Exactly!!! Mine is ordered!

If you click on the classified ad link it's listed as Langley, BC

Looking for LOTR or Road Show. Somewhat local is preferred...

It's in Ottawa... You're in Ottawa... Go for it!! (And you can haul it with your soon to be acquired hand truck )

OMG flashback with those OH YEAHs. Annoyed me so much i changed the sounds when I owned it. Way before pinbrowser or pinsound lol.

FWIW I think your asking price is certainly reasonable. JD does nothing for me but if you decide to sell that Dr Who let me know!

The Dr would get lots of lovin at my place too!!

It's on my short list of games I must have. DrWho, LOTR, and SW Prem.

Can anyone here vouch for mIkea? Long distance purchases can be a bit worrisome. No marketplace history on here and only 19 posts in 2 years..

Awesome thanks

P.S. See you at Tom's in 2 weeks!

In the end it doesn't really matter how much you paid. Did you feel it was a fair price? Are you enjoying the game?

The fact remains that this is not a game that sells well. They are sitting NIB in a bunch of distributor's stores/warehouses in the US and Canada. They will continue getting discounted until they sell.

The only issue you will run into is when you get bored of it and want to sell/trade it may be difficult to get what you feel is a 'reasonable value' since NIB can still be had, possibly with significant discounts...

Just enjoy the game.

I totally understand. I do feel like Geographical location matters a LOT. I don’t even mean us/can or east-vs west here. Even Toronto-Mtl-Ottawa has very disparate pricing for the same titles. Definitely a “local” phenomenon it seems.

Didn’t mean to come off as a db. It Just doesn’t sound like you overpaid. Most likely You just paid around market value and didn’t get as much of a deal as you thought? Been there and done that too...

Kinda shocked about the 7k JP though. Game is still in production and selling like hot cakes. Seems odd it goes so cheap on the used market. Yes I have one lol.

Don’t forget to factor in tax. PST/GST/HST... whatever your province has...

For example my 9000$USD JPLE cost me 13,600$CAD all in last fall when the exchange rate was better. I had to go pick it up in Montreal. If you want Ottawa delivery it’s a bit more.

I have a Road Show listed on the Ottawa area. link: https://www.maaca.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26427

I have never shipped so would rather not. I can't deliver anywhere anyway my truck is out of commission right now.

You can usually break even on used games if you didn’t over pay to start with. Add-ons(mods) are usually a right off. You almost never get that back. The taxes are the killer on NIB.

It’s kind of funny that pinball people think like that though. Would you think of buying a new car and then getting 100% of that money back including taxes a year or 2 later when you sell it?

Love mine. But none used my way so had to go full price retail. Not so fun lol.

Game is sold.

And in the mean time.. Just come by the house to play my LE!!!

If the border can re-open you may be able to get one priced reasonably.

Is it a Blackout????

jk

And good luck crossing the closed border

Paid MSRP for JPLE and MMrRE with P1 Mtl.

Exactly. Overpriced games don’t sell on collector forums although they may on Kijiji (unaware noobs). I don’t think this particular game is overpriced but time will tell. So many (mostly older WPCs) on the other forums (PBR and MAACA) just sit there forever with tons of comments “I can’t believe this hasn’t sold yet”... i always want to add “it would sell if it was priced right”.

In the end it’s only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it....

LF SWEP1 P2K kit. Actually I could settle for just the pf and translite but prefer the full kit.

I've asked dgpinball about his kit but he ain't replying. I'm in the Ottawa area if shipping isn't possible.

They do come up for sale in your area. Are you on pinballrevolution.com?

I sold a Roadshow a few months ago. Found a woz too.

Well a big thanks to Tinnhound for the lead and thanks to Lord_of_the_pins for a super smooth transaction and arranging shipping.

Now if I can only get my Pinbox setup to work on the original CRT I will be able to play it lol.

Games that are appropriately priced will always sell fast.

And it’s so awesome I figure about 11,700 of the folks who own them don’t want to sell theirs.

And where does it land in Canada? Can you expand on the process?

what makes you think it's a SW? They aren't shipping the IFPA rewards SW until Q2.

Yup. WOZ > Shadow.

Oh I didn't mean the monetary value. I meant fun factor/gameplay.

