was playing my jacks open last night... in the middle of a game, the drops stopped scoring (the score motor rotated, but no scoring happened).. i turned it off, and when i turned it back on (gi lights turned on) and pressed the start button, nothing happened... not even the start relay would engage...

thought, "let's check pf power first, since it is easy, and maybe something is questionable there"... nope, fuse measured good, and i get 27.6v across the fuse holder...

scratched my butt for awhile, and started looking around... went back to the head, and while poking around back there, the machine fired up... had my wife play it while i watched, and it stopped scoring again... this time i saw it though... the wiring harness moved and pushed up against the 1000 point relay, and was holding it closed... pulled that away, had her restart the game, and voila, no more problem...

i'm not completely convinced that there isn't something else jostling around that is the real culprit on the "no start" problem, as the startup sequence indicates that the s relay should fire before the score reels even know the game is being started, but at least it works now...

#2 10 years ago

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TopJimmyCooks

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Good job using the old eyes and ears before going crazy with the soldering iron.

#3 10 years ago

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KoolFingers

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Quoted from ccotenj:
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scratched my butt for awhile, and started looking around... went back to the head, and while poking around back there..

lol the first time I read your post I thought you were talking about scratching your butt then your head.

#4 10 years ago

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ccotenj

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11y 77,150 7,231

Quoted from TopJimmyCooks:
Good job using the old eyes and ears before going crazy with the soldering iron.

thanks... you guys have taught me well...

Quoted from KoolFingers:
lol the first time I read your post I thought you were talking about scratching your butt then your head.

lol, yea, that could have been worded a bit better...

9 months later

#5 9 years ago

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ccotenj

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today's lesson was "always replace flipper parts in pairs"...

i had a sticky stop on a "new to me" game, so i replaced it... the flippers needed to be aligned, so i did that and and figured i was good... fired up the game to test it, and the flipper that still had the old stop had more range of motion... pulled that stop, and it was hammered, allowing the plunger to "plunge farther" than the new stop... replaced that, and all was well...

i shouldn't have had to have learned this the hard way, i should have realized that the stop would be beaten... but in my defense, the sticky one didn't appear to be that bad, so i assumed (i know, i know) that the other one was in similar physical condition...

lesson learned...

#6 9 years ago

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SealClubber

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I thought he was scratching his butt in the bathroom (Head).

#7 9 years ago

MLF

stashyboy

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Quoted from ccotenj:
today's lesson was "always replace flipper parts in pairs"...
i had a sticky stop on a "new to me" game, so i replaced it... the flippers needed to be aligned, so i did that and and figured i was good... fired up the game to test it, and the flipper that still had the old stop had more range of motion... pulled that stop, and it was hammered, allowing the plunger to "plunge farther" than the new stop... replaced that, and all was well...
i shouldn't have had to have learned this the hard way, i should have realized that the stop would be beaten... but in my defense, the sticky one didn't appear to be that bad, so i assumed (i know, i know) that the other one was in similar physical condition...
lesson learned...

You wouldn't have had that problem if you had simply let me buy that TP from boilerman in the first place!

#8 9 years ago

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ccotenj

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Quoted from stashyboy:
You wouldn't have had that problem if you had simply let me buy that TP from boilerman in the first place!

i suppose you do have a point there...

#9 9 years ago

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