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Announcing the NYC Pinball Championships 2018


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    #6 2 years ago
    Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

    Amazing, congrats and thank you for taking the initiative to produce this! Will there be options available for people to test their skills against the mediocre players from around the world? I'm, uh... asking for a friend.

    There is a B tournament - the top 24 players ranked outside the top 2,000 who do NOT qualify for A will play in the B finals.

    There's also women's tournament which will be qualified the same way.

    #10 2 years ago
    Quoted from westofrome:

    Will there be games to play on site that are not part of the tournament?

    TBD. We do know at least a JJP POTC will be there to play but it's more of a tournament than a show at this point. We hope to expand quickly.

    #16 2 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Not exactly 'earth-shattering' or whatever the superlative of choice was.....god, I hate marketing. This is why I can never have a job in sales. =Þ

    You should watch the trailer again if you not convinced of the Earth-shattering nature of this event!

    Thanks for the suggestions, I think we are open to everything here. I do think we want to keep it simple, and attract as many people as possible.

    And as you noted Frax, it's not just a pinball tournament, it's a vacation! Bring the family. Amazing location.

    (sorry couldn't help myself...but this thing practically markets itself!)

    #18 2 years ago
    Quoted from Vdrums:

    This sounds quite exciting and well planned. I hope it gains momentum better than my other hobby (high end audio) which had a show in a hotel in midtown NYC this past weekend which was much smaller than in previous years.

    My GF's brother was in town this weekend and said the exact same thing - that the audiophile scene has shrunk dramatically and that there are fewer stores and the shows are tiny. I guess it's because people just want small shitty convinient speakers these days for their Iphones? He said the show used to be in a ballroom and now it's basically in a hotel room.

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    #24 2 years ago
    Quoted from GravitaR:

    Very well stated.

    It’s not THAT well stated, as it didn’t offer an alternative.

    What do you think is a better cutoff? 1500? 1000? Nothing?

    Do you really think top 100 or 200 people should be eligible for B?

    Genuinely curious as to the thoughts here. Personally I think that someone who finishes 37th most of the time could rightfully aspire to qualify in a tournament like this. There’s also a classics tournament.

    #27 2 years ago
    Quoted from Kryptonite:

    I don't know what an appropriate cutoff would be. I would be happy with 1500.
    But to come up with something less self-servingly arbitrary, looking at the 2017 New York State Championship IFPA rankings (https://www.ifpapinball.com/rankings/custom_view.php?id=99), no one in the top 50 is lower than 1255 overall. The average rank of those from 51-100 is 1474.64 today. Maybe 1500 is actually pretty reasonable!
    There needs to be some sort of cutoff because otherwise you have a similar problem: players like me get demoralized because B division will just be A division playoffs part 2.
    The trick is figuring out what's fair and/or meets your goals. Who do you think the B division should be for? Define that then come up with some sort of metric. You're never going to make everyone happy, but as long as you can defend your choice, hopefully you'll cut down on the complaints.
    Sorry if I came off as being overly critical! I was just trying to give a perspective to consider.
    Throwing in my 37th average finish was probably a mistake because it includes a bunch of small local tournaments as well as large events like PAPA and Pinburgh, so doesn't really give an accurate picture. Do I aspire to qualify in A division? Absolutely. But experience shows that I'm much more likely to eke out qualifying for B division playoffs, if anything. Especially if the event is going to draw top players from across the country. Based on that, I personally find a cutoff of 2000 to be a disincentive to travel.

    Your feedback is appreciated.

    #30 2 years ago
    Quoted from Crispin:

    The winner gets to choose from one of our many authentic Famous Ray's pizza parlors here in the city.

    Fat Sal’s is right across the street and it ain’t bad.

    Seems like there’s fewer original Ray’s than ever. It’s scary.

    And Chicago deep dish is perfectly good but it ain’t “pizza.” It’s casserole.

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    #34 2 years ago
    Quoted from Kryptonite:

    Frankly I think having the cut-off that low will act as a disincentive for some players. It is for me.
    I'm in the top 2000, but my average finish is 37th. Given the caliber of players in the NYC area, I know my chances of qualifying for the playoffs of A division are pretty slim. Knowing that I don't have a chance to compete in the B division leaves me wondering if it's worth taking time off work to travel when there are lots of other events I could use that vacation time for.
    Maybe I'm in the minority (I'm a solid PAPA C-Division player who travels to play in tournaments I have no chance of winning), but if there are others who share my mentality, revenue for the prize pool will actually go down rather than up.