You can’t buy direct. It was his IFPA rebated game. Those are direct from Stern and prices aren’t to be publicly discussed.

The top players in the world get a once a year discount on Stern NIB. Use it or lose it.

Gonna be listing Dr Who this weekend with pics. Ottawa area.

Nice looking game. Shopped during Christmas holidays. All rubbers replaced. All lamps(LEDs) functional. There is no fade whatsoever on the cabinet as it was just re-done with new decals. The playfield has a full plastic protector imported from Germany. 3 X Brand new ramps. MPU has been replaced with a Rottendog WPC board. I have both the original translite and the alternate one which is installed now. You can have only one I am keeping the other. Buyer's choice.

LEDs throughout with both the LED-OCD and GI-OCD boards installed. It has the moving Dalek topper (Mark Davidson wobble head). The real deal, not the cheap eBay mod based on a servo. 6000$ without color display or Pinsound. Price is firm gonna be asking more on FB & Kijiji.

The color display is a ColorDMD(LED type). If you absolutely want it it's $500 FIRM non negotiable. I'd much rather keep it. Will not sell separate don't ask. Machine currently also has Pinsound+ and shaker. Once again expensive add-ons and would rather keep both. If you absolutely want it then Pinsound only-$450. Pinsound & Shaker $700 . Pricing is FIRM also.

If you buy the game and add-ons you can have it all for $7000 FIRM. At that price you can have both translites as well as a spare playfield (wall art) that is lit. Not for sale separately.

Gonna be listing RFM/SWEP1 this weekend with pics. Ottawa area.

Fully shopped during the Christmas holidays. Cleaned. Faulty switches replaced. All rubbers replaced. All lamps functional. New jump ramp and SOL vuk weldment installed. Original VUK was beat to shit. Bottom cabinet is very nice. Upper cabinet has a few scuffs. Has original CRT monitor which is bright and crisp. Original P2K glass is nice.

Runs on a Nucore computer that supports both Revenge from Mars and Star Wars Episode 1 games automatically. No external HD as the software is on a M.2 SSD and directly on the MB. Has an ArcadeVGA video card + video amp to run the CRT. Nucore detects which playfield is installed and boots up the appropriate game software. Comes with a new translite that I just purchase from Planetary Pinball and never even installed. Playfield has a little bit of wear at the SOL hole/vuk but has a protector covering it and preventing further damage. NO LEDs in this game it is all incandescent (original) lamps. Reason is simple: If you install LEDs the auto-detect capability of the software to determine which game is installed is lost. Also, the ability to detect burnt bulbs is lost. You can have my spare new and used but working incandescent bulbs(#44 and #555) as this was the only game I had with incandescent bulbs. Game has the "MyPinballs.com" custom software installed (RFM v2.22), as well as a harness that let's you install a shaker and real knocker if you wish. Has the 6-ball trough mod that is supported by the custom software. It also has the flashing LED saucer mod but it is incompatible with Nucore.

Comes with a Star Wars Episode 1 playfield, manual plunger, and translite as well. Playfield has barely seen any play there is no wear whatsoever. Translite is new just purchase from Planetary Pinball. 6000$ firm. Gonna be asking more on FB/Kijiji. 2 games in one. Switching between games takes less than 10 mins. I do it in 5. I can include brand new red T-molding if you wish to replace it at some point.

Finally got around to posting my 2 games(Ottawa area):

Dr Who - 6000$. Yes I know it's steep but I dumped a lot of cash to make this nice.
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1551058312

RFM+SWEP1 - 5800$
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1551056019

Time for them to go to make room for some incoming additions. Never shipped a game so not really equipped to pack up and pallet.

No. Just explaining where the money went to make it nice.

Would love to get a MBrLE at some point but out of room for now. Mostly out of cash too with 2 x NIB on the way. GLWTS of this beaut.

what is it man?

RFM is gone

Dr Who for sale in Ottawa. 5200$
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1552798418&posted=true&adActivated=true

Got my first low ball this morning on the de-modded and back to stock DW. Told the guy at that price I'm taking out the new ramps and putting the old cracked and glued ones back in. lol.

5k is definitely the lowest I am going with this thing. I'm priced well under the other 2 local ones and they don't have the moving topper. While mine isn't CQ it certainly looks nicer than the other 2.

