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ANN: MMR assembly to be done by Stern Pinball for PPS/Chicago Gaming!


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#1 5 years ago

Planetary Pinball, Chicago Gaming and Stern Pinball announce Specialty Manufacturing Arrangement

CHICAGO, IL – MAY 14, 2014 – Planetary Pinball Supply (“PPS”), Chicago Gaming Company (“CGC”) and Stern Pinball, Inc. (“SPI”), today announced a specialty manufacturing arrangement pursuant to which SPI will make its manufacturing facility available to PPS and CGC to assemble their remake of the Medieval Madness (“MMR”) pinball game.

CGC, which has a long-standing business relationship with SPI, will assemble the game for PPS in SPI’s factory using SPI’s factory labor and production line assets. The game will be assembled with parts supplied by CGC which consist of original WMS specification parts combined with the new electronics and lighting systems designed by CGC. Final prep, packaging and shipment will be from CGC facility in Cicero, IL.

“We think this arrangement provides the best solution to insure the timely delivery of a high quality game for our customers who wish to own this legendary title” said Rick Bartlett, President of PPS.

“We have a long-standing relationship with SPI and its high capacity manufacturing operation will allow us to complete the MMR games in a timely fashion,” added Doug Duba, President of CGC.

“We’re looking forward to helping PPS and CGC exceed the expectations of Medieval Madness pinball enthusiasts,” said Gary Stern, President of SPI.

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All trademarks and product names are the property of their respective companies.

ANNOUNCEMENT FAQ:

Q: What is the announcement?

A: The announcement is that Chicago Gaming Co (CGC) and Planetary Pinball Supply, Inc.(PPS) will be using the Stern Pinball, Inc (SPI) factory to assemble the Playfield and Cabinet assemblies for Medieval Madness Remake, using both original spec WEG (Williams Electronic Games, Inc.) Medieval Madness parts and newly-designed CGC parts (electronics and lighting systems). SPI will make its manufacturing facility and factory labor available to

PPS and CGC.

Q: Why would you do this as I thought CGC was making the game?

A: CGC is ‘making the game’ for PPS and, as such, they have designed, prototyped and tested the game. CGC retains responsibility for the BOM (bill of materials), overall QA responsibility for the game, as well as packaging and shipping. What is happening is that rather than build a pinball production line, we will be using SPI’s. SPI has a high capacity line and manufacturing operation.

Q: If you were picking a pinball manufacturer – why not pick JJP since you already have a relationship with them?

A: A number of reasons go into this – first we have a relationship with SPI as well and SPI has been doing contract manufacturing for many years, and is geared up for it whereas JJP is very focused on producing its own games (WOZ, etc). Additionally, the logistics between CGC and SPI already exist – trucks move back and forth between the companies daily, as well as the finishing up at CGC would not be able to happen if the game were assembled in New Jersey. There is a lot of sub-assembly that is being done both at CGC as well as with suppliers in the Chicago area, so this is another consideration.

Q; Why would Stern Pinball do this – helping out a ‘competitor’?

A: MMR is going to be built one way or another and SPI believes MMR fits into their contract manufacturing line of business, which helps keep its factory busy during breaks between Stern-branded games. Additionally, there is a reduction in market uncertainty by insuring the game comes out sooner than later, which helps everyone.

Q: What does this do to the schedule?

A: The great news is it firms up the schedule as SPI can build upwards of 200 games/week on its line and this will allow MMR’s to be scheduled to be assembled in one or more builds, which will help ensure that we will finish the LE’s before the end of the year – so it basically allows us to get a lot more games out in a much shorter period of time with a different ramp up. The initial games will slip a few weeks to get everything setup to run. Everything assumes of course the timely delivery of all quality parts needed to assemble the game from CGC.

Q: Does this change the plan for Pre-Production games?

A: The pre-production games will now be assembled at the SPI factory, to give the production line a warmup for starting the overall assembly of the first run. The pre-production gets pushed out a few weeks.

Q: What about the quality – are you sacrificing quality by going with Stern Pinball?

A: The quality of a game is a function of many factors including parts selection, design, as well as build quality. For the MMR, the assembly is using OUR set of parts and OUR design. As for build quality, the objective is to have the same build quality as the original Medieval Madness. Additionally, we will incorporate CGC Quality Control people into the SPI line to address and escalate any build issues. Finally, SPI itself has major initiatives focused on improving build quality, which will benefit us.

