The Pinball Streaming Thread! - list of channels, updates, how-to-stream, etc.


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#1 2 years ago

Synopsis: Pinball live streaming is picking up in pace and it only looks like it will be growing further from here. As such, this thread will serve as a central hub for live pinball streaming. Want to know who's out there, or do you want to know how to build a streaming setup for yourself? If so, then this thread is for you.

New to viewing streams? - The most common place to find pinball live streaming is via Twitch (http://www.twitch.tv). On Twitch, hosts can stream their pinball gameplay to a live audience, and the audience can interact with the streamers/hosts via chat.

Do you want to stream your machines? - If you would like to learn how to broadcast over Twitch with your own pinball machines, the Buffalo Pinball guys have created a great tutorial for getting started: http://howdoipinball.com/2015/08/30/how-to-live-stream-real-pinball-on-twitch-technical-basics/

To pinball broadcasters - Leave a reply with your channel information and I can have it updated in this main post. Also, feel free to bump the thread if you are going live at any given time. It should also be noted that LethalFrag on Twitch has created a "Pinball Wizards" team. This acts as a central hub that hosts most of the regular Twitch pinball streamers. Link: http://www.twitch.tv/team/pinballwizards.

The List:
(In alphabetical order)

Akmpinball - http://www.twitch.tv/akmpinball/
- Streams technical and casual play on a handful of home machines, typically on Friday or Saturday nights. Will occasionally stream during the week on random occasions as well.

Alchy999 - http://www.twitch.tv/alchy999/
- Great play on real pinball machines from what I can tell. No other info present, but there are past broadcasts/highlights to catch.

Buffalo Pinball - http://www.twitch.tv/buffalopinball/
- Home of the Buffalo Pinball League. Streams on a weekly basis, Thursdays in particular. A mixture of casual, competitive/tournament play, and live tutorials/guides.

CaptainBZarre - http://www.twitch.tv/captainbzarre
- Digital pinball only, primarily The Pinball Arcade and Zen Pinball.

Dave's Main Event (Arcade & Pinball) - http://www.twitch.tv/davidbatman1980
- Pinball and arcade game streams located in the Pacific Northwest. Has lots of games.

Dead Flip - http://www.twitch.tv/dead_flip/
- Streams during the week in their warehouse/office space in the Chicago area. Frequently streams new Stern machines, as well as actual location machines and even goes live from the Stern factory.

Demented Warlock - http://www.twitch.tv/demented_warlok
- Streams pinball machines occasionally. Also mixes it up with various videogames, so it's not all pinball.

FarSight Studios - http://www.twitch.tv/farsight_studios/
- "The Pinball Arcade" developers. They frequently show off tables from TPA.

FlipoutNH - http://www.twitch.tv/flipoutNH
- Located in New Hampshire. Hosts a monthly tournament and game nights in-between.

Free Gold Watch / San Fransisco Pinball Dept - https://www.twitch.tv/fgw_sfpd
- Pinball streaming for charity (sometimes?). No info given on their channel page other than "sfpins.org".

Free State Pinball Association - http://www.twitch.tv/fspapinball/
- Occasionally streams their Volleyball House League that meets on Wednesday nights in Elkridge, MD. Sometimes streams their Town Hall League in College Park, MD on Thursdays. Hasn't streamed in a while, but they have some saved highlights from prior months that can be watched.

Fz_berz - http://www.twitch.tv/fz_berz
- Casual real pinball streams.

GA Pinball - http://www.twitch.tv/gapinball/
- Georgia Pinball Organization. Streams events and casual play on a weekly basis.

Inland Empire Pinball Association - http://www.twitch.tv/iepinball/
- Streaming pinball tournaments in CA (Pinball at the Lake, It Never Drains in Southern California, etc).

Jaded - http://www.twitch.tv/jaded/
- Another combo stream. Lots of videogames, but streams pinball machines too.

Lethalfrag - http://www.twitch.tv/lethalfrag/
- Streams mostly videogames, but also fits in pinball machine play at least once a week, often times more. Runs the "Pinball Wizards" team on Twitch.

Mcsirtuna - http://www.twitch.tv/mcsirtuna
- Pinball machine play, typically on Saturdays from 8PM - 10PM EST.

Me_etc - http://www.twitch.tv/me_etc/profile
- Plays pinball once in a while. Has no info and only one highlight on Alien Poker as of Dec, 2015.

