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Any Coronavirus concerns for TPF & MGC?


By pinballer247

7 months ago



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    #1 7 months ago

    I'm curious if any of you have major concerns or are thinking of not going to upcoming events such as TPF & MGC due to the coronavirus infection?!? Me and my wife are going to the MGC in April...well I am anyway! She is strongly thinking about backing out! I'm not too concerned at this point, make sure to have plenty of hand sanitizer/wipe machines down before playing and all should be well. Possibly wear gloves....

    #2 7 months ago

    No.

    Though I will probably bring hand sanitizer with for my self, and wash hands frequently.

    LTG : )

    #4 7 months ago
    Quoted from pinballer247:

    Possibly wear gloves....

    Just don't touch your face with the gloves. I swear every time I read a tip to not touch my face I'm touching my stupid face. I really need to stop touching my face!

    I wouldn't be overly concerned about MGC yet, plus by the time it happens we will have more information so I'd give it time before making a decision.

    #5 7 months ago

    No worry at all. And if you can't get sanitizer, make your own . 99% isopropyl alcohol and
    Combine in a bowl:
    ⅔-cup rubbing alcohol (99% isopropyl alcohol)
    ⅓-cup aloe vera gel.
    Stir. Decant into a clean soap or pump bottle.

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    #6 7 months ago

    My hands usually have a protective layer of lube on them anyway.

    #7 7 months ago

    Yes, I am worried the shows will lose money and have financial struggles in the future because people are afraid to live their lives.

    At this point there are many other things that are more likely to kill you.

    #8 7 months ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    My hands usually have a protective layer of lube on them anyway.

    The right one, anyway.

    #9 7 months ago
    Quoted from chad:

    No worry at all. And if you can't get sanitizer, make your own . 99% isopropyl alcohol and
    Combine in a bowl:
    ⅔-cup rubbing alcohol (99% isopropyl alcohol)
    ⅓-cup aloe vera gel.
    Stir. Decant into a clean soap or pump bottle.

    Just be careful making your own sanitizer. Alcohol is harsh on the skin and may do more harm than good.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/health/coronavirus-diy-hand-sanitizer-trnd/index.html?utm_content=2020-03-03T19%3A00%3A05&utm_term=link&utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social

    #10 7 months ago

    I am inventing a voice activated machine. That way you don't have to touch anything.....you just walk around yelling "flip....flip....flip"

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    #11 7 months ago

    My wife and I are still planning on the Texas show. Everything's already paid for. But I will say, we were thinking about going to the Northwest show in Seattle in June but have changed our minds.

    People can make fun of this all they want but I feel better these days just staying home.

    #12 7 months ago

    No more worried than I've been for the other infinite list of humanity-ending crisises that have come up in the last several years. The beat goes on!

    #13 7 months ago
    Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

    My wife and I are still planning on the Texas show. Everything's already paid for. But I will say, we were thinking about going to the Northwest show in Seattle in June but have changed our minds.
    People can make fun of this all they want but I feel better these days just staying home.

    I won't make fun of your decision, but we will probably all have been exposed to this one before June.

    #14 7 months ago

    We already have our fri tics, so we’ll be there for that unless things go parabolic. Gloves and hand sanitizer in tow. I get two weekends a yr to play, so it would take alot to keep me home.

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    #15 7 months ago

    If it helps ease the mind of some, my spouse works with the USPHS and is part of a rapid deployment team that combines with CDC, NASA, and a few other agencies to battle health crisis when they occur; hurricanes, Ebola, and now Covid-19.

    We’re moving forward with all of our travel plans and living life as we normally would.

    #16 7 months ago
    Quoted from Potatoloco:

    We’re moving forward with all of our travel plans and living life as we normally would.

    So you guys have the vaccine already, huh?

    #17 7 months ago

    Every virus needs a vector

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    #18 7 months ago

    I assume this is a joke thread?

    #19 7 months ago
    Quoted from solarvalue:

    So you guys have the vaccine already, huh?

    , Israel is in the testing phase right now, CDC is still 12-18 months out. You might get a Rick and Morty before a Covid-19 vaccine is developed by the CDC at that rate.