    You talked - we listened.

    We will be lowering the B-Division cutoff to 500 ifpa instead of 2,000.

    Other news, including official announcements regarding the women’s tournament, room rate block, and t-shirt design, will be coming shortly.

    #35 2 years ago

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Dec. 29, 2017
    Contact: Levi Nayman - neverbeefproductions@gmail.com
    www.nycpinballchamps.com

    Discount Room Rate Announced, Women’s Tournament Finalized, B Division Eligibility Expanded

    (New York, NY) - Never Beef Productions is proud to end 2017 with a trio of exciting announcements.
    The discounted room block for attendees wishing to stay at the New York City Pinball Championships’ host venue - the fabulous Skyline Hotel - has been released. The discounted rate of $229 a night is among the best in the city for a quality room during the season, and gives attendees and their families a great reason to stay in New York City for a vacation along with the tournament. The discounted rate is available between May 17-21. Room quantity is limited, so attendees can book now through Never Beef Production’s Facebook page, www.nycpinballchamps.com, or at:
    https://reservations.travelclick.com/98910?groupID=2083249#/guestsandrooms
    We are also pleased to announce the finalized details for the Women's Division of the New York City Pinball Championships. Qualification for the Women's Division will run simultaneously with the qualifying for the main tournament. No additional entries will need to be purchased. On Sunday, May 20, the top 8 women players will have a chance to compete for great prizes including a signed Jersey Jack Pinball playfield for the champ. There will be no conflict between the Women’s Division and the other divisions, so players can qualify and play in any of the other division finals without having to choose. More details can be found here: https://www.nycpinballchamps.com/tournament-info
    Also, based upon overwhelming player feedback, we have greatly expanded eligibility for the B division tournament. B division will now be open to all players with an IFPA ranking of 500 or above, instead of the 2,000 ranking initially announced. This will give far more players who qualify in the top 48 an opportunity to play in a championship final at the NYCPC.
    Get more information on the NYCPC by liking Never Beef Production’s Facebook page, or visit the event’s website at NYCPINBALLCHAMPS.COM to view our event trailer, book a room, see a list of registered players, and more. It’s a new year and a new championship-class pinball event in 2018 - the New York City Pinball Championships. More news will be forthcoming in 2018.

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    #36 2 years ago

    Hey gang just a quick heads up -

    We need to institute a player cap of 140 registered players. We have under 50 spots left.

    So if you want to register, now is the time. Www.nycpinballchamps.com

    We’ve also got our t shirt designs straight.

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    #38 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Glow in the dark stars?

    Fck that’s a good idea

    #40 2 years ago

    Thank you all for the astounding response! We are now SOLD OUT (at 140) but now is the time to get in early on the wait-list. No $ required for the wait list. Sign up now for the wait list and let the world know how big a NYC tournament can be! Waitlist link here:
    https://www.nycpinballchamps.com/events/nyc-pinball-championships-2018

    Registered player list is here:

    https://www.nycpinballchamps.com/registered-players

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    #43 2 years ago

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 23, 2018
    Contact: Levi Nayman - neverbeefproductions@gmail.com
    www.nycpinballchamps.com

    Championship Sunday Tickets to Benefit Project Pinball Charity
    Partnership With Project Pinball Will Help Bring Pinball to New York Area Children’s Hospitals

