I think many as seen here think the price is wrong. Which to me means they are leaving money on the table by not pricing the standard just a little lower. It's simple, price a little lower and sell to the people that wouldn't otherwise buy because of the bad taste in their mouths from making the standard the same price. Or they can keep it the same price and lose those potential customers. Not everyone here just throws away money and thinks Ahh hell what's another $250. Believe it or not $250 is the difference between me buying one and not.

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You would have to agree that running the LE and Standard at the same price with less features in less than a day is bad form? If it wasn't everyone would be holding hands around the camp fire singing kumbaya and sharing stories of when their MM is gonna be shipped. The fact is once they stop making anything it's limited edition. Get rid of the Stern business model, calling a machine le gets people up in a panic that they won't own a machine and is greed produced by Stern. For a game like MM there is no need to generate that panic, they will sell... No need for an LE, build them till there is no interest. Doing things like creating two different models at the same price is gonna hurt their sales.

This is hardly "losing my shit"

I'm just making an assessment of the situation. I was all set to pull the trigger on the standard model till I realized it's the same price with less clearcoat. Why these companies can't just make one model is beyond me? Oh and catering to the masses would be putting out a statement that said due to the overwhelming response to MM we decided to extend the amount of preorders till interest has died down and only make the standard model.

Oh and one more thing, why do I have to be happy that they are making it at all? They should be happy they have customers willing to pay 8k for a pinball machine that was released 16 years ago. Don't think they are making these to make people happy if that were the case they would sell them for next to nothing, the bottom line is money. I just want to be able to by a pinball machine that's the same as everyone bought without having to make an impulsive money decision. Do I want a MM? Absolutely? Do I want to have features taken away but pay the same price within a 24 hour period? No I don't. So I think you see my delimma.

No offense taken. It's a hot topic that we are both giving our feelings on.

I had to do that...

It is a delimma for me, I'm not saying you have to respond to it. I was on the fence about paying 8k so I thought well, I'll get I in on the standard it'll be a little cheaper with a couple things taken out of it. Here's the standard at the same price? Wtf?

This is exactly what I think. It's a scam to generate fear that it won't be available tomorrow.

I haven't made a penny off of pinball. Not sure who this post was directed at.

Ok Vex if that happens let me know. I appreciate the response.

As a company would you rather sell 1000- pins at $10000 or 2000+ pins at $8000. It's simple math. It's not underpriced. You don't wanna price potential buyers out by hitting the ceiling price on a game.

Well besides the clearcoat, and plaque and legs and siderails and being made a half a year earlier. Other than that they are the same.

Oh yeah.. And the shaker lol

I brought this point up yesterday. How is it a good deal when these guys are just manufacturing a previously released pin? They don't have to pay anyone to do art, code or invent parts. The hard work is done they just build it and sell it. It's apples and oranges compared to Stern. Stern have to build from the ground up and charge less. (And no I'm not letting Stern off the hook for unfinished code) Also comparing the price on the private owner market is pointless, I don't blame PPS for making money but there is no way their overhead will be as much as Stern's. You'd also think the more they sell the better deal they could give but they just dropped it on everyone like a bombshell instead of doing the research and finding out how many people would be interested. If they got a list of people before they could have come up with a price point to have a lot more than a 1000 sold but also cashed in 2 to 3 times the amount of what they are gonna make now.

Well most mass produced products are at a discounted price when more are ordered. So making 2000 playfields parts, and cabs is cheaper than only making 1000. Usually but who knows the contracts they have made with manufacturers.

I'm not confusing the two. I'm questioning how any customer that is in on the preorder can seriously look at this as a good deal. I believe it's about right on price. A good deal? Not so much. I'm all for a company making a profit but it shouldn't be confused that they are hooking us up when I would bet they are pulling in more than Stern on a single pin sale which is fine but not a great deal by any means. It's not like they are doing this for very little profit like the Skit-B guys.

This was a comment listening to people go on about how great of a deal 8k for a pin is.

I don't think Andy Dufraine would approve of spending 8k on MMR. He was a smart banker after all.

How many BBB are in existence? Not even comparable

Sorry, it went over my head. Nothing to see here people... Move along!

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If they release more we will.

Good job taking my post out of context. I never said they were screwing anyone as a matter of fact I said the 8k was right on point, just not a smoking deal.

Not really ironic. I'm sorry I can't get my point through. It doesn't matter this whole thing is exhausting.

That's probably true but wouldn't be the case if they dropped the price about $250-500.