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AFMR! PPS announced next remake!

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7 years ago


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#601 7 years ago
Quoted from Manimal:

I think a lot of folks agree. The AFM has the "cheese factor", but when I got to looking at what would offer them best long-term challenge, I picked Alien. Plus, there is a very talented team of Pinsiders working on the code, and I like the fact they are not in the shadows, and are vocal and proud of what they are doing. Alien will no doubt be one of the most complete and talked-about pins for some time.

As long as game 2 wasn't something I already have I was gonna get it, Was just hoping that something else didn't pop up before that.
after seeing alien, I jumped on the pre-order list. to nice of a game to pass up.
...still gonna get AFMR though

I'm not familiar with the term "cheese factor".
I think cheese can be good or bad maybe even somewhere in the middle.

#602 7 years ago

I agree the Alien announcement has to be a major blow to AFM remake sales. Anyone that likes this type of theme would be hard pressed not to really consider Alien 1st. Unless AFM rolls out with something totally revamped as rumors have touched on, Alien will surpass AFM sales in my opinion.

#603 7 years ago

Afm and alien are 2 totally different themes and are way different in the gameplay department.

#604 7 years ago
Quoted from mtdouble:

I agree the Alien announcement has to be a major blow to AFM remake sales. Anyone that likes this type of theme would be hard pressed not to really consider Alien 1st. Unless AFM rolls out with something totally revamped as rumors have touched on, Alien will surpass AFM sales in my opinion.

I'll get an AFM at some point, I doubt I'll even look at Alien. That's just me.

#605 7 years ago
Quoted from mtdouble:

I agree the Alien announcement has to be a major blow to AFM remake sales. Anyone that likes this type of theme would be hard pressed not to really consider Alien 1st. Unless AFM rolls out with something totally revamped as rumors have touched on, Alien will surpass AFM sales in my opinion.

With a confirmed manufacturing run # for AFM, we can even verify if this happens. Well, Andrew would have to be willing to share production numbers, but we have half the info.

#606 7 years ago
Quoted from hocuslocus:

As long as game 2 wasn't something I already have I was gonna get it, Was just hoping that something else didn't pop up before that.
after seeing alien, I jumped on the pre-order list. to nice of a game to pass up.
...still gonna get AFMR though
I'm not familiar with the term "cheese factor".
I think cheese can be good or bad maybe even somewhere in the middle.

"Cheese factor" = Cheesy, like a of the old alien/monster movies. BM66 is Cheesy......I'm not saying that is a bad thing, I grew up through that era, and that is the big reason I was considering AFM. But given I only have room for one more pin in my game room, I want best bang for the buck. We haven't seen pricing for AFM yet, but I don't think anyone here is going to put money down that it will be the same or cheaper than MMr....so assuming the cost stays up there, Alien is the obvious choice.

#607 7 years ago
Quoted from mtdouble:

I agree the Alien announcement has to be a major blow to AFM remake sales. Anyone that likes this type of theme would be hard pressed not to really consider Alien 1st. Unless AFM rolls out with something totally revamped as rumors have touched on, Alien will surpass AFM sales in my opinion.

I disagree that simply because the themes are sci-fi related that alone will make a difference. The themes are barely related - Alien is serious, almost horror sci-fi where AFMr is campy B-movie funny comic sci-fi.

Alien may still win on a value and code depth front, but theme "similarities" isn't going to be a significant issue for sales of either.

#608 7 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

Pinballstar Amusements is taking "preorders" sort of and posting this pic. Neat how they can use the bally logo on this repro,unlike not being able to use the williams one

All bally games can be remade using the bally trademark

That is a fact

Same as when bally remade Addams in 1994

#609 7 years ago

Would they just announce it already this is getting a little ridiculous

#610 7 years ago
Quoted from musketd:

Would they just announce it already this is getting a little ridiculous

It is announced. Do you mean you want all of the details, pricing, etc?

#611 7 years ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

It is announced. Do you mean you want all of the details, pricing, etc?

Yeah it's like all the details are some big secret just realease them already

#612 7 years ago
Quoted from Ballypinball:

All bally games can be remade using the bally trademark
That is a fact
Same as when bally remade Addams in 1994

Cool! I'd like to see Bally logos on the CCR art like on the regular production CC.

