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American Pinball Houdini thread

By lllvjr

3 years ago

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Post #145 Houdini Pinball initial flyer Posted by HighProtein (3 years ago)

Post #184 Initial reveal at TPF Posted by SilverballNut (3 years ago)

Post #190 Introductory Price of Houdini Posted by 1iblind (3 years ago)

Post #198 Initial Pictures of Machine Posted by lllvjr (3 years ago)

Post #229 Playfield Close-Up Pics Posted by bigd1979 (3 years ago)

Post #284 Machine feature details Posted by rosh (3 years ago)

Post #312 More feature details Posted by rosh (3 years ago)

Post #385 Double switch lane picture Posted by pinballrockstar (3 years ago)

Post #420 Pinball show appearance schedule for Houdini Posted by rosh (3 years ago)

Post #434 Houdini pics from Allentown show Posted by PinballSTAR (3 years ago)

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#495 3 years ago

I put my deposit down and appreciate that there is another company in the mix to produce Quality alternatives to earn our hard earned money. So much better than how this hobby looked 5 - 10 years ago. Keep raising the bar and if people like it they will buy it regardless of cult followings or personal opinions. Need to make room soon and remind myself to inform the misses that we made another Huge purchase. Ahhhh, plenty of time for that........

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#558 3 years ago
Quoted from vidgameseller:

Houdini is one that i will probably get, and I have liked everything i have seen so far, until the LED T-molding, thats ugly and i really hope that they do not do it. Its one of those things that will actually make me consider getting the game.
Please AP, leave that off and let one of the mod makers make it for those that like ugly

And I say Please AP leave it On the game! Seriously, they offer a simple "turn the feature off" if you don't like it. Sounds simple enough? Why are we recommending they remove or skip value added features because a few don't want to Turn it off?? As a deposit holder and Confirmed buyer please stand true with your build plan and don't let individuals force their personal wishes on the wishes of All. Love this title and what I have seen thus far.

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#589 3 years ago

A bit off topic (though I already have my deposit in for the Amazing Houdini!) but I was wondering why grand new releases like this don't consider setting the game up for .50 cents (ish) per play at these road trip unveilings to donate to their favorite charity? Not saying that would die down the lines any but the unveiling and attraction of a New spectacle such as this would probably draw a nice gift for children and who would frown on giving .50 to a charity?? Again, Just Asking if this type of opportunity was ever done? Seems like it wouldn't be horrible for a start up company to start with a tax deductible donation to a good cause...Just a question not a demand nor am I promoting Any charity.

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#661 3 years ago

I would personally suggest they keep adding things and not change/undo the things they have already Done! Keep moving forward it looks great so far!! Yes I want this game sooner than later! lol

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#733 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Got word they are done, shipping real machines in October. Still amazed by this whole story

Got word? Or you read what Mattelder posted to you 9 days ago on this thread? Did he also share the production volume schedule? Give them time, the game is looking Amazing so far. False or assumed expectations are how things get off the track.

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#791 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

I'm sorry, you're right - I specifically meant marketing. No offense, Lloyd!

You kidding, Lloyd is marketing, support, supporter, tech, therapist, friend, shoulder to cry on, rules guide, and anything else connected to pinball or games with balls in general! Pool included. That man is an encyclopedia of pinball support and a dam nice person.

#812 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

I had an argument with someone yesterday about whether or not opera should be allowed to be modified - change settings, modern choreography. His position was the purists' "no changes!! Is nothing sacred?" And I disagree - we have to evolve.

An argument over Opera? That sounds like a playfield dimples forum battle. lol Just poking. Truth be told my mom (love her) dragged me to Every opera and play till I was old enough to run. These days I am thankful she did.

And for the record, I agree with your friend. Opera is classic like art. Leave it alone!

#817 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

We have not done any updated videos, and not sure we will before Expo. I will say the lighting is significantly improved and the art in the lower portion of the playfield was lightened up as well. In my opinion lighting is no longer a concern.
After expo, we will look to do some higher quality game play videos with the right setup that can really show game play, animations, etc.

After Expo I'm HOPING you can just video the one shipping to my House! lol Don't rush quality Please. At least your starting with Code which is something S*&^n has not considered. lol Can you tell I have a Batman LE?

#820 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

I do say I enjoy that thread has briefly detoured into Opera and the greatness of LTG.
While personally not a big Opera guy, one of my oldest friends, has written a couple, so it is nice to know that there are still fans out there.

And Know we are fans of You Rosh! Delays and changes happen, general updates and communication are a Wonderful gesture for growing businesses. Not easy and can Absolutely be a nuisance at times but I am Certain all appreciate your efforts to calm our interests. Thank you!

#823 3 years ago
Quoted from Trekie:

Will their be a factory tour like Stern has?

Rosh notes not at this time in post 805.

#830 3 years ago

Looks like box porn to me. Drooling. Can’t wait to get this machine! Thanks

#857 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

running the calculations, stand by . . . .

Excellent. Your 83.345 percent further than Batman 66. lol I appreciate the updates and quality your team is putting into this title.

