Silly.... do you really think a few "Pinball Novices" like Stern know as much about the industry as the self-appointed pinball market experts on pinside?

Duh....

Guess Gary should stop goofing off and, you know, building & shipping pinball machines and lurk here in the forums like the other gurus do.....

lol. Bonehead post of the day award nominee....

So you'd be happier if they built a factory from the ground up, hired some novices and had them "learn on the job" how to assemble a pinball machine?

Super idea..... Then, 3 years from now you'd be seeing promises about how they are HOPING to ship out more than 10machines a week-"ISH" to fill orders.... Though, you might actually prefer that model.... That would prop up the value of your AFM and MB a tiny bit longer....

Sent from my Foxconn IPhone.... Er...... Wait....

Well, at least you are honest with your real concern: how quickly this will depreciate your Older generation AFM and MB.....

The fact that they have partnered with stern for assembly has to have some folks in a panic. A-listers may have thought that it would be year(s) to fill MMr orders before they had to worry about another remake.

Now, with this production model, new titles could hit the market dramatically faster!

This makes it far more interesting to me. The prospect of waiting years to see a machine delivered doesn't work for me or my lack of patience- THIS makes it less boutique and more mainstream. Great news!

Did you leave off a smiley when you posted that?

If anyone should be helping anyone:

Jack should swallow his pride and beg Stern to help get JJP pins out the door. Clearly, they excel at the dreamwork and designwork, NOT the production side of pinball.

Stern can built/ship as many machines in ONE month as JJP has stumbled through YEARS trying to get out the door. The WoZ backlog could be cranked out in about ONE WEEK (no -ish)....

Obviously this would never happen give the EGO involved, but it sure would leverage the skillset of both companies...

You're slipping.... you forgot to mention "wide-body" in the soliloquy

I agree.

Obviously PPS was sailing into uncharted waters with MMr. Given the speed at which it sold out, it's certainly possible the "market price" for this was > $8k!

If MMr turns out as good as it looks, you may also then add on top of that "market price" a potential premium for the PPS "updates" .... Or in other words, the value delta between the old WMS machines and the NIB remakes may shrink to zero, or even reverse....

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ok... maybe you're right....

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Well, thats a pretty broad claim....

I disagree that men and women are equally enamored with Superheros/comics books.... They CERTAINLY do not see the movies proportionally..... so, I'm not sure of your FACTS, but I'm open to see them if you have something to share along those lines.

What's pretty clear is that women prefer to see other woman as strong lead characters.... not men- even if they are dressed in skintight costumes.

Case in point:
Women make up the majority of movie ticket buyers, but were a distinct minority of those that went to see movies like IronMan, Man of Steel, etc. However, they retook the majority to see movies like Catching Fire.

So maybe the solution is some female superheros not just damsels in distress...

I absolutely agree with your point that superheros/comics/etc have a WAY broader audience than Mustang.... even just among the male demographic.

Yup... he's like the "pinball whisperer"

I poorly described 2 issues i had with a pin that was exhibiting issues after a cross-country delivery. About 20 people offered up suggestions- LTG was spot-on, both times....

Wait, are YOU for real?

Do you really think the draw and main story line for HG is killing kids? Sigh... yeah- that MUST be why its so popular. lol.....

But even if your complete misunderstanding of the book is correct, it surely isn't the only time kids are killed in popular literature....

To stay consistent, I can only assume you equally are shocked by:
Game of Thrones ("children" killed, raped, maimed)
X-men ("children" the objects of mutation and killing/being killed)
Harry Potter (nearly every character is a kid, and is busy killing and/or being killed)

Lord of the Flies- equally abhorrent, no doubt.... no redeeming message other than "killing kids."

lol- great movie.... now THOSE were some crazy chicks... here's one of my favorites... she also went on to play on strangely hot character (yes- legal, 19yrs old) in Kill Bill.

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8 page summary:
This is good news.

Congrats!

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But you're assuming all buyers are "collectors" or preoccupied with "collectibility." It doesnt seem like the MMr is all that apealing for folks that are trying to build some exclusive "collection."

Seems pretty simple:
MMr is catering to the folks that are PLAYERS first, collectors second. I suspect they are making their buying decision based on a couple simple criteria:
1. Will it play like the original
2. Is it built as well (and/or better) than the original
3. Is it worth the asking price...TODAY.

Future resale price is likely far down the list of worries. Similar to someone who buys a premium (vs LE) NIB Stern or WoZ....

Please reference all the people who are claiming MMr to be 100% flawless?

I think the fact that MMr has built in redundancies and extra adjust-ability SHOWS they understand these things are prone to fail on occasion and are doing their best to "plan ahead."

The absence of "100% flawless perfection" should not be the litmus test for progress...

Or, are you stuck in 1997 with ALL your purchases? Surely you are still using:

VHS player (those dvd players use LASERS!??!?!!?!? - That CANT be safe!!!!!)
big old tube television set (those new-fanged flat things are scary and NON-REPAIRABLE)
Sexy 1997 car of the year, the Chevy Malibu

I'll wait for your response (since it probably take a while to upload it via your 14.4k modem)...

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Here's the part I agree with

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