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Any update on MMr production?

By joemamma

9 years ago


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#1601 9 years ago
 
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Taxman

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I have an original MM. It came with coin mechs and was thousands of dollars cheaper. I never used them, but I sleep well at night knowing they are there.

Now lets move onto other things.

The original MM comes with lock-down bar hasps installed. I didn't see this on the list of things MMr has different, so are they installed or is this another omission worthy of 20 threads and thousands of posts?

Yes, this post is dripping with sarcasm. I'm not sure who is worse. People who can't afford an MMr and want to piddle on other's post-toasties or those who can afford an $8K toy and feel they didn't get enough butt kissing from the concierge.

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#1602 9 years ago
 
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TaylorVA

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Quoted from dkazz1:

It's an upgrade from watching the grass grow or paint dry.........

Apples and oranges. You can watch paint dry, grass growing on the other hand.....

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#1603 9 years ago
 
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lordloss

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Quoted from Taxman:

I have an original MM. It came with coin mechs and was thousands of dollars cheaper. I never used them, but I sleep well at night knowing they are there.
Now lets move onto other things.
The original MM comes with lock-down bar hasps installed. I didn't see this on the list of things MMr has different, so are they installed or is this another omission worthy of 20 threads and thousands of posts?
Yes, this post is dripping with sarcasm. I'm not sure who is worse. People who can't afford an MMr and want to piddle on other's post-toasties or those who can afford an $8K toy and feel they didn't get enough butt kissing from the concierge.

I think its fun to argue because coin mechs literally costs less than $10 and rick refuses to budge on giving them out for free.

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#1604 9 years ago
 
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jalpert

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You're math is pretty jacked. It's $10 for 1,000 people. So, last time I checked, that's $10,000 not $10.

If $10,000 isn't a big deal to you consider yourself lucky.

Quoted from lordloss:

I think its fun to argue because coin mechs literally costs less than $10 and rick refuses to budge on giving them out for free.

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#1605 9 years ago
 
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lordloss

Blocked

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Quoted from jalpert:

You're math is pretty jacked. It's $10 for 1,000 people. So, last time I checked, that's $10,000 not $10.
If $10,000 isn't a big deal to you consider yourself lucky.

$8000 x 1000 MAKES THAT NUMBER SEEM REALLY SMALL

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#1606 9 years ago
 
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Kiwipinhead

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Quoted from pezpunk:

it's a freaking $10 coin mech, suck it up.

Yer PPS

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#1607 9 years ago
 
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Pimp77

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Jesus...all these posts here made me think something actually happened. Nope. Just sad bickering.

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#1608 9 years ago
 
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jalpert

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Something DID happen. Did you hear? No coin mechs.

Quoted from Pimp77:

Jesus...all these posts here made me think something actually happened. Nope. Just sad bickering.

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#1609 9 years ago
 
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lordloss

Blocked

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Quoted from jalpert:

Something DID happen. Did you hear? No coin mechs.

Rick won't ever live this down, it'll be interesting to see how he handles this for pin #2

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#1610 9 years ago
 
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Whysnow

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Quoted from lordloss:

Rick won't ever live this down, it'll be interesting to see how he handles this for pin #2

$8050 for the real LE with coin mechs?

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#1611 9 years ago
 
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cooked71

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Of the 1000 (+/-) MMr's that will be sold how many will be on location using coin mechs? Maybe 100 max. So why put coin mechs in the other 900 that will never be used outside someones game room???? It makes absolutely no sense.

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#1612 9 years ago
 
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vex

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Quoted from cooked71:

So why put coin mechs in the other 900 that will never be used outside someones game room???? It makes absolutely no sense.

i can give you 8000 reasons why it might bother some customers.

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#1613 9 years ago
 
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o-din

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Post last edited 8 years ago.

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#1614 9 years ago
 
MCC

cooked71

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Quoted from o-din:

It does if you want your guests to pay to play.

If you're that cheap then.....

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#1615 9 years ago
 
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cooked71

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AU Sydney

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I have personally never purchased a machine....new or old....that has coin mechs installed.

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#1616 9 years ago
 
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RavellevaR

Inactive member

9y 22,900 125

I love how people are throwing these crazy coin mech prices around, when PPS made it clear that they are offering them for $7.00 each... Even if you assumed it was going to come with 2 ($14) you are still getting 99.825% of the value you thought you were getting for your $8000... If $14 means that much to you, you really have no business spending $8000 on a luxury good in the first place... Move on already

http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=PP&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPS-09-8803

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#1617 9 years ago
 
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RobT

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Quoted from o-din:

And noone want's an incomplete pinball machine.

I see what you did there.

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#1618 9 years ago
 
MCC

cooked71

Pinside member

AU Sydney

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Quoted from vex:

i can give you 8000 reasons why it might bother some customers.

If I buy a NIB from the Stern distributor in Australia, it comes with NO coin mech, whether its a $7200 Pro or a $10500 LE. Never heard any complaints. Most operators have their own stock of mechs that they just swap in or out as they buy/sell.

