Lol Dav8515 really did get you going didn't he? He was and is willing to be a fan of Stern. He has bought NIB machines, used machines and williams machines. He has no money in this game. He doesn't fix them, profit off of them, operate them or anything. He's just your average joe sharing an opinion as a real customer. Just a guy who plays in a league and has had a few machines. Plays on location as well. Isn't that the dream we all have for pinball? To go reminisce about playing in an arcade or a hidden game in a movie theatre and drop quarters like you did years ago? Then one day you grow up and get your own machine brand new. A dream come true. His opinion is that missing link that (in his honest opinion) JJP is trying to cater to. The regular guy that in the end is what pinball relies on. The kids he shows pinball to and the next generation if pinball can deliver. The way he feels JJP is trying to. There's too many people on here that have skin in the game. Very few people on here like that from what I've seen. His opinion shouldn't make anyone upset. It's the valuable overlooked opinion that allowed JJP to get all that money from a few words to start the factory. How in the world did he pull that off? Successful or not in the end he feels treated better by JJP. Especially when He touches WOZ a few weeks after an X-men NIB. Then hears about a new game before the kinks are worked out on his. Now that is frustrating.

To shut down an opinion like a protestor saying "Shame on you for not agreeing with me" does not contribute to the conversation. If you have a different opinion then share it.

Now you offer your opinion and/or why you might disagree. That's exactly what should have been posted before. I was actually over there playing the xm pro yesterday. The game is growing on me and is really isn't a bad game. The lack of pop bumper caps is a matter of opinion so I won't go there. I do think that plastic apron is one major issue everyone can agree with. The overpowered magnets are another story. For example with tron pro, that chaos might fit with the game. Then transformers, (I haven't plated ACDC) and then xm. They all have that same feel. That plastic like out of control feeling where the wolverine magnet throws the ball over the outlane and then into the apron and then over the back of the flipper happens wayyy to often and It makes me feel that every game has more "chance" to it. That's my main issue. I do agree with different teams working in different ways code updates are not the main issue. The Le's and how they are different are always going to have different opinions. The pros however just feel cheap and out of control imho.