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(removed) Screwed me over

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#1 2 years ago

ELK

Pinbub

Pinside member

Modesto, CA

9y 56,300 927 18

I purchased a Gottlieb Soccer pinball from Andrew Harris in Richmond CA. The price for the machine was $375. I offered $325. I was told by Andrew that his price was firm. I reviewed the pictures and decided to pay his price. That was partially based on the fact that the back box door was included, as shown in the pictures.

I put down a $50 deposit and told him I would pay the rest when the machine was picked up. I told him the day I made the deposit that I would be out of town for about a week. I was traveling to Reno for my wife's birthday. Andrew grumbled about machines that were sold,but hadn't been picked up yet.

I offered to have the machine picked up by my parents. Mostly as a favor to him as he was bitching about sold machines that were still sitting at his place.

Now Andrew Harris won't return any correspondence. He's ghosting me. I had my parents going close enough to him to pick up the back box cover TODAY.

Andrew Harris, you were firm on your price. Could I get everything that was included in the sale? If you think I'm letting this go you'd be wrong. I'll be wearing a shirt about what a douche you are at the next west coast show weather it be GSPF or CAX.

Is it too hard to do what's right?
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#2 2 years ago

ELK

Pinbub

Pinside member

Modesto, CA

9y 56,300 927 18

#Andrew Harris Andrew Harris

#3 2 years ago

YBX

yancy

Pinside member

West Dundee, IL

11y 122K 7,201 25

Maybe sold it to someone else for double in this market. I wouldn't let a game that cheap sit for a week, deposit or no. Things happen.

Anyway, popcorn popping. These threads seldom go well.

#4 2 years ago

KJS

Mudflaps

Pinside+ Frequent

Springfield, VA

11y 181K 8,671 5

This thread will vanish, but at any rate, it’s extremely inappropriate to dox someone when you have a disagreement. Why publish his picture? What are you trying to do?

#5 2 years ago

???

Jeffswack

Pinside member

Mars, PA

5y 62,050 283 6 15

Note to self. Don't do business with OP as he acts kinda like a creep if he feels jilted

Post last edited 2 years ago: “Hahahaha”

#6 2 years ago

BJD

roffels

Pinside member

Minneapolis, MN

10y 85,300 1,992 3 20

So, did you get the game or not? Sounded like you got it yesterday.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-graffiti-

#7 2 years ago

???

JethroP

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6y 101K 3,130 9 14 1

Sounds like the OP put down $50 and is being ghosted. I'd be pissed too.

#8 2 years ago

TJD

elcolonel

Pinside member

Dacula, GA

8y 62,550 1,810 3 12 5

It appears he is missing the back door. Not clear from his rant here, but from the graffiti post he started, it appears the game is in his possession.

#9 2 years ago

TDK

TDK-WPG

Pinside member

Winnipeg, MB

6y 58,800 298 1

Quoted from yancy:
Anyway, popcorn popping.

Just poured a beer to go with your popcorn @yancy!

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#10 2 years ago

ELK

Pinbub

Pinside member

Modesto, CA

9y 56,300 927 18

Quoted from JethroP:
Sounds like the OP put down $50 and is being ghosted. I'd be pissed too.

I paid the deposit and HE agreed to have it picked up a week later. I only had it picked up earlier to help HIM out because he was bitching. If any of you made a deal and didn't get everything in the deal included you'd be crying like babies as well
Don't act like you wouldn't be pissed if everything shown IN THE AD wasn't included.

If you are so unethical that you'd sell something without EVERYTHING you showed in the ad than you're as big a douche as ANDREW HARRIS. Don't act like you wouldn't be pissed at a failed deal.

So I guess given the responses so far I know who I shouldn't deal with. Are you people kidding me?

So you people who disagree feel likes it's justified to include things in a deal that you don't include?

Please send me your name or picture so I can punch you in the throat next time you're on the west coast.Thieves are scum, if you align yourself with scum, you're scum too.

