It really only adds a few games to the speculation and they have already been discussed for a long time now.

BBB, KP, WB. Is there really anything else that IPB owned worth remaking?

Hopefully this means more TAF parts as they are desired by many. I am guessing this means more parts but also higher prices. This is a business for PPS and they want to make as much $$$ as they can. They are now the ONLY one legally available to make parts.

Funny how these companies tie each other up legally on all sorts of stuff for years with back and forth stuff and now PPS buys out Gene in the end. I hope Gene puts pen to paper and writes some sort of excerpt of truth and history of pinball part manufacturing (not sure if he is capable of this or even knows the truth anymore). Probably a pretty interesting read.

Even if BBB is not being remade, all current games likely just took a huge hit based on the idea/perception that it will happen in the future.

I know 1 thing is certain, guys who own high dollar games tend to have some insider knowledge and LOTS of BBB are up for sale in the past few months. Tells me everything I need to know.

IPB does not have all the rights needed to make TAF PFs which means PPS does not have all the rights either.

For how big of a proponent Rick is on copyprotected material I can only assume he would not be a hypocrite and produce TAF pfs without consent and paying fees.

In other words, it is still unlikely that TAF pfs will get done and if they do it will be years from now.

After 2 years of being lied to by Gene/IPB I did my research, came to the conclusion that TAF pfs will likely never be made again, wisely bought a restorable one, and made peace with the fact that the best game ever may eventually die due to stupid liscence holder protecting their assests of dead people (well that and the comforate that I now have a super nice TAF with better than new original pf rather than some crap remake).

Yes, I know that IPB made TAF pf reproduction in the past. That last run was a LONG time ago and they were not rerun for a reason. From my understanding it will be difficult to LEGALLY rerun them in the future.

I hope they do vid.

My understanding was that the 10 year liscence is now expired and there were difficulties with reaquiring. I am guessing those difficulties were Gene??? Maybe now with PPS being the sole owner it will get done. I would think anyone is smart enough to know that TAF is the number 1 game in need of new pfs so Rick will likely follow that money.

Good news for TAF owners. Hopefully Rick can get the job done quickly, unlike the other big parts guys overseas.

Would like to get a nice new translite also, so hopefully those get done.

Everyone except Tony seems to understand this reality.

Someone looking to maximize profit may just decide to make a limited run of 200 and sell them for 12k each?

5000 profit on 200 games is the same as 1000 profit on 1000 games and less total work to get there.

Tony thinks if he says it loud enough and enough times that he will change peoples beliefs. He is hoping this will buy him a few more months of flipping BBB for a profit. He is just a little sad because yet another game that was the life blood of his flipping has dried up.

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I want in on this action to. Teekee, what sort of odds are you giving?

If you are so confident then maybe this can be a replacement for the $ you are now losing on future sales of the original remake BBBs.

lets make this happen.

If he does not take the bet then we all see the reality that is Tony. the sad sad reality of a flipper gone mad ;(

So you are saying you are not so confident anymore?

This sounds like a very fair bet, but I would move it down to the 5th remake.

Here is a very real statement.

There are very few reasons why anyone would buy up all the crap that Gene had, and those motivations are to get and use the few gems to make more $$$.

You do the math, there is a reason that PPS can over the top with an offer large enough to buy it all at once. The reason was not to buy 400 junk games to flip for a small profit.

Yup. Rick just trolled all of pinside.

give it a few years and see what your body says...

I meant the taco hell, not normal good mex food

Do you think if you repeat it enough people will start to belieb you?

You still won't take any bets on the issue so it seems like you are just spewing BS as typical.

You do realize you are the only one that can easily and quickly put an end to it...

No need to commit to anything.

A simple statement of:
"PPS has no plans in the forseeable future to produce BBBR"
or
"PPS will be looking in to the feasablity of making the following games as a remake after MMr > BBB, KP, MB, AFM, and CC"

would end people claimimng that BBB will/will not be made.

However, I can only imagine that Rick prefers as much ambiguity as possible. Uncertainty only means positive things for Rick and his business. It means people may just hold out on buying some other expensive pin (more money on hold to see what comes next). It means fewer people willl jump out of MMr in foavor of the next thing coming down the pipe.

I will be buying my first NIB game at $4750.

Luckily there are a few smaller manufacturers of games that are keeping sale price lower (Spooky and AMH), and now their major hurdle is getting them built. They will get that figured out in the next year and hopefully it can mean good things for them and pinball.

The 8k NIB model is not sustainable and the 2ndary market should tell you all you need to know. With many new LEs of the recent games not selling and sitting in boxes and many HUO now trading hands already (before the next hot thing hits) for 1k or greater loss... The high end pinball market is dropping quickly. Heck, just measure the amount of frantic post TeeKee makes and it will tell you all you need to know about the doom and gloom of the high end flipper market.

This thread was at its best when talking about mexcian food.

True but there should be ways to build in for these differences. Games already track every switch hit, R, C, L drain so there coudl be a relatively simple equation to help simplify things and handicap as needed.

I know I woudl really enjoy the aspect of playing against family or friends form miles away all linked up onto the same table. Of course it take an honor system and wont be perfect. However, it could still be really fun.