    In all reality, based on the briefings my spouse has had, just carry anti-bacteria, don’t touch eyes or nose, wash your hands consistently throughout the day. Another simple precaution for either tournament directors, vendors with games, etc, is to take Clorox wipes and wipe down the lockbar and flipper buttons once an hour. It can’t be transmitted through the skin, only through mucus membranes. If you have a habit of wiping down the lockbar or buttons with your shirt, AVOID doing this because you could pretty much carry the strain around with you, though this is the case with a lot of strains.

    #20 7 months ago

    Why? Anti-bacteria won't do a thing against a virus?

    #21 7 months ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    Why? Anti-bacteria won't do a thing against a virus?

    Because people generally as a whole don’t practice good hygiene habits in high traffic areas and at conventions and a virus isn’t the only thing that can be caught.

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    #22 7 months ago
    Quoted from Potatoloco:

    If you have a habit of wiping down the lockbar or buttons with your shirt, AVOID doing this because you could pretty much carry the strain around with you, though this is the case with a lot of strains.

    “Viruses, including coronavirus cannot live outside the body for prolonged periods of time. Under the right conditions, including the right humidity and the right temperature, this virus might survive on a surface for 30 minutes. And that would be under very optimized conditions,”

    So, for shows, just play terrible, unpopular games.

    #23 7 months ago

    me and borygard both got sick as hell after leaving expo this year. wash hands constantly!

    #24 7 months ago
    Quoted from Wickerman2:

    this virus might survive on a surface for 30 minutes.

    What is your source for that information? The WHO says otherwise:
    https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
    “ How long does the virus survive on surfaces?
    It is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days.”

    -1
    #26 7 months ago

    I’m very concerned...no longer going!

    #28 7 months ago

    There's always guranteed "con crud" coming home from any convention ever. But I doubt the corona virus is going to run rampant there.

    We have well-trained immune systems from prior conventions.

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    #29 7 months ago
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    #30 7 months ago
    Quoted from Potatoloco:

    In all reality, based on the briefings my spouse has had, just carry anti-bacteria, don’t touch eyes or nose, wash your hands consistently throughout the day. Another simple precaution for either tournament directors, vendors with games, etc, is to take Clorox wipes and wipe down the lockbar and flipper buttons once an hour. It can’t be transmitted through the skin, only through mucus membranes. If you have a habit of wiping down the lockbar or buttons with your shirt, AVOID doing this because you could pretty much carry the strain around with you, though this is the case with a lot of strains.

    I'd just like to add that a daily shower (with soap) and the use of some good deodorant certainly can't hurt.

    #31 7 months ago

    I am married to a wonderful woman who just happens to be a great Physician. This is the link she posted to her patient base.
    https://www.kxly.com/i/virology-expert-coronavirus-mortality-keeps-coming-down/?fbclid=IwAR0BqXuQgF34tM8B_M3AUhiRTaqUnTZh0A4mXvpFtt3oAsBHN36vOviF3zA

    #32 7 months ago
    Quoted from Wickerman2:

    “Viruses, including coronavirus cannot live outside the body for prolonged periods of time. Under the right conditions, including the right humidity and the right temperature, this virus might survive on a surface for 30 minutes. And that would be under very optimized conditions,”
    So, for shows, just play terrible, unpopular games.

    Forget it, now the guy testifying before congress says hours or up to a day...so back to covering yourself with alcohol.

    #33 7 months ago
    Quoted from Wickerman2:

    so back to covering yourself with alcohol.

    If that's a defense against catching it, TPF attendees got nothin to worry about.

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    #34 7 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

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    Yeah, the CDC has almost two months to prepare the country and states for this thing and they dont even have enough tests for all those that need testing in Seattle let alone the rest of the country. There are probably hundreds of undiagnosed people in the Seattle area right now but no one knows because testing is so far behind. What a shit show.

    Northern Italy is in lockdown and quarantine. They have one of the oldest populations in the world and the death rate there so far is tracking at an alarming 5%.

    Take this seriously folks and take the necessary precautions, if not for yourself, for your parents, seniors, and those with health conditions.

    #35 7 months ago
    Quoted from Black_Knight:

    I won't make fun of your decision, but we will probably all have been exposed to this one before June.

    If that happens (which it could), it will overwhelm our hospitals and healthcare system with the 10-20% that will require hospitalization. Many more otherwise treatable patients could die due to lack of beds and vital equipment.

