One of the reason that "a lot" of people like the early 60s WMS EMs
is that they are great "nudger" games.
'63 Big Deal has 4 drop targets and Eager Beaver has 3 of them and Palooka 5 of 'em.
The last two with classic Stenholm artwork.
But the VFW hall is primarily for your collection, so
I defer to your choices as you see fit.
Quoted from Jimmyhonda:Any news of people bringing games that may not be on your game list Clay? Also, do people sell machines at your show? Thanks!
Rumor has it that a Total Nuclear Annihilation will be there.
I've come each year since the first, culminating with bringing 12 additional people last year. Has turned into one of my most enjoyable family outings. Unfortunately, looks like I missed out this year. My work will only approve vacation requests 45 days in advance. Got approved hours after Clay advised all the tickets were sold 
If anyone finds they have two extra tickets for Friday, I'm your huckleberry.
Fingers crossed.
Quoted from Rody:My work will only approve vacation requests 45 days in advance.
So if you were to get married and plan a honeymoon, in June;
your work would not approve it until mid April??
Heck if you do not buy plane tickets at least 2 months in advance,
you get raped on the price or availability most times.
Should have bought VFW tix on speculation, then resold if you could not get the time off.
Correct, 45 days notice is what I have to work with. Could I have bought tickets ahead of time, yes. Don't like the thought of taking a spot not knowing if I could truly commit. I look at the mess that replay FX has with the pinburgh tournament and people buying spots for friends just to refund them later, doesn't seem morally correct to me.
If someone needs a ticket or two let me know. i get people that return tickets because their work/vacation/life has changed, and they can't come.
Tom if you really want 60s williams games, why don't you gift us some or sell at a nice price?? you gave a boatload to the PPM and what have they done with that stuff? pretty much just put it in storage or sold it.
Quoted from cfh:f someone needs a ticket or two let me know. i get people that return tickets because their work/vacation/life has changed, and they can't come.
If you get one ticket for the EM tournament on Friday I love to get one. Thanks Clay!
I was at the PPM annex last week,
They do have about 300 pins set up to play at the annex
along with about 100 pins at the museum itself,
admittedly most of those belong to Mike or Larry Z.
And you are correct that they have not set up (for play) many of my donated pins,
but most were in my storage for years and will need a bit of going over to get them ready for play.
I have donated >250 pins to them over the past 3 tax years,
they have not sold any of my donated machines yet
(the plan is not to sell any, except for doubles).
They have gotten a few shopped and are now set up at the museum or the annex.
Like GTB TimeLine and Jungle Princess and BLY Frontier and WMS Cosmic GunFight to name a few.
But I would like to see more of the 1960s era WMS EMs set up for play.
I do not want to be an "indian giver"; so what the PPM now has in their possession will likely stay there
and since the WMS reverse wedgeheads were some of my favorites,
most of those have not yet been officially donated.
But I will see what I can do about games still in my possession
or talk to Mike about any overflow that the PPM might not be able to handle.
Can't make any promises though.
Your collection at the VFW is awesome and nearly all are in very good playable
working condition and well maintained.
Every pinball venue or museum or arcade should strive for what you have accomplished.
I do have one EM of yours. Mike gifted it to us (it was a huge argument, but in the end, they did the right thing.) We don't want 250. hell we don't want even 25. but there are some we've been looking for a *long* time. Cosmic Gunfight is certainly one. but we would gladly take about 5 to 10 williams 1960s reverse wedgies/single players if they were available.
I've had a huge argument with Mike (and Tim A) over numbers. It is impractical to have more than 200 machines in a working daily museum. I know because we have 400 !! it's an incredible amount of work to keep those numbers maintained. And to just have 800 to 1000 machine in storage is DUMB. what is the point??? how much does that cost???? Mike is in San Fran where real estate is a zillion dollars. They're never going to own enough property to set up that many machines. They've already been kicked out of one building. And they almost got kicked out of their current property! Their monthly "nut" is like 5 figures!!! Tim A is in a slightly better position because he has banked money and could buy more space. But at nearly 65 years old, that seems silly at best. These guys should be divesting their collections at this point, not increasing them. Why are they paying to store (on ass end) 800 to 1000 machines, given how much it costs??? is reality not a thing that they can deal with? Or are they moving to a less expensive area? questions i ask, with no apparent answers....
