Genuine question... why do people give a shit what others do to their pins? I'm not into clown puke at all, but if someone chooses to do that to their own pin, where's the issue?

Fair and interesting analogy.
-Mike

If I had the purchase price paid for every horrible LED lamp I removed from every game I bought, I could buy another pin. Someday I'll list the bag of colored LED's on eBay.

This thread is weird...

Again, it's their choice, as much as it's your choice not to do it/buy it.

You can vent here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/no-rainbow-puke-club-post-pics-of-worst-color-gi-fails/page/140#post-6763724

I'm not sure I fully understand the cargument.
Can you explain your point through a kitchen appliance analogy?

No he can’t.

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This thread blows. Zero stars.

Are your impressions of clown puke pins only from photographs? Or have you seen some in person?

LEDs are very difficult to photograph well, and especially in dim lighting. The high intensity of the LEDs makes the camera reduce its exposure, drastically changing the appearance of the other elements in the scene. The human eye can handle these adjacent large differences in brightness far better than even the best cameras.

Certainly, using colored LEDs for GI changes the look of the artwork. But how it actually looks is certainly much different than what we see through cellphone cameras. The bloom and color richness is likely greatly exaggerated in photographs.

As with everything, taste is subjective. And if people saw these pins in person, I think their opinions wouldn't be so extreme.
I do have to say I haven't ever seen a clown puke pin so I can't really say for sure how it looks either. But I know for a fact that LEDs don't photograph well and it's very tricky to get a picture that accurately represents reality.

A few things, first, I like the paint job on that house and I would prefer to see a street of them than the cookie cutter stuff I usually see.

Second, colored leds behind back glass doesn’t work because the glass is already colored. I get what people are going for, but yeah, it just doesn’t work

When you do it with a playfield, a little bit goes a long way. You can overdo it, though I think you kinda cherry-picked images where the led lights caused the camera to darken the rest of the photo. I doubt any of these look this way in real life.

Finally, if you don’t like it, so what? You can probably replace all the leds with warm white non ghosting for less than $100, much less than that for incandescent bulbs. Don’t pay more for the leds, but it’s like repainting the walls of a new home and not that huge of a deal in my opinion…

So your biggest ‘harm’ is that you have to pay $100 to de-led a pin you bought. A pin, mind you, that sells for several times the price you would have paid a few years back. Nobody cares.

Literally no pinball owner said that. They said something to the effect of, 'I'd like to change the lighting on my game.' Then probably, 'That was a lot of work, I'm not re-doing that. Let the next owner deal with it.'

Also, photos poorly replicate what you see in person when it comes to pinball lighting.

And then you get the people that de led it to put incandescents in, which is let’s face it better for most backglasses and inserts if you haven’t got led ocd or Afterglow.
I mean who likes a strobe fest

This has all been discussed for years in the previous and expansive clown puke thread. No need to start a new one on the same topic.

You keep posting photos of colored leds in the dark. I’ll keep saying that leds photo bad, especially in the dark.

And by all means negotiate the led replacement in the buying price, but since this is a sellers market, you might not get it, just like you probably aren’t going to get a home seller to pay to repaint a home you want to buy.

Also, the Beatles broke up pushing fifty years ago now. If someone played a Yoko Ono album, most people are probably not going to even recognize it.

This thread blows clown puke!

If you don't like the clown puke pin, don't buy it. If you choose to buy it, don't fkn whinge about it.

It sucks playing them on location.

I think I've come across one which was way over the top, Black Pyramid, really poorly lit with big bright colourful legs everywhere. In a dark bar it was a nightmare to play so moved to the next pin... But yep, on location when you have no control it sucks. Luckily there rest of the pins were fine.

In person, they probably look great. The intensity of leds do not agree with digital sensors, always boosting saturation and vibrancy well beyond how they appear in person.

I never said they don't, it's not something I like or do. Again it's everyones own choice to do what they want with their pins. If you don't want to buy it, or play it, don't.

You are so wrong!

Internet is 99% porn and 1% whining, porn everywhere

first world problems

Yeah, no shit. I just do what the OP said a few posts up, repurpose under the playfield. I enjoy working on my games, I don't consider it a chore.

I'm not a big fan ... any game coming into the house is played checked for faults and then completely shopped.
Extra cost sure but all part of the game ...

I see what you did there!

I remember LEDs being a point of debate when I first got into the hobby and did a quick search on LED bulbs in the forums and 8,10,12 years ago game owners were stoked about changing their incandescent bulbs to colored GI and back glasses. I would guess most of the games in question were “clowned” years ago. I mean how often do you see a solid state game with incandescent bulbs still in it? I mean I don’t care for it either, but are people still doing this?

Is the pope Catholic?

Of course they are. And they should as they desire. Pinball games are too expensive not to enjoy as you wish. Lighting type and LED color choices (like house paint colors, etc.) are subjective and can be changed later if desired. One person's "clown puke" is another's perfect lighting upgrade.

Those who concern themselves with other pinheads' game mod preferences would be better off focusing on more important matters. Let it go and just appreciate your own games and hobby choices.

The internet is dead. It’s only like 10 sites any more all controlled by advertising bots.
Pinside’s site is the last of the “old internet”

“Honest question” always cracks me up.

I guess it means that every other question you ask is always dishonest bullshit?