This post was moderated 2 years ago: Inflammatory posting A temporary (30 days) all forums eject was issued.

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#11 2 years ago

ELK

Pinbub

Pinside member

Modesto, CA

9y 56,300 927 18

Not a rant, it's a rip off. Who wants to step up and claim their glad not to get everything included in a deal.

Paid for everything shown. Didn't get everything shown. Seriously who would put up with that? Please be the first to say your happy with everything not included in a deal. You shit stirring bastards would be PISSED, as would anyone with half a fucking brain.

This post was moderated 2 years ago: Inflammatory posting

#12 2 years ago

?Z?

phishrace

Pinside member

Unknown

12y 46,900 4,913

You agreed to buy a game without seeing it in person. That's an invitation to disaster. I realize you're in a relative pinball desert, but if you choose to do long distance purchases, these things are going to happen. Hope you get it straightened out.

#13 2 years ago

CHD

Cheddar

GoldenStatePin

Lodi, CA

11y 117K 5,180 17 10

Did your parents pick it up? The back has to come off to remove the head, did they know that? Would they ask for that?

I've dealt with Andrew many times and I can't imagine him screwing someone over for a door. Why he's not responding to you I can't say.

#14 2 years ago

JJB

jbovenzi

Pinside+ Addict

Sparks, NV

8y 112K 1,382 34

Disclaimer: I'm a good friend of Andrew.

Are you mostly unhappy about not getting the back box door? I have seen that machine for months and it's a bargain at the price he sold it for.

Did you want me to see if I can help you get the door as I'm in the Bay Area with him?

#15 2 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from Cheddar:
why he's not responding to you I can't say.

Would you ?!

Can only imagine the Insane messages mr Harris is getting from mr. sunshine.

#16 2 years ago

YBX

yancy

Pinside member

West Dundee, IL

11y 122K 7,201 25

Quoted from elcolonel:
It appears he is missing the back door. Not clear from his rant here, but from the graffiti post he started, it appears the game is in his possession.

Ah, now I get it. Thanks!

#17 2 years ago

DAV

adol75

Pinside member

San Francisco, CA

5y 57,300 2,076 2

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
Please send me your name or picture so I can punch you in the throat next time you're on the west coast.Thieves are scum, if you align yourself with scum, you're scum too.

Lovely ! Whatever problem you have with that guy, it does seem to me that you are a bit of a freak.

#18 2 years ago

YBX

yancy

Pinside member

West Dundee, IL

11y 122K 7,201 25

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
Please send me your name or picture so I can punch you in the throat next time you're on the west coast

Yikes man. It's Friday afternoon. Have a drink, put this out of your mind, enjoy your weekend, try to contact him again Monday. Life's too short to punch throats over a backbox door.

#19 2 years ago

CLY

Yesh23

Pinside+ Frequent

Indian Land, SC

9y 129K 2,515 9 32 4

OP. maybe you should be patient…. Just like you were traveling to Reno, maybe Andrew is traveling. I don’t someone wants to scare you out of the back panel for a <$400 machine. Try having some patience and not being a douche yourself by posting somebody’s picture. I hope you guys can resolve this issue

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#20 2 years ago

GSP

GoldenStatePin

Lodi, CA

6y 32,300 90

#21 2 years ago

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

File under potential bad ideas: sending my parents to go pick up a pinball machine.

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#22 2 years ago

ELK

Pinbub

Pinside member

Modesto, CA

9y 56,300 927 18

Quoted from jbovenzi:
Disclaimer: I'm a good friend of Andrew.
Are you mostly unhappy about not getting the back box door? I have seen that machine for months and it's a bargain at the price he sold it for.
Did you want me to see if I can help you get the door as I'm in the Bay Area with him?

I've met you at the flipper room. I don't want drama, I never meant for it to come to this. I just want what I paid for. I contacted Andrew for 3 days and I got no response. I get that people aren't online daily but I've done business on line since 1999. If you're actively selling stuff, check in on w and then.

