The original was free, so you still had the money to spend on a different game? Seems to me, the money went to the original instead. Then you're spending MORE on a new game

Not quite consistently. From a MMR blog post on August 13:

Stern is working with Chicago Gaming on a daily basis finalizing the assembly processes, as well as receiving parts for the game. Final preparations for the build are happening now, and we expect the line to be starting up during the last couple of weeks in Sept.

http://www.planetarypinball.com/medieval-madness-remake-status-aug-13-2014/

Things change. Things slip. Whatever. But don't act like you've always said it would hit the line in October.

I have been keeping up with the updates. I'm just throwing a flag on what Rick said about being consistent, because it's directly not. The schedule is sliding. Big deal. Just don't claim otherwise.

From the PPS forum, which I just found thanks to this guy:

Which is here: http://www.planetarypinball.com/forum/

[REDACTED]

Rick PM'd me. Apparently repeating crap from the PPS forum is some kind of no-no. So, go there to read it I guess. Whee!

It's a new thing. Seems very "I'll take my ball and go home". Rick can't control pinside, so he set up his own forum?

This answer can be found over here: http://www.planetarypinball.com/forum/index.php/topic,23.0.html

Since reposting would be bad.

Yeah. Wait. What? Whatever.

But PPS already had the blog for that. It's not as if posting news requires a forum.

There are updates. You just have to go sign up on the PPS forum.

There's more to the forum PPS set up than just MMR updates. Seems they're going to start producing more parts themselves and are using the forum for news & such about that stuff, as well as setting up sections for each vendor making parts under agreements with PPS.

I still don't get the vegas style "what's posted at PPS should stay at PPS" angle, but whatever.

They're not going to run both buildings at once. According to that casual interview unigroove posted over on pinballmagazine they're going to move to the new building over a 10 day span in February.

Fixed

Nope. They're not running on the line (test building a few, sure - not fully running), and won't be until the UL is finished and the transformers get made/delivered in quantity - which has a few weeks lead time once UL is fully done.

Some issue may have been fixed, but as of last weeks update the UL people wanted to cut a few open and do some more thorough inspection, so they don't have a green flag to mass produce them yet in case something else changes.

Edit: Double checked, the slicing comment was 2 weeks ago's update - not last week. But last week still mentioned waiting on final approval for the go ahead from UL.

It probably more likely means expo just ended and everybody skipped the weekly meeting.

Pinball in stereo seems like a weird idea, unless you're using headphones I guess. But 2 small speakers a foot and a half apart, four feet from the player? No point there.

Another angle, also from FB.

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May still just be proto runs through the line to get things setup & worked out. Heck, it could be the same complete proto they had at the Stern tour.

Or that's where they had shoved the prototype and an empty cab to get them out of the way and they didn't really think about what's in the background other than "the shop".

If UL requires something to change, they'd have to re-do built games. Ain't nobody got time for that.

The UL people are testing the whole electrical system, not just the transformer. Shorting things out all over to see how it reacts, etc.

Rick said a while ago that there would just be a week or two lead time to get the transformer production rolling and supplying the line.

They'll be running on the 'second' line they were setting up at the current facility when the expo tour went through. They're not going to wait until after February to start building them.

It's at least 50% guys who aren't ever going to run a quarter through it and just want to complain.

I'm not sure how you get from "the team that works on the PPS store site updated it" to "there must be great MMR news!"

No, you're not getting coin mechs. They can be installed and will work.

More like +/++++

It's not a math equation, it's just either/or.

You're so cute. All warm and fuzzy.

+/-

I wonder if CGC had the playfield press jig for making all the dimples. That's the kind of thing that could be slowing things down, if they didn't.

Nope. I'm not expecting CGC to even start on trying that until after the game is out the door.

At this point, all Rick knows is what CGC tells him, so if Doug isn't giving detail, Rick doesn't have any to give. I'm not sure how Doug worked out this deal that he wouldn't have to answer to the angry mobs and Rick would take all the heat, but it's a pretty sweet deal for him.

Too much idle time + impatience.

Still just waiting for the update that says "It's on the line!" all this other static and conspiracies about ridiculous junk is tiring.

This should go over well.

It means when there's a lot going on the v-sync on the LCD isn't matched with the rendering speed and you can see disjointed lines in the display as it draws sometimes.

This was my general summary experience from Expo. I purposefully watched the display to see if I could catch it as people had mentioned it, and I could, when spectating. Easily. But playing the game I didn't care a whip.

You smile with other parts of your body on occasion?

But everybody is talking about a v-sync issue and Rick's talking about image transitions - those aren't the same thing.

The rest of that message you didn't quote says that Production should start on Monday the 19th, if all goes as expected.

Rick's not making these. He's just the license holder. Doug at CGC is the point man on actually getting them made.

You can't talk specific hotheads down off the ledge with public posts as easily.

The official licensed product sticker (which is a hologram).

Somebody in Chicago should take Doug out to celebrate the start of production on MM and get him drunk enough to spill the beans on game #2

This is the problem.

I know several people that have both AFM and MM in the same collection. Different enough for me.

When announced, they mentioned that the display is an LCD and that a 'colordmd style' version of the display would be a software upgrade at some point. That's what he's talking about.

It is. But the decals do not extend under the tape (according to info provided so far), so removal is less dangerous.

I'm doing pretty well against most of these numbers 1174. Black.

The whole thing is CGC's baby. Rick is the licensor/overseer.

When will people realize Rick doesn't have these answers, he just provides the licensing to CGC?

Over on planetary's forum Rick mentioned that going forward the slings will be installed using a physical jig to make sure they line up just right and won't hit the playfield.

There wasn't an in-dept expose about the situation and it's solution. Are the marks wrong? Maybe. Are the screws/holes just not tight enough tolerance to ensure lack of impact? Maybe. No idea.

Do you really want Rick to pester CGC for another estimate, which has just as much chance of being wrong as the last one? Or would you rather just find reassurance in the fact that manufacturing is rolling again, and they'll get made and delivered whenever they do?

Why not just be happy that it actually got done? Happy for those that are going to get one? This drives right back to Robin wanting pinside to be a friendlier place. Why continually pound on the negative of something? Yeah, it took longer than they originally expected it to. Sure, it may be longer than you personally think is reasonable. But does it do any good to keep braying about it?

I think that's the angle playing tricks on you. Look at the length of the line in the crest on the left & right sides of the button. Still just as off as it was.