Spencer's interpersonal skills are just fine in my books. If I had any interest in a Transformers pin I would deal with him in a heartbeat. His price is great, the machine is great and he's been around long enough to have a solid reputation in the pinball community. He's the kind of seller that I know I could trust his word on a machines condition, even without seeing it in person or pics.

I understand that he must come across as hostile, but you probably are unaware of how many tire-kickers and time-wasters there are in this hobby. If you're selling a machine, prepare to waste a lot of time replying to people who will ask tons of questions and then, without explanation, never get back to you (leaving you hanging and possibly missing real sales). If you've ever posted an ad on Kijiji, it's probably worse than what you get there.

So, number one rule: nobody wants to deal with an asshole. Be polite, be nice, be brief,ask the questions you have, and let the seller know if you're going to buy or not. Don't air your dirty laundry out in public, because the people who have been around here longer than you will almost always be favoured by the rest of us, simply because we know them. Spencer wasn't being rude, he was just pointing out that you are probably a tire kicker. I would make the same assumption. Most of us probably would. I get that you're looking for the best deal you can get on a great pin that you'll love, the first pin is a big deal and is a lot of money to plunk down, but understand that you're new to this and don't know what it's like from anyone who's been around a while's end.

Don't be offended, stick around, the canadian pin community needs more enthusiasts.

EDIT: SOLD!

Well I got more shot for my NGG. I still have to install the side rails. Still up for sale.

Installed the new beer seal last night on the lockdown bar. Just got a few more thing left to do before this puppy leaves.

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*show off the leds and hard to keep the backglass from reflecting off the playfield LOL*

*show the leds*

Thanks for the feedback. You are right that I am a hard bargainer and you can call me a tire kicker if you want. I don't want to make the same mistake that I made when I bought my TAF seven months ago.

Hey guys, just wanted to pass on a word about an excellent seller, Al (handle on pinside Algrande) out of Calgary.

I bought his WOZECLE off of him, and it was my first time buying a pin from a long distance. (He's in Calgary, I'm in Wasaga Beach....about an hour and a half north of Toronto), so I had to get the pin shipped.

Al assured me of the condition of the pin and that he would make sure to crate the pin and ship. Got the pin yesterday and let me tell you, he packed this thing like it was Fort Knox. Never took me so long to set up a pin, and when I finally got her all set up, everything worked 100% and the pin was exactly as he described it.

If anyone considers dealing with Al, do so with 1000% confidence.

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Thanks Reg....I hope you enjoy the game, it's a beauty!

Nice

Nice crating job! Did you do that yourself, or did someone else in Calgary? I have been tempted (and attempted) to buy from Calgary previously but the seller(s) were not big on shipping. You seem to have that issue figured out!

Wow, makes me want to buy a game from him. Anything else for sale?

Al is as top notch as a seller as he is a person, real stand up guy.

So, number one rule: nobody wants to deal with an asshole. Be polite, be nice, be brief,ask the questions you have, and let the seller know if you're going to buy or not. Don't air your dirty laundry out in public, because the people who have been around here longer than you will almost always be favoured by the rest of us, simply because we know them. Spencer wasn't being rude, he was just pointing out that you are probably a tire kicker. I would make the same assumption. Most of us probably would. I get that you're looking for the best deal you can get on a great pin that you'll love, the first pin is a big deal and is a lot of money to plunk down, but understand that you're new to this and don't know what it's like from anyone who's been around a while's end.
Don't be offended, stick around, the canadian pin community needs more enthusiasts.

Well put if only everyone knew the rules it wouldn't be so much work to sell a pin. With that said I'm thinking about putting my STTNG up for trade or sale. Hoping to get 6000$, but new to the pin community don't Know if that is reasonable.

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6k seems pretty high to me, are there any mods or anything done to it?

If that's his game in the picture it looks like it has full leds in the playfeild and back box and color dmd for sure. But I'm just going by what I see in the picture.

I had the crate from a previous purchase. I wish I built it, but now I know how to build one.

Sorry at work right now but I will put up more pic when I get home. As for extras. Above Playfield fully led, few leds in head, news roms installed, tri coloured plasma ball, green Playfield mod, coloured dmd. Also fully cliffy here is a before and after of the catapult. Only pic I have on me.

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I'm bored need pinball buy/sell trade action not into a road trip either, I'd move JP but will keep all my other games, so no trades for that. maybe.

Would consider : Safecracker, BBB, Joust, Maybe some cool classic Collector Quality Vids also. Ms Pac Man. Galaga, Pac Man, Asteroids.

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That STTNG looks good. Thank god those sling plastics are easy to get. You also have the plasma mod, which is really cool.

6k seems pretty high to me, are there any mods or anything done to it?

Totally subjective. Just because someone bolts, tapes or zip ties on some random mods does not make it worth more. It's a lot of work to remove that stuff. : )

I will be listing my STLE and maybe AFM if anyone is interested. I am in Toronto.

I think it's really nice. As for the sling plastics I have a new set somewhere also a new set of cannon wiring harness.