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#1619 9 years ago
 
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o-din

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Post last edited 8 years ago.

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#1620 9 years ago
 
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jalpert

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You forgot to account for the percentage of games going out in the wild that will be on token play and have their mechs replaced anyway. Also, you forgot to account for all the operators that change out the standard mechs for higher quality ones, or for any other reason which is just about all of them.

It could very well be 20 people who actually care. The only person I see actually using the mechs are home owners who want to run quarters through their games to make it feel more arcade-y. I know those guys exist, but there can't be more than a handful of them.

Quoted from cooked71:

Of the 1000 (+/-) MMr's that will be sold how many will be on location using coin mechs? Maybe 100 max. So why put coin mechs in the other 900 that will never be used outside someones game room???? It makes absolutely no sense.

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#1621 9 years ago
 
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Ed209

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You guys could all save yourselves a bunch of time by just using copy/paste.

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#1622 9 years ago
 
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vex

Pinside member

CA New Westminster, BC

14y 74,800 1,977 4 8

Quoted from cooked71:

If I buy a NIB from the Stern distributor in Australia, it comes with NO coin mech, whether its a $7200 Pro or a $10500 LE. Never heard any complaints

welcome to america.

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#1623 9 years ago
 
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epthegeek

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Quoted from jalpert:

It could very well be 20 people who actually care. The only person I see actually using the mechs are home owners who want to run quarters through their games to make it feel more arcade-y. I know those guys exist, but there can't be more than a handful of them.

It's at least 50% guys who aren't ever going to run a quarter through it and just want to complain.

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#1624 9 years ago
 
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LTG

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Quoted from Ed209:

You guys could all save yourselves a bunch of time by just using copy/paste.

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#1625 9 years ago
 
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Razorbak86

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Wow, mirror paste! Lloyd's whipping out the big guns!

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#1626 9 years ago
 
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o-din

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Post last edited 8 years ago.

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#1627 9 years ago
 
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labnip

Inactive member

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The MMR is shipping without playfield glass.
You don't need it to play.
If it's loud, just turn up the sound.
Since so few will ever be in the wild, you don't need glass for in the home use.
If you're an operator, you probably already have sheets of glass laying around, just put 1 in.
This reduces broken glass issues, makes it easier to access, clean & mod your game.
Since so many people may want an Invisiglass quality glass, why put a standard quality sheet of glass in the game, just to have it removed and be tossed/wasted.
And don't forget how expensive it is for PPS to put playfield glass in 1000 machines.
If you really want glass just buy a sheet on your own, based on the quality of glass you prefer.
This is a fully functioning MMR.

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#1628 9 years ago
 
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MrBally

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12y 141K 13,935 22 1

Why doesn't Rick /Chicago Gaming just install the blank doors like CG did with Vacation America?

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#1629 9 years ago
 
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HOOKED

Hooked on Pinball

US Cherryville, NC

20y 109K 4,808 16 18

Quoted from Pimp77:

Jesus...all these posts here made me think something actually happened. Nope. Just sad bickering.

yep me too - one click of a mouse wasted.

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#1630 9 years ago
 
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indypinhead

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12y 119K 6,376

Quoted from MrBally:

Why doesn't Rick /Chicago Gaming just install the blank doors like CG did with Vacation America?

Don't give him any ideas.

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#1631 9 years ago
 
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northvibe

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Quoted from HOOKED:

yep me too - one click of a mouse wasted.

Actually a couple...had to click in and then back out Ugh....

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#1632 9 years ago
 
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Zitt

Pinball-Mods.com

US Austin, TX

11y 112K 7,873 15 10

It's pretty obvious to me that MMr is a mid-2015 product; best case.
Enjoy your wait guys.

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#1633 9 years ago
 
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pezpunk

iScored

US Bristow, VA

11y 103K 7,008 4 20

Quoted from Zitt:

It's pretty obvious to me that MMr is a mid-2015 product; best case.
Enjoy your wait guys.

Uhhhhhh based on what? UL is done and production is starting in about 2 weeks.

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#1634 9 years ago
 
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jalpert

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Based on his ability to troll a thread.

Quoted from pezpunk:

Uhhhhhh based on what? UL is done and production is starting in about 2 weeks.

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#1635 9 years ago
 
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o-din

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Post last edited 8 years ago.

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#1636 9 years ago
 
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Rarehero

Pinside member

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Quoted from MrBally:

Why doesn't Rick /Chicago Gaming just install the blank doors like CG did with Vacation America?

Really? So - we're still doing this? More willful ignorance from people who know what coin-mechs are and refuse to have an intellectually honest discussion about them.

VA is a home-only game. Hence, no coin SLOTS on the door...no ability to route the machine.

MMr is a coin-op game and comes with a standard Happ coin door that is easily fitted with mechs of your preference & region's currency. If it had a blank door, then anyone who wanted to operate the game would have to install an entirely different coin door.

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#1637 9 years ago
 
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jalpert

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If I needed coin mechs, I'd spend the $14 like everyone else. And I don't, so I won't.