I just want my back door. I offered to have it picked up today, seller didn't respond. Now I'll burn another $60 in gas to pick it up. Funny how things become a priority when people get called out.k

#23 2 years ago

QRK

Deez

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12y 139K 6,778 13

Love the big energy here. Total alpha stuff bro. Unacceptable to be shorted a piece of flimsy metal.

#24 2 years ago

KAR

northerndude

Pinside+ Frequent

7y 112K 4,759 21

In before the lock.

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#25 2 years ago

ELK

Pinbub

Pinside member

Modesto, CA

9y 56,300 927 18

I'm trying to delete the drama. I'm dealing with Andrew now. I just want I paid for. I think it might have been an oversight on his end but I contact him for 3 days without a response I get a little edgy. I just want what I paid for. I'm not an ass but if I don't get what I paid for and get ghosted for 2 days I get a little up tight.

#26 2 years ago

JJB

jbovenzi

Pinside+ Addict

Sparks, NV

8y 112K 1,382 34

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
I've met you at the flipper room. I don't want drama, I never meant for it to come to this. I just want what I paid for. I contacted Andrew for 3 days and I got no response. I get that people aren't online daily but I've done business on line since 1999. If you're actively selling stuff, check in on w and then.
I just want my back door. I offered to have it picked up today, seller didn't respond. Now I'll burn another $60 in gas to pick it up. Funny how things become a priority when people get called out.k

I just texted Andrew and the door is waiting there for you. It got lost in the shuffle and he's ok with you (or parents) picking it up.

Just to be helpful, he just got freaked by the interchange. Stuff happens.

#27 2 years ago

MEZ

meSz

Pinside member

12y 102K 7,400

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
I don't want drama,

That went out the window when you posted here!

Certainly understand you being upset over not getting what you paid for but two days is not a lot of time. As others eluded too maybe Andrew had something come up. These days with all that's going on pinball is not at the top of everyone's list.

Quoted from jbovenzi:
I just texted Andrew and the door is waiting there for you. It got lost in the shuffle and he's ok with you (or parents) picking it up.

Just to be helpful, he just got freaked by the interchange. Stuff happens.

and problem solved

Post last edited 2 years ago: “updated”

#28 2 years ago

TPD

tomdrum

Tom's Pinball

Port Matilda, PA

6y 165K 7,315 16 52

I can understand your wanting what you paid for. Probably just a simple mistake, be patient it will work out. It could be worse, you could of the gotten the rat shit NBA Fastbreak:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-machine-arrived-rodent-droppings-amp-urine-in-cabinet-now-what#post-6822332

#29 2 years ago

BUD

BudManPinFan

Pinside member

7y 71,050 1,333 3

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
So you people who disagree feel likes it's justified to include things in a deal that you don't include?

I don’t think people think this as much as they disagree with how you're going about trying to resolve the issue. It could be a simple mistake and you’re calling him out to be a total scumbag. Why don’t you give him a fair opportunity to try and correct this before going totally nuclear.

Post last edited 2 years ago: “Problem resolved, an apology is in order”

#30 2 years ago

COS

cosmokramer

Pinside member

11y 120K 8,453

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#31 2 years ago

TPD

tomdrum

Tom's Pinball

Port Matilda, PA

6y 165K 7,315 16 52

Pinbub, when you pick that door up, I'd bring him a Filet-o-fish as an apology.

#32 2 years ago

???

curiusgeorge

Inactive member

Omaha, NE

5y 26,650 56

Good Lord. So now you were doing him a favor by picking it up early when he agreed to hold it a week for you, you had your parents pick it up from all indicators, which I'm assuming means they have no idea how to remove the head for transport, so we can assume he did this for you also. During that time, the backdoor gets missed or misplaced as people can make mistakes. Considering your responses here, I cringe to think what you sent to the seller.

#33 2 years ago

OMW

Seamlesswall

Pinside member

Dorset, VT

10y 39,200 695 3

Wow, If I ranted like this for all the beyond bad things that have happened to me in my life, you'd have to spend a couple of days reading my thread. Move on to the next screwed up thing that will happen to you, believe me it's non stop, and learn from it.