I sold a Sttng in similar condition last year,with laser cannons,custom painted Borg ship,and ColorDMD for 4800.00. No LEDs though.

4800 is giving it away. I don't 6k is a bad price for a nice example, especially in Canada with the dollar so unfavorable

Did someone ever deal with Nitro Amusements?They have Butterfly and Dragon Interflip and I would be interested

I bought a Gorgar from Nitro. The game was OK but from a retail store, I'd expect more.
My Gorgar had lock bar holes on each side of the coin door. They should have been filled in and touched up.. The legs for the game had rust spots on them. The plunger spring was shot. Not sure if other retail stores fix things like warped/raised inserts or not but mine has them which throws the ball off course. Cabinet had some chips that were also not ever attempted to have been touched up. And to top that off, the ball itself was not new and had rough spots on it.
If I ever bought another from them, I'd go over it very carefully in person.

Where were you when I was giving it away then
It still took a couple of months to sell at that price.

Why would anybody remove a colour DMD and put in a regular one?

Yeah I remember that, it wasn't like it flew out the door even though it was a pretty nice machine.

QSS

Still looking for a LOTR or LOTRLE. I do have a Demolition Man and a Bride of Pinbot I would sell or trade.

I kinda thought you were giving it away too. I was shocked it took so long to sell at that price. I guess just bad timing.

Thanks. And price is not firm. That's what I have into it but I seems you never get back what you put in.

The times I tried dealing with them I found them very unresponsive to my questions like they couldn't care less about my business. So I spent my money elsewhere.

Rob

I will probably do the same even if i want this Dragon.BTW i'm looking for Gigi,Slick Chick,Square Head and Majorettes

Sorry I don't really like that game too much. I'm shocked it took so long to sell

Yeah nothing's selling right now or else people want it for nothing. Too many new games coming out I guess

Shit would sell if there was stuff worth buying at a fair price.

Up priced sought after player vancouver.craigslist.ca link

I think Aljo (Claude) still has his Joust, and is near you isn't he? If you are seriously looking for that machine, given how rare it is, you really should look into that, as it's nice and close, and both for that title are very tough.

I'm kinda in the market now for a WOZ I think ( due to passing on a sweet deal before, but at least a friend got it from someone here ).

The new code is just reeling me in. Let me know if anyone is thinking of selling. Still looking for a HH as well, possibly a BH... I guess I'm not as done as I thought I was

i have WOZLE and some other games for sale
Link
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-oeuvre-d-art/laval-rive-nord/3-pinball-machine-a-boule-theme-avion-billard-film/1024599178?src=topAdSearch

It's not likely that you want to pay retail for a hh but they do have one at the pinballexchange in Hamilton. Just thought I'd mention it.

The bubble - she be burst. At least on used games. Still there for A list games, but even there just not where it was a couple years ago. Or whatever and i'm an idiot - but something certainly has changed.

Zero offense to Twilight1 - STTNG will sit there for a while at 6. At least if will in Calgary. 2 years ago - you might have had a bidding war.

No offence taken and ya I bought it in the boom. And It's still a awesome game. Won't be sorry if it don't sell may be if it does. But can't get a different game unless I sell one.

because that's the way people like their games?

I hate mods on games myself, so when someone says "oh i got this wicked scoop light and these extra action figures I threw in and this topper" i say... who cares? Non-functional toys mean nothing to me.

I sold my TNG for 4,200 to a friend in Edmonton. I sold my DMD and painted ship to pingod because the guy I sold TNG to didn't care 1 bit about the parts and wouldn't pay for them. I didn't mind and understood he wanted it original.

That's interesting, that's the same price I sold my TNG to pingod for. He bought your mods and put them on and played the game for a few months then he sold the game with mods for about what he paid for everything. Seams like a fair deal for all involved.

QSS

Yes worked out well all around
Plus I added laser cannons,and a few other things.

Off the market for a while,I will let you know when I put it back up.

Freshly shopped out,CC playfield,new complete LEDs.
New G Ramp,new plastics,new pop bumper assemblies.
NOS snake plastic,new flipper coils and rebuild flippers.
New sheet of invisaglass.
Really nice condition.
Playfield looks like glass.
7500.00 CAN

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This GNR is about the nicest you'll see. The playfield has been completely restored and everything looks /plays amazing!

That makes sence that you took it out and sold it separate because he was not willing to pay the extra it is worth money.If he didn't want the DMD he could have took it out and sold it for 475.00$ and that's not fair to you.I agree that lot of mods don't add much value ,LEDs and such.I think having a colour DMD adds a little value to your game and you agree because you wanted more money for it,like having a clear coated playfield or something like that.He wasn't interested in those mods and didn't want to pay so you took them off which makes sense to me.Some people like the colour DMD and some people don't but clearly there is a market for it because they are still in business and they are being made for new games all the time like for LOTR.

Price Drop - Orbitor 1 - $1600 CDN
Delivery available to GTA on Saturday Nov. 8 for $100.

Hey - if you're in no rush - leave it at that price. I'm not gonna price police anyone - just making general observations that the market has slowed. Hope you sell it regardless.