    Rather than resigning yourself to the we're all going to get this by summer, taking precautions now and in the coming months is important. The longer we can delay it spreading in our communities and countries, the more time we buy for vaccines and treatments beginning trials now.

    I'm not saying panic and dont live your life. I am saying don't be complacent and take the attitude infection is inevitable.

    #36 7 months ago
    Quoted from Utesichiban:

    Take this seriously folks

    Makes sense.

    Hard to claim this is all nonsense, fear mongering when people can see in real time what’s happening in other countries. Lives being lost. Government quarantines. It’s a natural reaction I suppose for some to deny reality when they don’t like what they see.

    #37 7 months ago

    Shows/conventions all over the country are being canceled, some over caution, others because they are happening in an outbreak location, I still plan on attending MGC, but its a dynamic situation and things can change for better or worse rapidly.

    #38 7 months ago

    Following...

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    #39 7 months ago

    Are you people Fing serious?

    Do you stop going to events due to the normal Flu? If no, then why would CovN19 stop you?!??!?!!!?

    math... how does it work...

    COVID-19: Approximately 3,653 deaths reported worldwide; 17 deaths in the U.S., as of Mar. 8, 2020.

    Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

    #40 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    Are you people Fing serious?
    Do you stop going to events due to the normal Flu? If no, then why would CovN19 stop you?!??!?!!!?
    math... how does it work...
    COVID-19: Approximately 3,653 deaths reported worldwide; 17 deaths in the U.S., as of Mar. 8, 2020.
    Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

    I would agree, unless you have direct contact or live with the elderly, or someone who has a compromised immune system.

    #41 7 months ago

    With the current hysteria out there, my bet it is cancelled from a pure liability standpoint. Really wanted to go, but won't be surprised if it doesn't happen

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    #42 7 months ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    I would agree, unless you have direct contact or live with the elderly, or someone who has a compromised immune system.

    again, if the normal flu does not change your behavior... why would this.

    It is just plain stupid. Outside of this panic logic... all you are possibly doing by self isolating is delaying the inevitable.

    Again, we are talking VERY small numbers compared to the regular flu.

    Go out and live life.

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    #43 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    why would this.

    Normal flu has a vaccine and anti viral treatment and is lethal to a small fraction of people AND you usually know if you have the flu. The numbers are skewed because corona hasn’t spread as far as the flu.

    Flu kills .1 %
    This kills up to 30x that # and is very deadly to the elderly causing lung infections.

    It can be mild and present as a normal cold if it stays in nose/throat but can travel in to lungs and turn critical overnight.

    We have zero immunity to corona whereas flu, again would have a certain percentage of people with antibodies.

    If allowed to spread as much as the flu between this year and next “season” this has potential to kill as many or more than Spanish flu of 1918.

    #44 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    s delaying the inevitable.

    This may be true but delaying getting it actually helps in that the shitty healthcare system we have will be overwhelmed if everyone gets it in the first “wave”.

    #45 7 months ago
    Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

    People can make fun of this all they want but I feel better these days just staying home.

    Can't be too careful at your age.

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    #46 7 months ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    Can't be too careful at your age.

    I heard that, asshole!

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    #47 7 months ago
    Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

    I heard that, asshole!

    I should moderate your post but our policy is now to be a bit more tolerant with older pinsiders

    #48 7 months ago
    Quoted from Wickerman2:

    Normal flu has a vaccine and anti viral treatment and is lethal to a small fraction of people AND you usually know if you have the flu. The numbers are skewed because corona hasn’t spread as far as the flu.

    Well, the vaccine doesn't work 100% of the time, and for the anti viral treatment to work, you have to catch it within the first 24 hours. Otherwise your SOL.

    But I agree, if you have the flu, you usually know it.

    #49 7 months ago
    Quoted from Wickerman2:

    This kills up to 30x that # and is very deadly to the elderly causing lung infections.

    This is the type of fear mongering nonsense I can't let go unanswered.
    Not a SINGLE healthy person who contracted Covid-19 has died not a single person.
    Tragically it found it's way into a nursing home and took lives there.
    On an anecdotal note when my father was in a memory care facility before he passed the flu had gotten in the facility and almost half of the patients developed pneumonia and died.

    -1
    #50 7 months ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    But I agree, if you have the flu, you usually know it.

    You usually have the flu several days before you start feeling symptoms.

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