Quoted from o-din:

Rick should at least give pezpunk and jalpert free coin mechs.

Feeding time!

Quoted from Rarehero:

Really? So - we're still doing this?

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#1638 9 years ago
 
ZIT

Zitt

Pinball-Mods.com

US Austin, TX

11y 112K 7,873 15 10

Quoted from pezpunk:

Uhhhhhh based on what? UL is done and production is starting in about 2 weeks.

He's been saying a few weeks since April 2014.
Trolling... yeah I guess; but the reality is I won't be surprised if we don't see production shipments until mid-2014.

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#1639 9 years ago
 
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jkdblaze

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Quoted from Zitt:

Trolling... yeah I guess; but the reality is I won't be surprised if we don't see production shipments until mid-2014.

Which is what Rick has been stating all along.

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#1640 9 years ago
 
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o-din

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Post last edited 8 years ago.

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#1641 9 years ago
 
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pezpunk

iScored

US Bristow, VA

11y 103K 7,008 4 20

Quoted from o-din:

Rick should at least give pezpunk and jalpert free coin mechs.

i think i'd take them out. just an unnecessary part.

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#1642 9 years ago
 
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o-din

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Post last edited 8 years ago.

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#1643 9 years ago
 
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pinstor12

Inactive member

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Quoted from labnip:

The MMR is shipping without playfield glass.
You don't need it to play.
If it's loud, just turn up the sound.
Since so few will ever be in the wild, you don't need glass for in the home use.
If you're an operator, you probably already have sheets of glass laying around, just put 1 in.
This reduces broken glass issues, makes it easier to access, clean & mod your game.
Since so many people may want an Invisiglass quality glass, why put a standard quality sheet of glass in the game, just to have it removed and be tossed/wasted.
And don't forget how expensive it is for PPS to put playfield glass in 1000 machines.
If you really want glass just buy a sheet on your own, based on the quality of glass you prefer.
This is a fully functioning MMR.

CLASSIC

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#1644 9 years ago
 
EDH

TigerLaw

Pinside Moderator

US Jennings, LA

14y 224K 20,100 24 240

It has been awhile since I have opened this thread. I'm a bit surprised we are still going over the coin mech issue.

So, the games are going to be manufactured starting in two weeks? Shipping starting in January?

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#1645 9 years ago
 
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dluth

Pinside member

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The term 'coin mech' is almost becoming as annoying as 'Lionman'

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#1646 9 years ago
 
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TigerLaw

Pinside Moderator

US Jennings, LA

14y 224K 20,100 24 240

Quoted from dluth:

The term 'coin mech' is almost becoming as annoying as 'Lionman'

Speaking of threads I haven't visited in awhile...

At this point, this coin mech issue has been a known deal for awhile...or at least it seems that way. Has anyone with money actually in the game right now asked to be let out due the coin mech issue and been told no? I could see someone in that position being massively unhappy, but everyone else?

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#1647 9 years ago
 
JLM

jlm33

Pinside member

FR Villejuif

11y 152K 5,892 7 169

Quoted from TigerLaw:

It has been awhile since I have opened this thread. I'm a bit surprised we are still going over the coin mech issue.

Well, it's only pinside...

Is there a locked MMr thread with updates only, as for Predator or other games? I would definitively read it.

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#1648 9 years ago
 
EDH

TigerLaw

Pinside Moderator

US Jennings, LA

14y 224K 20,100 24 240

Quoted from jlm33:

Well, it's only pinside...
Is there a locked MMr thread with updates only, as for Predator or other games? I would definitively read it.

I'll check. I believe there is. There is a fan thread, members only, where zero negativity about the game is allowed. I'm surprised Rick does not just use that thread for updates when he comes here.

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#1649 9 years ago
 
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jrawlinson_2000

Pinside member

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Quoted from cooked71:

Of the 1000 (+/-) MMr's that will be sold how many will be on location using coin mechs? Maybe 100 max. So why put coin mechs in the other 900 that will never be used outside someones game room???? It makes absolutely no sense.

Also out of those 100 (+/-) how many will stay in the USA?

I got coin mechs for my WOZ, about much use as a chocolate tea pot to me!

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#1650 9 years ago
 
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mattypants

Inactive member

US Barnstable, MA

9y 18,900 14 1

Quoted from pinstor12:

labnip said:
The MMR is shipping without playfield glass.
You don't need it to play.
If it's loud, just turn up the sound.
Since so few will ever be in the wild, you don't need glass for in the home use.
If you're an operator, you probably already have sheets of glass laying around, just put 1 in.
This reduces broken glass issues, makes it easier to access, clean & mod your game.
Since so many people may want an Invisiglass quality glass, why put a standard quality sheet of glass in the game, just to have it removed and be tossed/wasted.
And don't forget how expensive it is for PPS to put playfield glass in 1000 machines.
If you really want glass just buy a sheet on your own, based on the quality of glass you prefer.
This is a fully functioning MMR.

CLASSIC

While I can take or leave the coin mechs, this is certainly a compelling argument.

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