely hope you get what you want for it. The thing is with selling pins, you can be astronomically high on a price for 99.9% of the people looking to buy, but all you need is one guy to pull the trigger. Hope you find your trigger puller. GLWS.

I couldn't agree more. There is a lot of tension and frustration with the Canadian pin market lately. Fewer pins coupled with our dollar tanking has been a deadly combination. Hopefully we can all get through this together.

I'll agree to some extent, there are some cases where I prefer the pro. I personally like Met Pro over the Met LE because the hammer seems to get in the way of the sparky shot from the right flipper. Maybe I was just used to playing the pro. Plus the hammer takes up too much space. Everything else the LE is better than pro.

He's a Canadian, he sells pinballs, he posts in a "Anybody in Canada Have Any Pins They Want To Sell" thread. Hmm.. I don't see a problem.

Pricing Woz is extremely tricky mainly because the boards have changed so much since the beginning. Earliest being 5V then 7V then 7.5V buffered. Problem is you can't simply replace the 5V for 7.5 buffered without changing the power supply as well. In addition there may be problems associated with certain runs of power supply board smoking/catching on fire around the 2013-2014 runs. Those can be replaced but may cost you $350US if you want to be proactive. Since earlier boards as we all know by now have higher failure rates, those machines should come with a lower price point to offset the future risks/potential problems down the line.

Fast forward to the Ruby Reds in 2015 and you have a much more polished, electronically stable machine. Its only because of the shitty dollar that its 12K+ or it would have been a 9.5K machine at par.
Paying a premium for a Ruby Red may be worth it to not deal with the potential issues. So that pinsider that paid 12k+ may not be too far off.

Difference between the pro and the LE should be around $750-$1000 based on the spread when they first came out and the value of the differences including powdercoating, shaker, and wooden plaques over apron with signatures of Jack and the boys.

Scott's price for his WOZLE is competitively priced and if he was closer to me, ie no shipping and I can see it myself, I would be seriously considering it.

yup

I personally would pay more for it than a WOZLE with the 5V boards and older PS. Price? Probably what starburst charges minus Tax and delivery since its an apples to apples comparison to what they are currently selling.

This is only a guide but based on what actually sold and not just "asking". IMHO the prices that I would say are "fair" are as follow:

WOZLE EC edition 5V boards, bad PS $8000-$8500
WOZLE EC edition 5V Boards good PS* $8500-$9000
WOZLE EC edition 7.5V Boards, $9500-$10000
WOZLE RR edition all have 7.5V, good PS $11500-$12000
WOZLE RR edition NIB $13250

*need to contact Jersey Jack to determine if its one of the affected ones.

Standards are about $750-$1000 less per category.

Ranges depend on mods, condition and location of pin. Again I personally would pay the higher price for the bottom 3 versions but I know a lot of guys who would rather pay the lower priced ones and take the higher risk. Hence the wide range but the take home message is that price of WOZ is not as easy to determine without really asking a lot of questions.

Hope that helps.

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I thought you were going for a full restore on that bride Dustin.

congrats to buyer and seller, great game for a great price.

Hey Blackbeard, if you transported that pin just across the border and returned back to the states, would you need to pay tax? If any of us picked up the pin in the States and came over the border with it, we would be taxed. Depending on how close you are to the border, you may want to add that border "service" to sweeten the deal.

So I guess there is no advatage in having our American friends bring it over the border for us if they are going to be taxed as well.

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A beautiful HUO sold about 4 months ago for 6K

Beautiful Stern Galaxy but is the Atlantis for sale.

So its a 1 in a million chance you are going to sell Atlantis.

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Congrats Dzoomer, Flintstones is an incredibly underrated pin with huge modding potential. Guests that have no clue about pinball ratings or value will gravitate to it. You and your family will enjoy it.

Did you take United? then I understand your ordeal and trauma.

Probably $1000-$1200 difference in price.

FlipperFreak So do you drop ship to our homes or depot? what is the shipping cost over the cost of the pin?

Actually you are both right. If a game is still currently available NIB then you need to adjust it to the current USD to reflect that. If a game is not available and the original owner paid when the dollar was shit, then technically his landed price becomes street price. There are other factors of course like competition with other titles, overall value , collectibilty and of course what a buyer is willing to pay.

True, I should have added that in addition to adjusting to current USD expect to also knock $500-$1000 off. It bugs me too when people try to sell their games that are still available from retailers for full price plus full taxes plus full set up and delivery fee .As long as we are all clear that you can't go back and say that an LE that is no longer available NIB that had an MSRP of say $6000US back in 2011 should be priced at $7400CAN. If that was the case, a Tron LE would be going for that today.

Anyone know where there is a good source for PDI/Roman Glass? I am addicted to the stuff and could use another 6 sheets.

Damn Spencer you are killing me!!

I would say around $12000 for a stock one.

I wish he would have posted "no longer for sale" instead of "sold" as it creates confusion as to what the expected price should be. I was on the fence with Spencer's last year and I know he had a hard time selling his eventually for 5k.

Take his money! If it was reversed he would send a collection agency after you.

But what if I only want PDI?