Howzit guys, i got my first pinball machine. cftbl it has a few issues. Any repair guys coming to Hawaii anytime soon? I have a proposition if so, win/win. email me. [email protected]. thanks
or if you know of a repair guy in hawaii please let me know.
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Quoted from Kahanaohana:im on kauai, but i have a vacation rental guest house here. maybe i can pay for your interisland flight and you can stay for free, in exchange do some maintenance to my machine...
Sorry. But to clarify.. Is the machine on Kauai or the big island of Hawaii? If the big isle, Kona or Hilo side?
www.vrbo.com/248607 I'll probably have it fixed by then but email me, ill hook you up, you guys have helped me a lot with advice. we'll go kayak fish for ono's.
fell free to chime in:
problem#1 slide hole isnt recognizing ball, so it sits there for 15 seconds and machine does ball locate and kicks it out. Opto seems to be good.
problem #2 During game at any time the machine will shut down completely, no power. It seems to do this sometimes when I hit both flippers, but not always, sometimes it just does it. (maybe related, when I do Test T.10 and hit enter, the whole machine powers off the same way)
There's a guy named Troy that lives in Hawaii and is a great Pin Tech. He volunteers at the Pinball Hall of Fame for a month or 2 every summer so I'm not sure if he is home or stateside.
Quoted from Kahanaohana:problem#1 slide hole isnt recognizing ball, so it sits there for 15 seconds and machine does ball locate and kicks it out. Opto seems to be good.
this still sounds like an opto problem to me. if the ball isn't being kicked out automatically, then the opto isn't recognizing that the ball is sitting there. the ball search is merely firing off all of the coils in an attempt to "find" the ball.
here's a checklist that you can run through for your optos:
- clean the opto LED's with alcohol (dirty LEDs can interfere with being able to detect that the "light path" has been broken
- check to ensure that the wires leading to the opto's have a good connection (test with continuity on a multi-meter).
- check to ensure that you're receiving 12v to the opto boards (test with multi-meter)
to test the opto's in switch test mode:
- take a digital camera or cell phone camera and point it towards the emitter half of the opto (clear colored LED) and see if the emitters are glowing like the sun through the camera display. If they aren't, your emitter isn't working
if the emitter isn't working, you can still check the receiver side. take a regular flashlight and shine it toward the receiver of the opto (black colored LED) and then block the light and see if the switch works. if the switch works using the flashlight beam, your receiver opto is ok, otherwise it's not working.
I see light coming out of both optos I looked at (the one that kicks ball out immediately and the one that takes 15 seconds) so without and fix it equipment, I unscrewed both optos and swapped them. The problem remained, the same hole will not kick out the ball, and the good hole fires off. Does this mean both optos are good?
If you haven't looked at pinwiki there are some good tips there and look at section 8 for your problem #2 http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC
Quoted from Kahanaohana:I see light coming out of both optos I looked at
There is problem number one. One is a transmitter and one is a receiver. So both sides don't put out light. And you can't swap them.
Unlike new Stern games where the optos both glow red and are interchangeable.
LTG : )™
Sorry i wasnt clear, when i say swapped, i swapped both receiver and transmitter with receiver and transmitter of a working kick out hole, meaning I unplugged one whole working unit (its looked like a "Y" with white housing one side and black housing on other. So now the hole that wasnt kicking out has a different trans/receiver in it and it still didnt register. thoughts?
Here's the only problem with a repair guy coming out there: If he determines you need parts, you'll have to order them. By the time the parts get there, the guy may be off island already. This is one of the things I don't like about Kauai. Although I have a timeshare there (at the Pono Kai by your house!), I always think how tough it is to get service or parts just like what you're going through.
I think you're doing the right thing by trying to troubleshoot it yourself. Don't give up. If this had happened while I was there last week, I'd be over in an instant. (I consider the people on that island ohana!). Wish I could help more from here, but I'm not familiar with that machine. Don't give up! 
Just a thought: Maybe a video of the symptoms and what you're seeing would help people to help you...next best thing to us actually being there! (Or maybe I'm just an idiot...)
Quoted from Kahanaohana:thoughts?
Measure voltage to them on each side, see if it matches others in your game.
And optos are part of your switch matrix, a broken wire on a switch before it kills switches after it, opto or micro mini or stand up.
LTG : )™
Quoted from shakenbake:There's a guy named Troy that lives in Hawaii and is a great Pin Tech. He volunteers at the Pinball Hall of Fame for a month or 2 every summer so I'm not sure if he is home or stateside.
Troy sold his Hawaii property and moved back to Michigan just this month.
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