Conversely, there is a learning curve and a ramp up of building a new manufacturing line – there are people to hire, train, etc, and lots of design and working to get ‘things right’. Additionally, from all of our cumulative manufacturing experience, we all know that a new assembly facility would have ‘bumps in the road'. We chose this path to help avoid those bumps which would translate to delays that we could not predict and thus more uncertainty and delay in customers getting their games at the level of quality that they expect. Also, if you do not keep an assembly line running then you have issues with people not having work in-between, retraining … and potentially quality issues popping up from time to time. SPI’s assembly line does not have these issues and they can handle the capacity of the MMR games.

Q: When did this decision get made – have you been keeping us in the dark?

A: The decision was brought up in earnest in March, and we had initial discussions, including a list of concerns that we wanted addressed (many of the concerns that are being answered in this FAQ). We had some additional discussion between CGC/PPS/SPI management and PPS/CGC came to a decision in early May that this would be the best path for the customer.

Q: Does this mean Stern Pinball will be building all of the PPS/CGC games?

A: This decision is for MMR, that is the focus. There have been no discussions with SPI about building any more games. We will deliver MMR first, and then consider what the market tells us and proceed based on that.

Q: Why wouldn’t Stern Pinball just sabotage the game or the dates, etc?

A: SPI has a strong reputation and the industry is very small. Additionally, this supports SPI’s business in terms of contract manufacturing (assembly), and our customers are in many cases SPI’s customers and visa-versa – the pinball community is a very tight space, and any negatives like this would not serve SPI. CGC has an ongoing business relationship with SPI, providing Cabinets and Playfields for SPI games, so there is a strong business and industry relationship there. PPS has always been on respectful terms with SPI (and we are the exclusive provider of Gary Stern’s personal Jelly Belly stash!). In the end, the market players are embracing the ‘coompetition model’ – where players can both ‘compete’ but also ‘cooperate’ at the same time – a refreshing option in this case which we believe will benefit all of our customers.

#2 5 years ago

Awesome ! Great news Rick !
LTG : )™

#3 5 years ago

Wow! I didn't see that one coming! Sounds like a good deal. Bring on my MMRLE!

#4 5 years ago

Whatever gets the games to market....

#5 5 years ago

Awesome is right!

#6 5 years ago

This is a fantastic move IMO.

Stern has the capacity and the trained workers to get this cranked out fast.

#7 5 years ago

This sounds very reasonable for all involved. Great news indeed.

#8 5 years ago

Ok by me as long as I get mine before Gary

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#9 5 years ago

Will SPI assembly of MMr for PPS delay The Walking Dead, which is the next Stern title due out?

(Okay. Next Stern title due out...according to numerous threads posted on Pinside.)

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#10 5 years ago

Stern helping reproduce Williams titles...

Whoa!

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#11 5 years ago

this honestly blows my mind

#12 5 years ago

Holy shit!

#13 5 years ago

I guess we'll be playing sooner rather than later.

#14 5 years ago
Quoted from fattrain:

Stern helping reproduce Williams titles...
Whoa!

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#15 5 years ago

The irony here is hilarious

#16 5 years ago

This is a very smart business decision. Didn't see this one coming at all. Is this the semi-epic announcement or is there more to come at PAGG?

#17 5 years ago

Smart move. We (the buyers) benefit

#18 5 years ago

I'm not sure where this fits on the 'Epic Scale' but yes, this was the one for PAGG which we pulled up a couple of days. It sounds like at least an Epic surprise to many ...

#19 5 years ago

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

#20 5 years ago

Nice move on your part.

I take it this is the epic announcement.

#21 5 years ago

This is an Epic Announcement.

Great move by PPS

#22 5 years ago

Wow. This is a very shrewd move on Stern's part....they don't have to worry about the design or distribution -but actually helps them keep the line going during the down times (and makes money!).

Frankly this could be the beginning of a great relationship for both parties. Rick brings the machines ready to be manufactured by Stern. This is just another extension of Stern Pin into new and potentially profitable areas by strengthening the relationship with the owner of William's licenses. THINK of the possibilities if this goes well!

Well played Gary. Well played!

GOOD MOVE RICK. Best of luck to all involved.