#859 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Was walking through the factory today, grabbed a couple of quick photos . . .
Given these bags of sand are half empty, the rest must be at the start of the line . . .

These huge pallets of color displays were being delivered, glad I'm not the one who has to break these down and put them in the parts cage, although some will go right to the back box line where they are needed.

Sand? Not sure I understand that one. Did you add an hour glass to the game? lol

#870 3 years ago
Quoted from Superchicken:

I'm thinking sand is to age the chain in a tumbler.

Sand would not age the chain more strip it to raw clean again. Plus I'm fairly certain its plastic chain which would remove the plating. I'm going to go with the daycare center concept. lol

#874 3 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Sand could be used for little tiny stage sandbags used for counter weight or line pics.
Also used to fill something for ballest.

Or it Could be used as a diversion to give us to talk about and discuss while they build our games! Lol

#893 3 years ago
Quoted from TKDalumni:

I'm glad the LED molding didn't make the cut..

Yeah glad others convinced them to omit an Included feature you could turn off because a few individuals didn't like it. Umphhh. More is never bad, to ask them to do Less than they want to is questionable.

#895 3 years ago
Quoted from TKDalumni:

How does an LED molding integrate with a Steampunk theme? Consider it something you can add to your mod portfolio...

lol, fair enough. Just saying if one didn't like something they wanted to include Free with an off switch setting seems like buying it from me would be off to the people that liked it. I will take my game Any way they choose to build it personally. I also unplug the knocker in my games because of my dogs. Please don't take it out though thanks.

#918 3 years ago

Used as a means to spin the heavy skid items like a ball bearing surface?

#922 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Someone is on the right track.

Dam you Rosh, now I don't care about you building my game I just want that bag of sand and know what its for!!! lol. I am easily distracted.

#1015 3 years ago

Played the game Many times and even got my name on the board! (YEL) What an amazing Team, game, and spirit. It is clear they are driven to succeed and quality of the machine shows it in every way. Met the entire team and Rosh is even more informative in person than the forum. The Really love what they do and it shows and I love that I am on the list. Amazing machine! For me, Houdini and POTC were the Only show this year. Other than the great attendees of coarse! And FYI, That ball throw across the playfield never missed! Amazing and made you smile every time!

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#1036 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Here are a couple of crappy videos, best I could do, have not really looked back at what I recorded to see what is in them, I think they were both during movie modes, put pretty sure there are a couple of catapult shots in them. Guessing these have me talking to someone while I was filming, so, sorry about that, and hopefully I did not say anything I should not have been saying.
I will try next week to get a decent video shot where you can also hear the sound.
Here is the first, second one seems to be stuck uploading
» YouTube video

Hey!!! There are NO crappy videos of Houdini!!! They are all Magic! Loving this game. My gameroom is prepped for delivery.......

#1082 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Seems to me that long term they will learn how to do it better?

Agreed and since 99% of us are Not tournament accomplished players I rather enjoyed the new and creative challenge. Gimmick yes but it makes a fun game even more challenging. It keeps pinball fresh and new to create new ideas. May not fit the rules of competition but I as do most don't play for a trophy or accolade. Please don't start removing creative ideas and don't be swayed to take them away.

#1092 3 years ago
Quoted from spfxted:

VERY rough idea from flash's great design. I like things a bit more symmetrical. The A part would have the ball resting in the three curves.

Are we Really asking them to change their shirts, flyers, cards, art, stickers, Huge company sign marque on the building because we don't like their business logo? lol Asking/recommending software features/adds seems appropriate but come on.... I don't like the Windows logo but Bill Gates doesn't seem to care as I am buying a Product not his company. Sorry just seemed a bit rude to the company founders in my opinion. I wouldn't care if their logo was a brown turd as long as they made Awesome games like they are. Just an opinion....

#1102 3 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

MS has changed the windows logo a little to a lot every few years since forever.

Fair and true enough. So let’s let API be in business for many years Then demand they redesign the logo to our liking. Lol.

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#1174 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Not sure I can get yours shipped early, but I do plan to have some 'play testing' events, over the next few weeks, here at our offices, I'll keep you mind
Other than the one big bug at expo, games ran well, but I've been around the block enough times to know there are more bugs that will show themselves. We also found three new ball hang up at spots at expo that are being addressed. Bottom line, the more play the better.

As I said above, always looking for more play testing, and Tequila would be the drink of choice Recently learned it has many health benefits.

Yes he was, and we have really tried to capture that in the machine, vs a magic pin with his name slapped on it.

Hey! I am even Closer to your facility! In fact my customer is on the same block as you! Please consider me for play testing available Any day or time! Also I believe I was within the first 10 deposit orders. So a believer in what you guys (gals) are doing and the awesome product!!!