NH Pinball Streams - http://www.twitch.tv/nhpinballstreams/
- Competitive and casual play in the New England area. Appears to stream regularly.

Owlnonymous - http://twitch.tv/owlnonymous
- Streaming pinball machines all the time, both casual play and tournament play, as well as some local (and not local) events.

PAPA Pinball - http://www.twitch.tv/papatvpinball/
- Needs no introduction. Streams their PAPAtv Live show as well as other PAPA Circuit events.

PaulyB18 - http://www.twitch.tv/paulyb18
- Streams pinball machines Wednesdays from 9PM - 11:30PM CST. Schedule changes frequently, so check in often.

Pinball Joe - http://www.twitch.tv/pinballjoe/
- Home of "Pinball Done Quick" (PDQ), speedrunning pinball machines. Also streams for other occasions, and has broadcast from the Stern factory.

Pinballlife - http://www.twitch.tv/pinballlife
- Not to be confused with the store (pinballlife.com). Streams pinball machines regularly.

Pinballwiz45b - http://www.twitch.tv/pinballwiz45b/
- Streams regularly but only covers digital pinball.

QueenCityPinball - http://www.twitch.tv/queencitypinball/
- "Gov" here on Pinside. Streams pinball machines fairly regularly and has a few highlights setup.

River City Flippers - http://www.twitch.tv/rivercityflippers/
- League for Richmond, VA. They haven't streamed yet but say they will be in the near future.

StashKid13 - http://www.twitch.tv/stashkid13/
- Owns and streams several pinball machines. Channel says he might do retro gameplay in the future.

Tablecam - http://www.twitch.tv/tablecam/
- Streams pinball tournaments and events in the DC/MD/VA areas. No consistent stream schedule yet and seems to be MIA at the moment.

TenseSpence - http://www.twitch.tv/tensespence
- Pinball machine gameplay. Owns a Star Trek (Stern) from what I can tell, unsure of what else.

Texas_Pinball - http://www.twitch.tv/texas_pinball/
- Pinball machine gameplay by the guys that bring you the Texas Pinball Festival.

VooVoof - http://www.twitch.tv/voovoof
- Strictly digital pinball. Likes cats. A lot.

Wicked Pissa Pinball - http://www.twitch.tv/wickedpissapinballpit/
- Looks like he streams on his own and has a wide variety of games. Has no Highlights setup, so at the moment the channel seems empty.

Wyrebender - http://www.twitch.tv/wyrebender
- Digital pinball along with other videogames.

#2 2 years ago

That is a wonderful idea. I'd very much like to learn about the software and cameras needed for an IRL stream on Twitch. I'm about to buy a current laptop soon so I could do things like this and play ZWIFT.

#3 2 years ago

I wish twitch streams were saved for viewing afterwards, or is that an option like ustream does if the broadcaster chooses?

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

I wish twitch streams were saved for viewing afterwards, or is that an option like ustream does if the broadcaster chooses?

Yep, it is an option the streamer has to choose. The archived footage is only good for 60 days or so, so the broadcaster has to create "highlights" from the stream in order to make it permanent. One could also use YouTube to upload their stream since the software should save a local copy to the user's computer.

#5 2 years ago
Quoted from akm:

Yep, it is an option the streamer has to choose. The archived footage is only good for 60 days or so, so the broadcaster has to create "highlights" from the stream in order to make it permanent. One could also use YouTube to upload their stream since the software should save a local copy to the user's computer.

Correction-- I think they are only good for two weeks or so. If the broadcaster is a Twitch Turbo subscriber, then I believe it's 60 days.

#6 2 years ago

All right, not a whole lot of feedback. To be fair, I probably should have posted this outside of the pinball gameplay videos sub-forum. Regardless, I went ahead and updated the original post and am making this "the Pinball Streaming thread". You can find a list of Twitch pinball streamers I follow in the main post at the top. If you know of any others or if you are a broadcaster already listed and would like to have me add more information (specific schedule times, game lineups, etc), post a response and I'll get the main post updated.

#7 2 years ago

I've been watching all the pinball streaming on twitch lately. Hoping to have a small set up soon to stream my Genie every once in a while

#8 2 years ago

I'd like to know the software you use to steam with all those multiple cameras Austin. Also the make and model of the cameras.

There's another twitch channel that is decent, "Wicked Pissa Pinball". I believe he is in Buffallo NY. He does have issues with cameras, microphones, and/or software but the guy has a decent collection that he streams.