    (New York, NY) - Never Beef Productions (NBP) is proud to announce a partnership with Project Pinball, a non-profit charity organization that places pinball machines in children’s hospitals and Ronald McDonald Houses to introduce therapeutic benefits to kids. Project Pinball currently has placed 32 pinball machines in 28 children’s hospitals across 16 states.
    To kickstart the partnership, proceeds from all spectator tickets sold on May 20 to watch the Main Division Finals on Championship Sunday, when the New York City Pinball Champion is crowned, will benefit Project Pinball. Purchasing a ticket grants entry to watch the finals at the fabulous 9th floor penthouse ballroom of the Skyline Hotel. Seating and a large projector viewing screen will be provided so spectators can stay on top of the action. There will be live commentary and updates, all designed to create an engrossing spectator experience that will engage seasoned pinball fans and those enjoying their first live championship pinball experience alike.
    A full bar will be available so spectators can grab a beer, wine, or liquor drink.
    Project Pinball will provide door prizes, and there are plans to bring a vintage refurbished 1975 Bally Old Chicago pinball machine to raffle off. Tickets for Project Pinball’s popular ongoing New In Box Stern pinball machine raffles will be available on site.
    “Project Pinball is an organization we all believe in, and we are thrilled to use the awesome power of the New York City Pinball Championships to help benefit this charity. It’s going to be an incredibly exciting day of watching some of the world’s best players battle it out to be crowned NYCPC Champion, and all funds from ticket sales will go toward placing pinball machines into New York area children’s medical facilities,” said Levi Nayman of NBP.
    For more information about project pinball, visit projectpinball.org.

    What: New York City Pinball Championship Sunday
    Where: Skyline Hotel – 725 10th Ave. @ 49th St., New York, New York.
    When: May 20th, 2018. Doors and finals start at 10:00 am, main event will run approx. 2pm-6pm.
    How: $10 tickets will be available at the door, all proceeds benefit the Project Pinball Charity. All registered players for NYCPC will receive a free Championship Sunday ticket and are welcome to make donations on site.

    #44 2 years ago

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 12, 2018
    Contact: Levi Nayman - neverbeefproductions@gmail.com
    www.nycpinballchamps.com

    Professional and Amateur Pinball Association (PAPA) Joins as Sponsor
    Partnership Brings First-Class eSports Streaming Rig to NYCPC

    (New York, NY) - Never Beef Productions (NBP) is proud to announce that the Professional and Amateur Pinball Association (PAPA), which is part of the nonprofit Replay Foundation, the organization behind ReplayFX, the pinball and gaming convention which hosts the world’s largest pinball tournament, is joining the New York City Pinball Championships (NYCPC) team as a sponsor. The partnership means that PAPA will be bringing its professional eSports streaming rig and streaming production team to the event, ensuring that first-class audio and video coverage of the championships will be available for pinball tournament viewers across the globe.
    PAPA’s eSports streaming rig and production team have brought gaming fans high-quality, multi-camera coverage of such major pinball tournaments as the PAPA World Championships, Pinburgh, the Buffalo Pinball Open, IFPA World Championships, and many others.
    “We couldn’t be happier that the PAPA production team will be on hand to stream this event so that tens of thousands of pinball tournament fans can watch live coverage of the New York City Pinball Championships Main and Women’s Division finals. PAPA has shown time and time again their commitment to elevating the home viewing experience for major pinball tournaments. With their gear, production team, and experience, we are going to provide viewers with a groundbreaking, next-level production to accompany the high-level, high-stakes play,” said Levi Nayman of NBP.
    For more information about PAPA, visit papa.org, and check out PAPA’s YouTube channel to view the organization’s vast archive of pinball tutorials and tournament coverage (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp-cSoq5qVVyts7H8rQjV-w).
    For more information about ReplayFX, being held July 26-29 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, visit replayfx.org.
    In addition, NBP is excited to announce that professional broadcasting personality and competitive pinball player Jeff Teolis will be on hand at the NYCPC, lending his pro talents for on-air interviews and other segments during the internet streams. Teolis’ podcast – Pinball Profile – reaches thousands of pinball fans a month and has developed an impressive archive of interviews with leading tournament players, industry giants, and other pinball personalities. Listen at podcastgarden.com/podcast/pinballprofile

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    #45 2 years ago

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: May 2, 2018

    G FUEL Energy Drink Joins NYCPC Team as Executive Producer
    Sugar-Free Energy Drink to Fuel New York City Championships