If anyone cares, these are some games we've been looking for, without success. It's not a huge list, and frankly some aren't really that rare either. But others are really rare...
1977 Zaccaria Aerobatics EM pinball
1978 Zaccaria Queen's Castle EM pinball
1978 Zaccaria Ski Jump EM pinball
1977 Zaccaria Nautilus EM pinball
1976 Zaccaria Combat EM pinball
1977 Zaccaria Supersonic EM pinball
1986 Zaccaria/Tecnoplay Scramble pinball
1987 Zaccaria/Tecnoplay X Force pinball
1987 Zaccaria Spooky pinball
1968 Bally Joker EM pinball
1967 Bally Rocket III EM pinball
1960s reverse wedgehead Williams
1977 Sonic Butterfly EM pinball
1977 Sonic Joker's Wild EM pinball
1978 Sonic Birdman EM pinball
1978 Sonic Jai Alai EM pinball
1985 Sonic Odin Deluxe EM pinball
1980 Hankin Empire Strikes Back pinball
1980 Hankin Shark pinball
1989 Dataeast Playboy 35th Anniversary pinball
1998 Sega Godzilla pinball
1989 Gottlieb/Premier Lights Camera Action pinball
1991 Gottlieb/Premier Cactus Jack pinball
1982 Bally Mr & Mrs Pacman pinball
1987 Bally Dungeons & Dragons pinball
1982 Williams Defender pinball
1982 Williams Cosmic Gunfight pinball
Quoted from cfh:If anyone cares, these are some games we've been looking for, without success. It's not a huge list, and frankly some aren't really that rare either. But others are really rare...
1977 Zaccaria Aerobatics EM pinball
1978 Zaccaria Queen's Castle EM pinball
1978 Zaccaria Ski Jump EM pinball
1977 Zaccaria Nautilus EM pinball
1976 Zaccaria Combat EM pinball
1977 Zaccaria Supersonic EM pinball
1986 Zaccaria/Tecnoplay Scramble pinball
1987 Zaccaria/Tecnoplay X Force pinball
1987 Zaccaria Spooky pinball
1968 Bally Joker EM pinball
1967 Bally Rocket III EM pinball
1960s reverse wedgehead Williams
1977 Sonic Butterfly EM pinball
1977 Sonic Joker's Wild EM pinball
1978 Sonic Birdman EM pinball
1978 Sonic Jai Alai EM pinball
1985 Sonic Odin Deluxe EM pinball
1980 Hankin Empire Strikes Back pinball
1980 Hankin Shark pinball
1989 Dataeast Playboy 35th Anniversary pinball
1998 Sega Godzilla pinball
1989 Gottlieb/Premier Lights Camera Action pinball
1991 Gottlieb/Premier Cactus Jack pinball
1982 Bally Mr & Mrs Pacman pinball
1987 Bally Dungeons & Dragons pinball
1982 Williams Defender pinball
1982 Williams Cosmic Gunfight pinball
Dayhuff had a Playboy for sale, not sure if he still does.
Quoted from Whysnow:I have these but only for trade...
To bad your are banned from the State of Michigan. Maybe someone can trade you a car full of hoodies in the state just south.
Quoted from MotorCityMatt:To bad your are banned from the State of Michigan. Maybe someone can trade you a car full of hoodies in the state just south.
you MI guys are cute...
Quoted from paddlepaw:Ooooooooo Is that Firefly gonna be ready? I'm excited.
Is Firefly a real game? I don't see it on IPDB.