#613 7 years ago
Quoted from musketd:

Yeah it's like all the details are some big secret just realease them already

Texas - only one more week!

#614 7 years ago

Kaneda offered some exclusive details on his new podcast -

3 versions - classic edition / limited edition / collectors.

Limited and collectors editions will have a larger LCD screen and scaled up DMD color dots (original dots) classic edition will have standard trim (stainless) and the other 2 will have some version of colored trim. Sounds like they will all come with some version of the LED mods for the ships and the mothership (bill ung mod and GOZMOD style I assume?)

He indicated he got this info from a distributor who wishes to remain anonymous.

#615 7 years ago
Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Kaneda offered some exclusive details on his new podcast -
3 versions - classic edition / limited edition / collectors.
Limited and collectors editions will have a larger LCD screen and scaled up DMD color dots (original dots) classic edition will have standard trim (stainless) and the other 2 will have some version of colored trim. Sounds like they will all come with some version of the LED mods for the ships and the mothership (bill ung mod and GOZMOD style I assume?)
He indicated he got this info from a distributor who wishes to remain anonymous.

Will the aliens eyes light up on the new version ?

#616 7 years ago

Interactive topper is what I am most looking forward to see.

Not sure about the green trim yet.

#617 7 years ago
Quoted from Dkjimbo:

Limited and collectors editions will have a larger LCD screen and scaled up DMD color dots (original dots) classic edition will have standard trim (stainless) and the other 2 will have some version of colored trim. Sounds like they will all come with some version of the LED mods for the ships and the mothership (bill ung mod and GOZMOD style I assume?)

I think it's smart to offer a jazzed up version to offer an incentive to buy the remake as opposed to the original.

#618 7 years ago

Let's just hope pricing, supply and build quality at CGC are decent.

Assume the new LCD will be similar to Stern's in size and location. Not a bad thing at all.

#619 7 years ago

Hold tight....I'll be posting pics in about 45 minutes

#620 7 years ago

Pics are out. Green trim is an abomination. Large screen looks strange....

#621 7 years ago

PinballSTAR is an authorized Chicago Gaming / PPS distributor and we are taking 'interested' list for those who want the info as soon as it's out... No order, no money now - just when it's a go we will send out an email blast with info, pricing, details, etc... for those who want to order at that time. News will be forth coming soon ! Do not ask me for any details here or by email until CG/PPS releases their info - I am just gathering interested parties at this point as we will be sharing ALL the info / pics / pricing with our mailing list friends as soon as they are allowed to be shared. : )

Please email [email protected]

Joe Newhart
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570-357-0042

#622 7 years ago
Quoted from jalpert:

Pics are out. Green trim is an abomination. Large screen looks strange....

Where?

#623 7 years ago

Screen isn't bad, but I think I would opt for the steel trim.

#624 7 years ago

Yah, not awful but strange. That trim though is absurd.

Quoted from Mike_J:

Screen isn't bad, but I think I would opt for the steel trim.

#625 7 years ago

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#626 7 years ago

I don't see that this has been posted yet. If it has My apologies

JJ

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#627 7 years ago

(Feeling really glad I "remade" my own last summer...)

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#628 7 years ago
Quoted from Gexchange:

I don't see that this has been posted yet. If it has My apologies
JJ

The only one that should be apologizing is the person who made the decision to go with that lime green!

#629 7 years ago

#630 7 years ago

If they went with the dark green that the martian has on the topper, that would be cool.

#631 7 years ago

Seems like red or black would be bigger sellers but guys do some crazy stuff with their games so who knows?

#632 7 years ago

I'm in for a "Pro" at around $5500

#633 7 years ago

Bizarre decision to go with that colour.

Possibility it's an issue with the photo, but if it's representative, then it clashes horribly.

#634 7 years ago
Quoted from simplykind:

I'm in for a "Pro" at around $5500

Then you woke up...

Anyone who thinks these games will undercut Stern Pro/Premium pricing are high

These guys are building with 'proven' titles.. and offering a NIB experience for the new buyers. They know they can charge a premium and will..

#635 7 years ago

Doesn't look good at all. I'll be sticking with older pins thankyou very much

#636 7 years ago

I think if the standard is priced right and the color is upgraded like mmr when u purchase that package ..it will sell nicely for around 7500-8k ....