    (New York, NY) - Never Beef Productions (NBP) is excited to announce that G FUEL Energy Formula, a powdered energy drink, is joining our team as the exclusive Executive Producer of the New York City Pinball Championships (NYCPC). G FUEL has become synonymous with eSports, sponsoring Major League Gaming’s Call of Duty Championships tournament, the HALO World Championship, and many of eSport’s top events, competitors and streamers. G FUEL’s line of sugar-free energy drinks has quickly gained a large following among gamers since the product’s launch in 2012, giving players the energy, focus, endurance, and hydration they need without the jitters and crash that accompany canned sugared beverages.
    The partnership allows for a major expansion of the NYCPC in 2018 and beyond and will help expand the audience for top level competitive pinball.
    “G FUEL joining the NYCPC team is a major, major boom, equivalent to a double super jackpot with 4X playfield scoring,” said NBP’s Levi Nayman. “Their product is awesome, and their experience in eSports tournaments and streaming brings tournament pinball to a higher level than anybody thought was possible.”
    “Together, G FUEL, NBP, and the NYCPC are changing the game and launching the next era of pinball as a high-level competitive eSport, presenting the world under glass in spectacular fashion. This partnership will help dynamically expand the NYCPC now and in the future,” said NBP’s Tim Sexton.
    “We are excited to support the New York City Pinball Championship and bring our experience to help them expand in the coming years. This continues G Fuel’s commitment to be everywhere that gaming is,” said Cliff Morgan, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of G FUEL.
    As part of the sponsorship, G FUEL will provide every registered NYCPC competitor with a free G FUEL shaker cup and plenty of G FUEL stick packs to power them through the tournament.
    For more about G FUEL visit their web site at www.gfuel.com. In addition, for viewers at home, there will be special coupon codes presented during the live coverage of the NYCPC at the PAPA TV youTube channel.

    G Fuel Presents the New York City Pinball Championships will be held May 18-20, at the Skyline Hotel at 725 10th Avenue in Manhattan. Over 150 of the world’s top players will compete for the title of New York City Pinball Champion. Spectator tickets will be available for $10 at the door on May 20, Championship Sunday, with all proceeds benefiting the Project Pinball charity.

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    #46 2 years ago

    The Spectator Experience + Raffle Tickets - NYCPC

    Spectators are invited to experience the climax of the NYCPC on Championship Sunday, May 20, when the world’s top players battle it out in the finals to be crowned NYC Pinball Champion. $10 tickets will be sold at the door, with all proceeds going to benefit the Project Pinball organization, a non-profit group that places pinball machines in local area children’s hospitals and Ronald McDonald Houses to introduce therapeutic benefits to kids. Project Pinball currently has placed 32 pinball machines in 28 children’s hospitals across 16 states.
    In addition, all ticket buyers for Sunday will be automatically entered into a raffle for many awesome pinball-related prizes, from Project Pinball apparel all the way up to a gorgeous Wizard of Oz pinball playfield, an amazing art piece signed by Jersey Jack himself.
    Championship Sunday takes place at the fabulous 9th floor penthouse ballroom of the Skyline Hotel. Seating and a large projector viewing screen will be provided so spectators can stay on top of the action. There will be live commentary and updates, all designed to create an engrossing spectator experience that will engage seasoned pinball fans and those enjoying their first live championship pinball experience alike.
    A full bar will be available so spectators can grab a beer, wine, or liquor drink, and light snacks including chips and guacamole from El Original Tex Mex restaurant will also be available for purchase.

    Purchase tickets in advance now at:
    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=6noeoQx5q3bI0nz48c806htV_xqia4fpbOvxI_J0F3_LcVCrUobq1gc2wBTsm0t6y9jb1G&country.x=US&locale.x=US

    Tickets will also be available at the door, cash only.

    What: New York City Pinball Championship Sunday Spectator + Raffle tickets
    Where: Skyline Hotel – 725 10th Ave. @ 49th St., New York, New York.
    When: May 20th, 2018. Doors and finals start at 10:00 am, final championship rounds will run approx. 2pm-7pm.
    How: $10 tickets are available now online via Paypal, or cash at the door, all proceeds benefit the Project Pinball Charity. All registered players for NYCPC will receive a free Championship Sunday ticket and are welcome to make donations on site.

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    #50 2 years ago

    Check out PAPAtv’s YouTube channel tomorrow and you can watch the finals. Tonight’s women’s finals was broadcast and I’m sure was archived.

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    #94 2 years ago

    It’s so strange to me to see a few people who aren’t affected and likely have no interest in tournament pinball are sniffing around for insignificant dirt and missing the big picture:

    140 registered players, every single one of whom had a great time. It’s not hyperbole to say it’s the best pinball tournament I’ve ever been involved with, and I’ve been a steady participant on the circuit for 4 years now.