#34 2 years ago

CWB

Charliew65

Pinside member

11y 96,300 1,178

I imagine you will be embarrassed when you look back and read your own thread. A real tough guy that gives out throat punches.

#35 2 years ago

JON

bigehrl

Jackbar

New York, NY

12y 97,150 3,829 79

Quoted from Cheddar:
Why he's not responding to you I can't say.

i can.

#36 2 years ago

Monk

Pinside member

7y 93,800 1,911 21

OP needs to chill out a bit. Take a breath and relax for a day or two, it’s the weekend.

#37 2 years ago

CLY

Yesh23

Pinside+ Frequent

Indian Land, SC

9y 129K 2,515 9 32 4

Op needs to change the title of this thread and apologize to the seller.

#38 2 years ago

CHD

Cheddar

GoldenStatePin

Lodi, CA

11y 117K 5,180 17 10

Quoted from bigehrl:
i can.

Why? I don't see him active on pinside

#39 2 years ago

WTS

ypurchn

Pinside member

7y 76,050 1,584 11

Is anyone else kinda-sorta hoping this missing piece is just ever so slightly misshapen so that it doesn’t match up perfectly?

#40 2 years ago

???

nicoy3k

Pinside member

Acton, MA

3y 66,050 3,025 1 14

Maybe your parents flipped the door for a profit

#41 2 years ago

VNO

Vino

Pinside+ Addict

8y 168K 6,137 59 3

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
I'll be wearing a shirt about what a douche you are at the next west coast show

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
I don't want drama, I never meant for it to

Ok.

#42 2 years ago

???

romulusx

Pinside member

Evansvile, IN

12y 110K 7,532 11

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
Not a rant, it's a rip off. Who wants to step up and claim their glad not to get everything included in a deal.
Paid for everything shown. Didn't get everything shown. Seriously who would put up with that? Please be the first to say your happy with everything not included in a deal. You shit stirring bastards would be PISSED, as would anyone with half a fucking brain.

Could you play Misty for me?

#43 2 years ago

JMR

Only_Pinball

Pinside+ Frequent

9y 141K 3,617 6

I just want a Filet-O-Fish!

#44 2 years ago

Damen

Pinside member

San Jose, CA

4y 35,550 263 2

Sounds like the rant of a man with no friends to help him pick up a machine!

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#45 2 years ago

BRI

BriannaWu

Pinside+ Frequent

Dedham, MA

2y 53,800 324 10 40

OP
Quoted from Pinbub:
Please send me your name or picture so I can punch you in the throat next time you're on the west coast.Thieves are scum, if you align yourself with scum, you're scum too.

I often peruse Pinside because it’s less toxic than Twitter.

#46 2 years ago

JIG

Jigs

Charleston Pin Repair

Mount Pleasant, SC

10y 45,050 608

Throatpunch!

What a tool.

#47 2 years ago

ROB

RCA1

Pinside+ Addict

St Joseph, MI

11y 128K 8,679 28 11

I'm not sure that this thread is sending the message that the OP intended to the rest of us.

#48 2 years ago

MJM

wisefwumyogwave

Pinside member

9y 108K 1,861 35

I've accidentally sold a game to someone with the back door left behind, happens as you're talking pinball smack and need to remove it to remove head bolts and whatnot. Always a PIA but not like this. Yikes!

#49 2 years ago

SEF

practicalsteve

GoldenStatePin

El Cerrito, CA

12y 104K 7,623 5

I have know Andrew for years and he is a very stand up guy. Has helped me move pins, lent me tools, given me parts for free and is a great friend. He is a stand up dude and I always tell people don’t hesitate to deal with him and would continue to do so.

#50 2 years ago

FKU

PinBallPeteFromSD

The Coop

8y 85,050 453 20 1 3

Andrew Harris for the win on how to stack your project pins.

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