A side note, that Lethal Frag channel I wouldn't recommend. That guy has his chat locked so only those who pay (him or twitch, I'm not sure) can chat which seems a bit hostile to me.

Your stream as well as Dead_Flip seem to be the most fun. Dead_Flip seems to have a ridiculous following now, last night they hosted the WWF Stern pinball and had about 90 viewers and about 8 live people. According to them Stern themselves loaned them the WWF table which is pretty impressive.

#9 2 years ago

Thanks for including me!

Yeah, only digital pinball here. I'm too young to own a real one

EDIT: LethalFrag's chat is open during pinball nights, so feel free to hop in!

#10 2 years ago

I didn't see this thread until today. I just built a camera rig for testing purposes. I don't have the horsepower or desire to stream right now, but I do plan on making some gameplay videos for some games. I am also looking to use the camera rig to record and maybe broadcast some Magic The Gathering and Warmachine competitions for the game store that I have my pins in. I would also like to eventually use it for our league.

My rig right now uses the following:
-Logitech C920 Webcam (for playfield)
-Logitech C910 Webcam (for DMD)
-Laptop Web Cam (for player cam if needed)
-Blue Snowball Mic
-Powered USB 4 port hub from Amazon
-Custom built 80/20 Aluminum rig (I had the material from another project I tore apart)
-Xsplit software for recording the multiple cams.

Like I said, I don't have the computer horsepower to stream at this time, but maybe someday I will look into it. That is an entirely different beast. This is a pretty low budget setup but the results have been good. As soon as I get a decent video made I will post one up (read me having a decent game that isn't embarrassing)

A similar thread was started on Tilt Forums as well.
http://tiltforums.com/t/twitch-livestream-setups/107

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#11 2 years ago

That's pretty sweet self made tripod Gov.

#12 2 years ago

Thanks. 80/20 is a great material to work with. It is like a giant erector set.

#13 2 years ago

What is 80/20 or more to the point, where did you learn how to build that?

#14 2 years ago

It is also called T-slot aluminum channel. 80/20 is actually a company that makes it and is a brand name, but it is the most widely used term for describing the material.

I learned about it when I was building a high end racing simulator out of it. I have since had to dissolve my simulator in favor for more time and space for pinball. I used the materials from that to design my camera mount.

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#15 2 years ago
Quoted from Ardkore1992:

I'd like to know the software you use to steam with all those multiple cameras Austin. Also the make and model of the cameras.

I use Xsplit Broadcaster edition to do my stream.

For the cameras, I have a Logitech C920 I use for the playfield, and a Logitech C615 I used for the DMD. I switched to a different cam for the DMD as of last week but I don't know the make/model off the top of my head. It does look better than the Logitech C615 and the DMD doesn't flicker like it does with that Logitech cam.

Quoted from Ardkore1992:

There's another twitch channel that is decent, "Wicked Pissa Pinball". I believe he is in Buffallo NY. He does have issues with cameras, microphones, and/or software but the guy has a decent collection that he streams.

Thanks for the recommendation! I just checked him out and what you wrote is pretty much on point. I'll get him added to the list.

Quoted from Ardkore1992:

A side note, that Lethal Frag channel I wouldn't recommend. That guy has his chat locked so only those who pay (him or twitch, I'm not sure) can chat which seems a bit hostile to me.

I can understand his perspective though. When you become popular, you open yourself to constant trolling. Having the chat blocked off from anyone that's not subscribed keeps the chat civil and free from spam and unwanted trolls. It's different with the average pinball channel because generally they are much smaller/niche.

Quoted from Ardkore1992:

Your stream as well as Dead_Flip seem to be the most fun. Dead_Flip seems to have a ridiculous following now, last night they hosted the WWF Stern pinball and had about 90 viewers and about 8 live people. According to them Stern themselves loaned them the WWF table which is pretty impressive.

Thanks man!

I was able to finally check out Dead_Flip live for a few minutes earlier today (normally they stream when I'm sleeping or heading into work) and they were playing the WWE game.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballwiz45b:

Thanks for including me!

No problem!

Quoted from Gov:

I didn't see this thread until today. I just built a camera rig for testing purposes. I don't have the horsepower or desire to stream right now, but I do plan on making some gameplay videos for some games.

That's a wicked setup! I'd love to have a mount like that. Right now I have a cheap stand sitting next to the game I am recording. While it gets the job done and it is mobile, it would be nice to have a rig like you do where the cam is permanent and won't shake when you play rough with the machine.