    An amazing experience, not without hiccups, and many lessons learned. Not for the feint of heart or lazy, but I’d recommend that anybody who thinks they can contribute to the tournament circuit seriously consider getting some friends together and launching an event of your own.

    You can create the event you’ve always wanted to attend, and you can do it the way you want, with the people you want, and with the character you want.

    The work can’t be understated, and your resolve and even your personal relationships may be tested. But you can achieve a true sense of boom that you’d never otherwise even be able to understand.

    After a couple days of sleep we’ll have more to say and more to show. Until then thanks again to everyone who was involved, without exception, but none more than Paul Caras, Tim Sexton, and Austin Smith for helping create an experience I’ll truly never forget.

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    #106 2 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Kman's latest podcast he makes somewhat of an apology and he admits that he threw a drink at Tim and was thrown out of the event.
    Levi, what was the take home for the winners? was it a set amount or based off the pump and dump?
    [edit found on the website the %'s for payouts based on ticket sales] How much did 1st take home?
    congrats on what sounds like a very successful event!

    Thanks! I’m not really the Tournament Director, I was involved in show production, providing games, press, Emceeing, and other details. But I believe our prize package was determined on percentage of tickets after our (considerable) expenses.
    The top prize in A was $1,500 - served up by virtue of awesome (of course, as Everything was awesome) giant check. I believe this and our other cash payouts puts us in the top percentile of other large pinball tournaments - better than any tournaments I’ve ever been to that weren’t held in Pittsburgh.

    Our A and B finalists received fantastic plaques and trophies along with some of the best prizes I’ve seen donated by sponsors - including gift certificates from the NYC community’s important small local businesses like modern pinball, world famous rock fantasy, and Jackbar, and the big boys really stepped it up too - with SIX gorgeous signed playfields from Jersey Jack (these things just kept showing up in the mail!!!) and a $500 Game Of Thrones topper from Stern - incredibly won by 4th place finisher Steven Bowden who happens to have a tournament-won NIB GOTLE he has sitting in a box at home, waiting for an excuse to come out and play!
    Pinstadium also sent us a great top of the line UV kit for a prize, and a big shout out to brickhouse Projects for their work on our awesome (of course) teaser trailer that kicked this thing off 6 months ago, and pingraffix who came through at the last minute with our awesome (of course) banners and signs, as well as their cool light up cabinet mods that were featured on the AFM On stream for much of the show, and of course Pinaholic for providing games that were featured in key matches the entire Championship Sunday.

    We also had the first ever Jjp POTC featured in a tournament, as a B finals contest game, to go with the Hobbit they brought for women’s and Dialed In LE for Main.

    Proud moment having my dad and Jersey Jack help me with my cuff links like it was prom night.

    Last but not least thanks to G Fuel, who donated product to every single contestant and spectator. I love the stuff , and it got me back in the game on Saturday night after 3 days of no sleep - powering me to 4th place finish in Classics in the only tournament I had time to play in.

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    #108 2 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Awesome stuff!
    Looks like if you plan to do it next year it will make the top WPPR cut offs for a circuit event as well!

    They appear to have a restrictive and iron-clad policy on that, as it seems that we won’t be eligible for circuit until I’m well into my 50s. I wish they’d reconsider as this is clearly and obviously a circuit-quality event.

    It’s not about whoppers as there are no requirements about that - it’s rather an arbitrary time period before an event can be considered.

    #113 2 years ago
    Quoted from djreddog:

    Most of the spectators came on Sunday for the finals at which point more space was made by removing numerous machines from the floor. For finals the main viewing area had 40 seats available with a 50” TV broadcasting the stream and a mixture of people providing live commentary to the guests that was different from the live stream commentary. As for qualifying, there wasn’t a ton of extra space nor was there a ton of spectators. Very few from what I saw. And the event had over 100 chairs lining the walls of the room. Easy to grab a seat and spectate.

    Thanks for explaining that better than I could!