Not really considering shipping as I have no way to transport to a depot right now. Oh and I've never wrapped and shipped a game before so not really comfortable with the process.

Cheaper to get a splitter from pinnovators. 1 sub can have 4 pins plugged into it. I have 6 games in 2 subs (although I went BIG on my subs). Works great.

Did you use their adapter to hook up to the cabinet speaker? Submix isn't meant for line level signal. I found that out too.

sold mine in July for 5500 with colordmd.

Game is sold

There is no duty on a pinball machine since it's made in the USA. You will pay brokerage fees to whichever company brings it across the border and pay GST + PST in QC. About 15%. Even if you bring it across the ON border you will then pay HST, about the same.

Unlike 15 years ago CBSA agents aren't stupid about pinball machine values unfortunately and if you falsify the value and they pick up on it(they most likely will) it will cost you much more than if you had just paid the the correct amount to start with. You will pay whatever inflated value they decide PLUS a fine.

And I’ve had the opposite where they searched everything including the pinball machines. Depends who you get and what mood they are in.

Just bought online from them yesterday and it got shipped right away. Maybe they are just busy.. I asked for pricing via email and got a response pretty fast.

CFTBL is a very pretty game. Also very shallow in rules. The fun factor tends to wear off fairly quickly. TSPP is a better bang for the buck and you will never get to the end probably. One of the deepest/hardest games to beat.

Stern only deals with individuals for the IFPA Stern Rewards program. You need to be in the top 100 IFPA ranked players worldwide to have access.

I believe the only pins that ever came with the security bar from factory were pinball 2000.

I don’t think anyone was trying to get on your case... it’s just the one thing you were using as the proof the game is HUO is actually proof of the opposite. HUO gets thrown around so much it’s lost its meaning anyway. It really doesn’t matter. Your game looks pristine and the condition is what drives the price, not claims of HUO.

If you weren’t so far I’d be seriously tempted. LOTR is on my very short list of wants.

GLWTS.

I could be persuaded to hit the road for either of BM66, TSPP, and TWD.

But as been mentioned there is no border crossing and probably won’t reopen for some time still.

There will always be undisclosed issues and things that aren't to your liking when buying sight unseen. I bought 2 WPCs like that and both had surprises. 1 more than the other. Pics avoided showing the extent of wear/damage. Bent legs, stripped leg holders (3 of 4), broken leveler nuts(normally welded to the legs but all 4 were broken and loose which gave the game a 1-2 inch circular wobble. This game was obviously transported on all legs at one point which caused that damage. It also had a damaged lockbar full of amateur electric welding holes (never in pics), plate glass instead of tempered (never in pics), and a few non-working things on my "fully working game".

The second game wasn't that bad - sort of. A few lighting add-ons by someone who doesn't understand how the lamp matrix works which caused matrix issues. That was easy to fix once I found the offending diodeless LED strips. However I had to replace the MPU as it was hacked beyond repair and not working right.

So yeah it happens.

PM'd

Some titles take a bit longer to get love. Others get love right away from all the hype then it dies off somewhat.

Seeing similar with Stranger Things. Sat in distro warehouses forever as it wasn't selling. What other Stern have had LE's available to buy NIB from legit distros a year after release??? Now that folks have tried it with complete code the like it and want one. None to be had anywhere whether Pro or Prem. Hell even here in the marketplace there are more JJP GNR for sale than STh.

So does P1 in Montreal. In fact it's the only new game left in the showroom.

Nitro typically only lists what they have in stock so check their website. nitropinball.com

Probably less than 10. Not that it matters. Game will sell for what someone is prepared to pay...

Mine won’t leave. It’s my go to game when I’m in the mood for just fun and little strategy. It’s also the game guests gravitate towards.

Meh. Not me. It’s not about the money. There’s nothing better that I can think of that I would want to replace it with.

You forgot to add: DON'T ask about the IJ. It's NOT for sale!

LOL Now I get it too. It seems you were saying the prices will come down significantly but really you were saying the opposite. Makes sense now.

What seems like too expensive now will be considered a good deal when you look back at 2021.