As far as streaming, it may not require as much horsepower as you think. I picked up a cheap laptop from Wal-Mart with only 4GB RAM and a Pentium-based processor. I was able to stream without any hardware issues. The resolutions had to be knocked down on my cams (800x600 on the main cam, 640X480 on the DMD cam), but it still looks suitable enough. If Xsplit already records fine to your hard drive, streaming isn't going to require any more horsepower than you are using right now.

#17 2 years ago

Thanks.

I will have to look into streaming I guess. I am having a weird issue right now. I have been recording just fine at 1080p with two cams and everything was nice and smooth. This was on my ACDC. Then I moved my rig over to Big Hurt and all of the sudden my framerate has dropped. I checked all of the settings and nothing has changed. I will have to mess around with it some more.

#18 2 years ago

Hm.. I'm not 100% sure why it would drop if nothing hardware-wise has changed. The lighting situation could affect this--the cams tend to pick up more consistent/higher framerates with better lighting scenarios.

#19 2 years ago

That is possible, even with LEDs in big hurt, acdc is a lot brighter. I will try upping the Ambient light tomorrow or record during the day.

I also noticed a big windows update installed this morning.

#20 2 years ago

My channel is at http://www.twitch.tv/captainbzarre. Like pinballwiz45b I focus on Pinball Arcade and Zen Pinball 2.

#21 2 years ago

Ok, with more light it is a bit better, but still not as smooth as I would like it to be. Maybe it is my computer or the hub I am using.

Here is the video I took at night with minimal ambient light.

» YouTube video

And here is the one I took this morning with the windows open. Forgive the glare, it is just a test.

» YouTube video

#22 2 years ago

The 2nd one is definitely better.

#23 2 years ago

Ya, I agree. I guess I need to figure out a lighting setup that will work at night and will not wash out the color of the lights and such.

#24 2 years ago
Quoted from Gov:

Ok, with more light it is a bit better, but still not as smooth as I would like it to be. Maybe it is my computer or the hub I am using.

Hm.. I had issues with the hub I was using. Sometimes the framerate would be smooth, but then out of nowhere it would seriously glitch up. I stopped using the hub and haven't had any issues since.

Quoted from Kineticross:

My channel is at http://www.twitch.tv/captainbzarre. Like pinballwiz45b I focus on Pinball Arcade and Zen Pinball 2.

Cool! When I get a few moments later I'll add it to the list up top.

#25 2 years ago

They way my rig is set I have no choice but to use the hub.

#26 2 years ago
Quoted from Gov:

They way my rig is set I have no choice but to use the hub.

What do you mean? Lack of USB ports, or simply a lack of cable length?

#27 2 years ago

Thanks for the list and for including Buffalo Pinball! Check us out on Thursdays if you haven't. We're working on improving the stream quality all the time.

#28 2 years ago
Quoted from akm:

What do you mean? Lack of USB ports, or simply a lack of cable length?

Cable length, unless I want 3 10ft cables to mess with instead of one.

#29 2 years ago

I did a test stream on TwitchTV tonight and it didn't go too well. I am getting video stutter about every 10 seconds on the Twitch side. My local recording was silky smooth. I am guessing my internet service is probably lacking. I have a 2mbs upload speed, which I would imagine is the problem.

#30 2 years ago

Have a look at your upload speed and see if you're saturating it. You can stream in lower quality, but you have to set that up: if you don't, you get stream stutter.

#31 2 years ago

Can you explain 'saturating' it?

#32 2 years ago
Quoted from Gov:

Can you explain 'saturating' it?

Using all avail capacity

#33 2 years ago

2mbs is what I get from the Internet speed tests for upload.

#34 2 years ago

Are you going wired or wireless? I was using WiFi when I started and was getting huge amounts of dropped frames. It was extremely choppy on the viewers' end. When I went wired I have had zero issues, the speeds are much faster. What does your internet service plan say you should be getting (down/up)?

#35 2 years ago

2mbs is what it is rated at and 18mbs down. I get that consistentlyupon testing. I am running wireless but have a high end wireless card. No way to go wired where my rig is unfortunately, well not unless I run 50ft of cat5 through the house when I need to stream...lol

#36 2 years ago

Ok, I dig some digging are realized I had never installed the actual factory drivers for my wireless lan card, it was using the default windows driers. So, that gave me 5ghz support which is good. Next I lowered the bitrate down to 1200kbps on the stream out of Xsplit and at least the archived version of my video on twitch is buttery smooth. The video quality still looks good as well. I will go ahead and list my twitch stream here. Maybe later tonight I will start streaming if anybody wants to stop by and let me know how it looks. I will post here when I go live.