    We tried to do something different than has been done in the past, and give people who don’t attend these, ever, something to enjoy. The live commentary, intros, and music were part of that, and I’m veey proud of our contestants - not a single person complained about distractions or the noise. I think this is an important thing that all major tournaments need to work on - having a dark, bland room with MAYBE a tv screen set up with a lag and no attempts to provide commentary or entertainment value beyond hardcore pinball tournament types just doesn’t cut it if you want to invite people to watch.

    We’d love a larger screen, a better PA, and more
    Seating but this year this was the best we could reasonably bite off.

    And, between the old
    Chicago machine raffle and ticket sales we raised over $1300 for project pinball, a great charity we were proud to support.

    The more new ideas, the better, and I hope people take some of the stuff we did and run with it, as well as introduce their own innovations.

    #117 2 years ago
    Quoted from westofrome:

    I'm curious about how the "live spectator" presentation was handled. Were the folks in a separate room? If not how did the spectator commentary, which presumably needed to be amplified, not bleed into the players' earshot?
    Love the idea of intros, personally I think for the finals players should be able to pick "walk-up music" like they have in baseball. Is that what the music was?

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    #129 2 years ago
    Quoted from djreddog:

    On a side note, I just started TD’ing about 7 months ago, and this is exactly what I need to see and hear. I’m all about flair and wow and for all of my future events we are going to do live announcing along with hyping up the players. It can only be good for the sport. This isn’t golf.

    BOOOOOOOM!

    #137 2 years ago
    Quoted from ifpapinball:

    It's necessary because there's too many "good events" out there already to choose from.
    To put NYCPC on the Circuit . . . you have to kick an event off the list, so we have a completely objective measurement as to how we determine "how good" an event is.
    As far as discouraging organizers from going all out to make new big events, I would hope that nobody looks to the Stern Pro Circuit as their primary motivating factor to start such an event. I've been organizing new big events for over 20 years, and my motivation has always been to simply provide players with a kick-ass experience and grow the reputation of the event from there. 3 years is hardly a blip on the radar if a group of organizers plans on running their event for 10, 15, 20+ years.

    This is a correct and fair assessment. I attend many big tournaments whether they are Circuits or not and I helped throw a tournament that wasn't hurt by it's lack of circuit status. As far as I can tell being part of the Stern Circuit doesn't bring you much of anything, besides (duh!) Stern circuit points.

    I understand Magfest has or will lose it's circuit status? Doesn't matter to me, I'll be there.

    #143 2 years ago

    Thanks for all the great pics, comments, and feedback gang. Keep it coming.

    #146 2 years ago
    Quoted from GravitaR:

    Looks like the tourney was held in a hallway to me. How could spectators present even watch?

    Here are pictures of spectators.

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    #150 2 years ago
    Quoted from triadwatch:

    Levi saw the blue tape in a picture , is that a shout out to your Carolina peeps

    We will steal any and all good ideas we happen to pick up in our travels. Whether that is the case here I’m not really sure!

    #153 2 years ago

    Stream of the final 4!

    The intros were dope but I think next time we get practice out of the way so we can go straight from the hype into the finals! The event was a huge success but we are already making notes and discussing how we can improve it.

    #154 2 years ago

    Ha! An awesome walkthrough by the World Famous Rock Fantasy!

    Love it!!!

    #156 2 years ago
    Quoted from xbmanx:

    Ha that screenshot is me

    Hail Satan + pinball!!

    6 months later
    #161 1 year ago
    Quoted from bigehrl:

    levi- same venue?

    That's the plan. Bigger ballroom (over 2X the size) downstairs next to the restaurant/bar. Hate to lose the killer view but we need a bigger room. And load in will be much easier without fucking around with elevators. Throwing out obnoxious drunks will also be simpler this way .

    Or maybe it won't even happen. This shit is a lot of work. Official announcement one way or the other within a month or so hopefully. Working on some stuff now to make this happen.

    #166 1 year ago

    Appreciate the support guys. And yes games (as we will need an additional 15 or so this year) are a big concern. We will be reaching out to enthusiasts we know an manufacturers for more help this time around.

    1 month later
    #173 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    Why does it say this on the website: "Sales for this event haven't started yet! Sales start on Jan 26 at 9:00 AM"

    That certainly was queer!

    Don’t worry it has been fixed.

    Also hotel block link is coming soon.

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