There's a guy in Ottawa selling a JJP POTC LE for $30kCAD. If any rich westerners here are interested go check out either MAACA or Pinball Revolution it's listed on both.

This is a Canadian thread selling to Canadians. You should list in $CAD like everyone else in the thread, especially with no shipping!

Edit: I just noticed the "tone" of my comment is abrupt but is meant to be joking

Meh.. I was bored lol

I'd be willing to trade my MMr Royal Edition for a Wonka CE - I only know of 2 that are somewhat local.

That's it. Other games or cash sale will be NOT considered.

Is that even a term that can be used anymore for pinball?

Good luck with your quest! I like your list!

I believe the maritimes have a higher HST(15%) and then add shipping. Not sure how mikewalsh is calculating things.

Dayuuuuuuum. That’s so 3-4 years ago!

You can always get a rough ballpark for any machine right here on pinside. Just look at what is currently for sale and/or what has sold in the last few months. I ignore the historical average pricing as it's not any good - especially since the start of the pandemic.

For example Hobbit (Smaug) are listed between 10.5k and 11.5k USD and that what they've been selling for lately as well. Keep in mind canadian prices can bit a bit lower or a bit higher depending on the machine and more importantly on location. I certainly wouldn't expect to sell my MMrRE for 26000-27000 CAD even though that's what they are selling for on pinside.

Ditto!

Wow. Guess my JPLE is worth over 20k according to your reasoning.. let’s not even talk about my MMrRE then… man I’ve been sitting on a gold mine!

You do realize that an ASKING price on pinside or ebay or kijiji etc doesn’t make it “market value” right?

Let's not get carried away here. A nice player's condition shadow sold 2 DAYS ago in Ottawa for 6500$ which is on par with Pinside US market value of around $5k USD. 1 uninformed or impatient buyer that pays 9500$ for a Shadow doesn't set market value.

It had finally settled down until you brought it up again but thanks for your input.

Wow shitty. GLWT search.

A premium isn’t in the same class as an LE and shouldn’t be priced like one either.

There you go Chambahz

Post deleted. You don't get me and I don't get you. That's fine. There's enough room in the world for all of us.

Oh please. If I wanted to price police I'd do it on Pinrev. I just think that astronomical pricing should be kept for FB and Kijiji, not forums of 'mostly' informed folks.

WTF do I know anyway, right? Integrity is a thing of the past. I might as well get used to it.

Anyway, back to the topic. I do not have any machines for sale. I play them, not buy them for a quick flip/profit.

If you ever come down to Ottawa you are more than welcome to come over and have a beer. I really mean that in the most sincere way. We can philosophize on where the hobby is going

Yes I'll probably be that guy that goes "back in MY daaayy, blah blah blah"

NVM. I don't feel like getting into a pointless argument through a keyboard.

I will say that Toronto and Vancouver prices are somewhat typically higher than the rest of the country.

BTW RFM is twice the game SWEP1 is. SW is beautiful but boring as f...

RFM can be updated to newer code that's still being developed. https://www.mypinballs.com/software/rfm/code_updates.jsp

If you get the Linux based Pinbox/Nucore system then the swap between RFM/SWEP1 is as simple as just switching playfields. Nothing else to do the computer recognizes which one is plugged in.

I have the LE with sidekick and it's pretty damn nice.

LOL. Whining about price policing even when there is none. This has to be the ultimate paranoia.

Poor noob. Probably heard that pinball was a sure thing for making money. Nobody explained to him that selling for profit while anyone can get it new right now doesn’t work.

Out of room at the Inn lol. 3 games coming in so 3 need to leave. This is the first one on the chopping block:

Medieval Madness Royal Edition. $20kUSD or $24.5kCAD. First owner. Add-ons: Stern HD Glass, Merlin MOD, Headphone station (Pinnovators), Lit flipper buttons.

Hasn't moved from where it was unboxed in my basement in 2020. No trades. I've never shipped a game but I'm sure there are folks in the Ottawa area that could help a potential buyer. Would prefer local pickup so the buyer can inspect to their heart's content.
Pics:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrmikeman65/sets/72177720297002177/

About the same as JJP POTC LE when new. And now they are still about the same on the used market.

You *COULD* just look it up in the marketplace right here on Pinside

Wasn't meant as salty, just an example of the madness. (See what I did there??)