Thanks for the help and support. Oh, btw, I am streaming Big Hurt, how often can you say you saw somebody do that?! :)

twitch.tv/queencitypinball

#37 2 years ago

2MB up max.. Hmm.. That's probably going to be rough, especially over Wi-Fi. You want at least 5 - 10 to be issue-free. Either way, if it's working well for you now, then consider yourself lucky! When I was transmitting at 2mbs up, I basically couldn't stream. It was a virtual slideshow for my viewers.

Post here if you go live later tonight. I'm going to be at work all night so I can pop in and see how it's going.

#38 2 years ago
Quoted from KevInBuffalo:

Thanks for the list and for including Buffalo Pinball! Check us out on Thursdays if you haven't. We're working on improving the stream quality all the time.

No problem! I added that you guys stream on Thursdays. I haven't been able to tune in live myself (I am usually busy Thursdays), but I have been tuning in to the past broadcasts.

#39 2 years ago

One more thing for you to add for me and Pinballwiz45b: Every month we alternate streaming after FarSight. They'll probably host me in their channel when they stream near the end of this month.

#40 2 years ago
Quoted from akm:

2MB up max.. Hmm.. That's probably going to be rough, especially over Wi-Fi. You want at least 5 - 10 to be issue-free. Either way, if it's working well for you now, then consider yourself lucky! When I was transmitting at 2mbs up, I basically couldn't stream. It was a virtual slideshow for my viewers.
Post here if you go live later tonight. I'm going to be at work all night so I can pop in and see how it's going.

It very well may not work, but it is worth a shot.

#41 2 years ago
Quoted from Kineticross:

One more thing for you to add for me and Pinballwiz45b: Every month we alternate streaming after FarSight. They'll probably host me in their channel when they stream near the end of this month.

Done.

Quoted from Gov:

It very well may not work, but it is worth a shot.

Absolutely!

#42 2 years ago

I'm considering starting broadcasts again, but not sure when. Still have a whole bunch of stuff to do.

#43 2 years ago

going live now, lets see if this is a trainwreck.

#44 2 years ago

Well, just finished up with my first stream and it went really well. From what the viewers were telling me the video quality was very good and everything worked. I ended up streaming for 2.5hrs with zero dropped frames as well using Xsplit.

I will be streaming again on Tuesday hopefully. The plan is to have 1 or 2 more local players come over as well. Should be fun. Check it out if you can.

Thanks to AKM for showing up and answering questions and hanging out.

#45 2 years ago

No problem! Looks like you got to the thread before I did. To those that missed it, here's his stream: http://www.twitch.tv/queencitypinball/b/634572553

#46 2 years ago

Streaming again right now for the heck of it. Come hang if you want

twitch.tv/queencitypinball

Big Hurt!

#47 2 years ago

Right on! I'm there.

#48 2 years ago

Caught a bit of this tonight, looked good

#49 2 years ago

Some camcorders say they will do 60 fps instead of the 30 fps that the Logitech webcams do. For watching a tournament live in person I would think that might be preferable. For streaming the 30fps would probably be best to save bandwidth.

Anyone have any experience comparing and contrasting pinball on 30 and 60 fps?

#50 2 years ago

Doing some pre-PAPA last-minute streaming on Demolition Man (that is, unless I stream tomorrow). Should be going for the next 90 minutes. http://www.twitch.tv/akmpinball

Quoted from John_I:

Some camcorders say they will do 60 fps instead of the 30 fps that the Logitech webcams do. For watching a tournament live in person I would think that might be preferable. For streaming the 30fps would probably be best to save bandwidth.
Anyone have any experience comparing and contrasting pinball on 30 and 60 fps?

Yeah, 60fps would be ideal, although I'm not sure if Twitch actually supports streaming at that rate (it wasn't until recently that YouTube started allowing it). I'll have to look into it though.

As far as comparing between 30/60fps, there's no doubt 60 is going to be much smoother, especially in situations where the ball has to travel quickly. Those guys with better rigs than I should have no problems streaming at 60fps if Twitch allows it.

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