#637 7 years ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

Then you woke up...
Anyone who thinks these games will undercut Stern Pro/Premium pricing are high
These guys are building with 'proven' titles.. and offering a NIB experience for the new buyers. They know they can charge a premium and will..

I am not so sure of that.

If a Stern NIB pro is 5100 to your door (some have said they are still getting old prices so possibly more like 4800).
If nicely restored originals are under 7800.
Then I dont see even reproduction standards selling well unless they are competitive. I dont think there is a premium to be had on AFM. I actually think they are much better off pricing agressively and making more sales, esp if CGC really did build a line specifically for this.

Keep in mind the other issue and thing buyers will factor in it that this is not a Stern build and could take over 2 years from deposit to delivery. Compared to a NIB Stern which is under 6 months and in many cases under 2 months.

#638 7 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

I am not so sure of that.
If a Stern NIB pro is 5100 to your door (some have said they are still getting old prices so possibly more like 4800).
If nicely restored originals are under 7800.
Then I dont see even reproduction standards selling well unless they are competitive. I dont think there is a premium to be had on AFM. I actually think they are much better off pricing agressively and making more sales, esp if CGC really did build a line specifically for this.
Keep in mind the other issue and thing buyers will factor in it that this is not a Stern build and could take over 2 years from deposit to delivery. Compared to a NIB Stern which is under 6 months and in many cases under 2 months.

This is the market where people will buy NIB titles unproven for 2x-3x the cost of proven used titles because they think they need new. The NIB buyers are cash rich, not penny wise.

They loaded the games up with mods for a reason.. to justify higher price points. They didn't need to preload mods to sell AFM. They aren't going to be giving those mods away in a price point to try to compare to some used AFM for 6500.

Chance of them selling under used AFM prices? Zero. They know the market is full of 'but I need NIB....' buyers
Chances of them selling at a comparable price to unproven stripped down pros? Zero. They know they have a proven title and they loaded them up with 'improvements' to justify a price.

I think they'll be slightly cheaper than the MMR at the entry point (to make the point they are cheaper) and then blow way past it with the add-ons and higher tiers.

#639 7 years ago

The green is not my thing. But that 'premium' with the wilde dmd looks really good.

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#640 7 years ago

Slimer green left over from GB LE sales.
Powder coat Black would look much nicer.
Love the wide speaker to speaker screen, at least that's the way it looks.

#641 7 years ago

ha, you're right! slimer green.

I don't care for the wide screen or the topper.

In that picture, are those the various AFMR models, or? Ie limited vs standard and such?

#642 7 years ago

Have you guys seen the topper in action, it looks terrible! The Green is absurd. If that classic version is 6k it will sell like hot cakes!

#643 7 years ago
Quoted from mtdouble:

If that classic version is 6k it will sell like hot cakes!

Prepare for an 8K waffle

#644 7 years ago
Quoted from Bronty:

In that picture, are those the various AFMR models,

Yes, three models.

LTG : )

#645 7 years ago

does the base one have bally on it?

#646 7 years ago

Am I the only one that isn't keen on the super wide lcd/dmd? I prefer the classic (original) look out of the 3 available, although the led saucer lighting is pretty cool.

#647 7 years ago

I like the base/classic look also

#648 7 years ago
Quoted from NeilMcRae:

does the base one have bally on it?

Just appears to be the LE and Premium that have the cut out for the Bally LCD signage.

#649 7 years ago
Quoted from NeilMcRae:

does the base one have bally on it?

I'm sure that option will be available for a nominal fee.

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#650 7 years ago
Quoted from Russell:

In tournaments, MM becomes basically a one shot game. Shoot castle, try to survive, repeat.
AFM is significantly more complex with multiball, stacking hurry ups, Total Annihilation and even Rule the Universe all being valid options.
Both great games, but strategy favors AFM.

Absolutely true. AFM is the better overall game, especially in tournaments. I love MM, but when I was choosing between AFM and MM, the better strategy balance in AFM won me over.

My guess for pricing will be...

- $7,500
- $8,500
- $10,000

...and I think they'll sell a ton. I'm happy with my original, but there's going to be a healthy demand here.

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