Quoted from MikeO:Is Firefly a real game? I don't see it on IPDB.
From the Harry Williams design archives. The IPDB is not the be-all, end-all....
Quoted from MrBally:From the Harry Williams design archives. The IPDB is not the be-all, end-all....
Was this game set up as a whitewood last year?
Quoted from MikeO:Was this game set up as a whitewood last year?
No. That was Typhoon.
hey! I heard that there was going to be a saturday night tourney. how come you haven't posted any information on this? is a "secret" tournament?
ps
I also heard that the VFW members running this supposed secret tourney are really cool
Quoted from swillie:Look for my crappy white Jeep. I'm bringing some Boss Tweed if I don't kill it all by then, what an awesome beer.
At least one of the guys that make Old Nation beers will be there with me (I'm a pro brewer as well and I usually have about 4-8 other pro brewers with me). Last year Boss Tweed had just been released and we drank it all day during parking lot breaks. We always bring a lot of good beer with us. And yes, that means Pabst (along with a lot of other stuff).
Would Pinsiders like to pick a time on Saturday to have a meet and greet together? Just step out front or whatever and say hello. I'd love to be able to put names and faces together! I'm just throwing it out there.
Can't wait!
Quoted from cfh:If someone needs a ticket or two let me know. i get people that return tickets because their work/vacation/life has changed, and they can't come.
I’ll take one. Friday night if possible.
Quoted from SilverBallKid:At least one of the guys that make Old Nation beers will be there with me (I'm a pro brewer as well and I usually have about 4-8 other pro brewers with me). Last year Boss Tweed had just been released and we drank it all day during parking lot breaks. We always bring a lot of good beer with us. And yes, that means Pabst (along with a lot of other stuff).
Would Pinsiders like to pick a time on Saturday to have a meet and greet together? Just step out front or whatever and say hello. I'd love to be able to put names and faces together! I'm just throwing it out there.
Can't wait!
Boss Tweed is great. M-43 is no slouch either. Love the hazy IPAs.
Quoted from Bax1:Secret tourney? Do you need to know a secret handshake to get in?
No, you need the secret decoder ring. Then use it on Clays's posts.
But also have to know which ring to use on each post.
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Quoted from SilverBallKid:At least one of the guys that make Old Nation beers will be there with me (I'm a pro brewer as well and I usually have about 4-8 other pro brewers with me). Last year Boss Tweed had just been released and we drank it all day during parking lot breaks. We always bring a lot of good beer with us. And yes, that means Pabst (along with a lot of other stuff).
Would Pinsiders like to pick a time on Saturday to have a meet and greet together? Just step out front or whatever and say hello. I'd love to be able to put names and faces together! I'm just throwing it out there.
Can't wait!
I’m down for a time to meet up. If you are a brewer there, could you sneak out some growlers of creamsicle or strawberry tart m43? Had it at Ashley’s during throw down and it was amazing!!!! Wish you guys would can that!!!
Tried M-43 for the first time back in January when I visited a Brighton friend. Probably the best IPA I've ever tasted, especially since I'm not a fan of the piney west coast stuff. Definitely gonna track some of that down on VFW weekend.
Quoted from yancy:Tried M-43 for the first time back in January when I visited a Brighton friend. Probably the best IPA I've ever tasted, especially since I'm not a fan of the piney west coast stuff. Definitely gonna track some of that down on VFW weekend.
Most Meijer and Kroger carry it now and have the best prices. just stop there.
good thing you need a decoder ring since I have mine from ovaltine!! that means I can get in.
as for a time to meet up. if I am not going to be in the tournament, I will be in the parking lot at 9:30 starting with a kbs since it is a breakfast stout 
Quoted from Bax1:good thing you need a decoder ring since I have mine from ovaltine!! that means I can get in.
as for a time to meet up. if I am not going to be in the tournament, I will be in the parking lot at 9:30 starting with a kbs since it is a breakfast stout
Save me one!
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