#23 5 years ago

Well, wasn't the biggest delay in WOZ production due to the fact that Jack had to build a factory from scratch? This makes perfect sense to me. I can handle the fact that my Sam Adams beer probably wasn't brewed in Boston, can you?

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#24 5 years ago

So PPS is licensing a game by WMS, which is manufactured/assembled by CGC and Stern and sold by JJP/Pinball Sales?

Rick is like Cyrus in the Warriors, combining all the gangs into one super power.. Can yoooooooouuuuuuuu diiiiiigggggggg ittttttttttttttttttt?

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#25 5 years ago

Smart move Rick !!

#26 5 years ago

Very cool.

This further strengthens the fact that Illinois is the epicenter of pinball.

#27 5 years ago

I wonder if this is why Stern is looking to move into a larger facility.

#28 5 years ago

I just hope my MMr doesn't have that "Stern feel".

#29 5 years ago

Great news!!!

#30 5 years ago
Quoted from indypinhead:

I just hope my MMr doesn't have that "Stern feel".

Thats funny because I do.

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#31 5 years ago
Quoted from indypinhead:

I just hope my MMr doesn't have that "Stern feel".

All WMS OEM / CGC parts so it will have that "WMS feel"... we will try to incorporate "WMS" scent into it, I don't think screwdrivers leave a scent

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#32 5 years ago
Quoted from PPS:

All WMS OEM / CGC parts so it will have that "WMS feel"... we will try to incorporate "WMS" scent into it, I don't think screwdrivers leave a scent

Have George, Lyman, Steve, etc. roll around on the parts!

#33 5 years ago
Quoted from Skypilot:

Ok by me as long as I get mine before Gary

So Gary always says his favorite machine is the one that is currently on the assembly line, so does this mean that at some point Gary's favorite machine will NOT be a stern machine?

#34 5 years ago

Hey Rick, let me know if you sell those cans of "Williams scent" separately, I'd like to revitalize a few of the B/W games I own.

#35 5 years ago

I respect Rick for keeping all the cry babies informed at all times. It ain't easy. You got a ton of patience.

No doubt mmr's will get cranked out.

#36 5 years ago

Big time news for the MMR and perhaps future PPS pinball products. Congrats PPS

#37 5 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Have George, Lyman, Steve, etc. roll around on the parts!

You joke, but I didn't even think about this game being built where Lyman works. That feels right to me!

#38 5 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

You joke, but I didn't even think about this game being built where Lyman works. That feels right to me!

They've gotta take a pic of Lyman & the ex-Williams guys playing the new MMr at the Stern factory!

#39 5 years ago
Quoted from pkiefert:

So Gary always says his favorite machine is the one that is currently on the assembly line, so does this mean that at some point Gary's favorite machine will NOT be a stern machine?

If Stern makes it is it a Stern??

#40 5 years ago
Quoted from PPS:

we will try to incorporate "WMS" scent

I bet Glade will be knocking on your door for a bathroom spray

#42 5 years ago

Seems pretty epic to me
Good stuff! now bring on MB, CC, BBB & AFM

#43 5 years ago

I guess MMR won't be putting Stern out of business after all.

#44 5 years ago
Quoted from kid_ego:

I wonder if this is why Stern is looking to move into a larger facility.

They have always subcontracted work through the years.

Larger facility is probably a reflection of the things they've done in recent years. Stern is on a roll.

LTG : )™

#45 5 years ago

It's honestly what JJP should have done.

We all would have had our WOZs already, at 200 games per week.

#46 5 years ago

Great move Rick. Makes perfect sense. No doubts about the delivery stream now! Shrewd move. Like others have said...WOW!

#47 5 years ago
Quoted from jalpert:

I guess MMR won't be putting Stern out of business after all.

It's a smart move on Sterns part just as much as it is on PPS' part.

They've got a symbiotic thing going on now.

#48 5 years ago

Rick you are awesome !

#49 5 years ago
Quoted from PPS:

we will try to incorporate "WMS" scent into it

I still have a can of WMS Essence that I spray into high-end restorations, like they use at used car lots.

#50 5 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Larger facility is probably a reflection of the things they've done in recent years. Stern is on a roll.

I came into the hobby late and am so glad it's on a roll now.

Might have to schedule a visit when the MMRs are on the line and show my boys a classic...reborn!

These are more than I'd like to spend for a pin, but if AFM is ever remade, I don't know...I might be tempted.

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