New games landed in Canada after taxes (Ont/Que) are anywhere from about $10,500 - $19,000 depending on model/trim. JJP CEs for example are at that top range.

Peut-être

You should probably tell us where you are……

28% is the US/CAN exchange rate

Asking prices are meaningless when games don't sell. That does not equate to market value. You need to look at the recent SOLD games from the market place. Those show that they are mostly selling for 5-6.5k USD with a few exceptions higher/lower.

5kUSD is 6300CAD. 6.5kUSD is just over 8kCAD. So yes it should be possible to get a Shadow for 6500CAD if you are patient and don't expect collector quality.

Also, prices north and south of the border are different. If you want US prices then sell to US buyers. I just sold my MMrRE for much less than I could have in the US market. That's my choice to keep it north of the border.

In general folks only care about Pinside prices when it's to their advantage (shitty exchange rate). When rates get better then they use all kinds of excuses to ignore US prices Or they start some bs about "oh you have to add taxes". There are no taxes when buying used except if you cross the border so it's not a legitimate excuse.

Seen it before and will see it again.

Funny I see the opposite. Quite a few for sale. Seems there’s always at least 1 for sale in Canada at any time. They don’t move very fast as they tend to be listed pretty high.

Now if you meant “reasonably priced MET” then I agree…

Not that I’d be interested anyway. I just don’t seem to connect with music pins. I love the bands - Metallica, Rush, GNR, etc but the pins I find “meh” for some reason. But I know I’m the exception lol.

Keep in mind PinRev is mostly Toronto area. They seem to have more people willing to overpay.

They can't give you a price in CAD until they get the game. It depends on the rate on the day they had to pay for it.

Seems pretty straightforward. He runs a business and is in Canada. If he sells within Canada he has to charge tax. If he sells abroad and ships the game out of country he cannot charge Canadian tax. It's not about the currency, it's about where it's going.

Wow! Please share where you are getting these awesome prices! I come up with approx 1500-1700 for those add-ons not including a real backglass. My list doesn't include any shipping. These prices are if you go pick up at the distributor.
P.S. you forgot the side armor and the upgraded speakers.

Here's what I've seen/paid:
Stern HD Glass - $400 taxes in (I've bought a few from P1 and yes they cost that much)
Stern Shaker - $170 taxes in (comparing apples to apples. Stern shaker - not a knock off)
Powdercoating - $300-$500 depending on what you are getting done and style
Stern Side blades - about $130 taxes in
Stern Side armor - $370 taxes in
Speakers - $??? Depends on what you get but probably at least $100, more likely $150

That applies to any LE on the used market, thanks to flippers and gougers. However if you can buy it at retail cost then LE is in fact worth it as they are only 1500$ more expensive.

The game is clearly listed in Stern’s “IN PRODUCTION” section.

But in the end it's still a pro. Putting $5k of upgrades in a Ford Pinto won't turn it into a Ford Mustang...

Some folks collect for bragging rights/profit flipping, others collect because they actually love playing the damn things. To each his own.

My problem at home is my wife gets attached to our games but I am out of room. Makes it difficult to agree on what to trade lol.

you lose the contrast and magic with a LCD display. In order to get it bright enough you end up seeing the grey from the LCD backlighting. CRT is best even with the downside of the weight.

Unless you go OLED I guess…

I'm selling my LOTR soon but know nothing about shipping.

Don't believe the hype and do your own research. Prices have been dropping on pretty much all machines. Canadian collectors can't let go of the BS COVID pricing. They can't because many couldn't really afford the games but they used the "it will go up in value" excuse to justify their purchase. They also like to use the "but you'll pay GST if you import" reason for overcharging. Used prices need to be compared without taxes. Apples to apples right?

There are some for sale on marketplace right now - however just like any other marketplace, these are ASKING prices and don't necessarily reflect market value, otherwise they'd sell immediately. They are listed at 15k and up ASKING price. That's about 19k CAD. If you look at the games that actually sold on marketplace, most didn't sell at that price. One did sell at 15k a month ago.

It's up to you to decide if it's overpriced for the market at this time and you just need to be patient. Let the seller sit on his game for a while until he adjusts his price. Or move on to something else. Or pay what he wants!