#1188 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

I don't recall exactly what I said at expo, and since then it is has gone down a little, as I added some new things to the to-do list around sound calls, and potentially feature lamp behavior as wells the stage bug, and then back up to about that same level, 86.392%. The outstanding things remaining are more/better light shows, sound effects, music (I think 5 modes don't have their unique music yet), animation clean-up and improvements, bug fixes, service mode/adjustments/statistics cleanup and additions, and then the Magician modes. I'm not too concerned with last being in place before we are shipping, so those are lower on the priority list than some of the other items (plus need to give the early owners something to look forward to)
As mentioned previously, Houdini is a little chatty, well not Houdini himself, since he only talks at the start of stage modes. There are 9 settings to control various aspects of voice calls (see below). As a reminder all of the 10 stage modes and all of the five movie modes, as well as Jail Escape hurry ups, Seance Multiball and Secret Mission (combos), can be flipper escaped during their intros.

We are in the process of getting a decent webcam so I can do some decent videos of game play, so that is on the horizon. It will take some time to get the right setup.
As far as production, we are getting close to pulling the trigger on the line, we have a couple of parts that are delayed. We also need the new parts to kill off the couple of ball traps we found at Expo, but those are not holding things up, yet. I guess technically you can say we have started, as we are moving playfields through the first couple of stations where we do have the needed parts. But to me, despite what others might stay, production is when the first machine rolls off the line and goes to final testing AND the line behind it is filled with playfields being assembled (vs when we did a few sample games). There are some other minor issues we are working through, things like changing connector styles, wiring routing, etc. to be more reliable, easier to service or to make manufacturing easier.

I will post something here when I have a date or two setup to see who would like to come by and play test. Obviously there will be a limit on the number of folks for each testing event. Nothing agains anyone here, but I am looking to get in some of the better players I know (I'm looking at you Yancy, Jay, Robot)

Back when I was running call centers with 300+ agents, anytime IT would want to roll out new systems, I would want to be first or last. When first you typically get an extra level of service and in some cases are able to get changes made to your liking, otherwise last to give time for the issues to be worked out.
Along those lines, over the last couple of weeks and weekends we have been doing extensive burn-in on the production samples to identify any issues. This is an addition to life testing we have done on some of the key mechs. We did find a couple of minor issues, basically mechs that come to us assembled that will need to have some screws "loctite'd". First machines will go to distributors for their showrooms, so that will also help identify issues. However, pinball machines are pretty complex, as you all know, so I would be lying if I said "there will be no issues when games ship". I do feel bad for the guys who work in the lab where the burn-in is happening, having to listen to the machine fire through all of the coils twice every minute all day long must get to be quite annoying. Normally we would do it in the burn-in area, but right now that is pretty crowded with parts being quality checked. Normal burn-in would be just overnight for production machines, but obviously we want to do as much of it as we can right now to shake out (pun intended) any issues.

Awesome update Thank you Rosh! Just throwing my hat in there. Since I live only 10 minutes south of the factory and work from home so access is 24/7 I would love to be considered for the product review/testing. Plus I Believe I was on the top 3 scores at 830k I believe...."YEL" Thanks for the update, my money is in hand for the distributor call!!!

#1192 3 years ago
Quoted from BubbaBeast:

Hey guys - long time pinball fan, but have just recently started my own collection. I'm a big magic fan, and was thinking about pulling the trigger on ToM before I ran across a flyer for Houdini at the White Rose Gameroom Show. This thread has been great, and I'm really excited for this pin. Rosh's updates and inside look into the process of creating a new game are awesome. This will definitely be my first NIB game. Before I put down a deposit can someone help answer a few newbie questions? I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge!
1) After reading a few of the forums for newer games (WOZ, DI, Alien, Batman, Magic Girl, etc.) there are a lot of horror stories regarding putting money down before a product ships, so I will wait to order until after the game has been shipped to those who pre-ordered. Similarly though, how long would you guys say is a safe "grace period" to wait before purchasing a new pin so that the potential kinks have been ironed out (mechanical issues, coding problems, etc.)?
2) Updates to coding seem to be relatively common for games. How easy is it to download (?) and install new code updates? I have seen some updated ROM chips for sale on ebay - are these for older machines only, or do current machines update the same way?
3) My first two pins were bought through a local amusement company. They brought the machines to my house and set them up for me, provided a warranty, and will come and service the pins (at a cost, of course) if needed. If I were to buy a new pin through a distributor like CoinTaker, etc. would they provide the same services, or would they ship the box to my doorstep?
Thanks in advance for any help!

First off there are NO guarantees in Any hobby. With that said, the horrors you mentioned all had one key component. Give us the money now and we will let you know when we are done. Or Not done! AP (Houdini) has not asked for ANY deposit and they have a Strong and invested team supporting this project. Just meeting with them at the show and Sampling the product sealed the deal for me! Yes, there are several distributors and not to take from any but I personally would recommend you visit Joe and Pinball Star in PA. He would rub your back while you play to keep his customers happy. lol Just kidding but he has Never let me down and lucky you he is in your back yard. He is the rep for Houdini and JJP as well as others and Really understands customer support. Probably even white glove delivery. Finally, while I wouldn't tell you how to spend your money AP looks to be a winning bet! I know my money is on them and I am excited to own this title like yourself! Good Luck!!

#1201 3 years ago
Quoted from flipnout1:

No back rubs but I know that we have provided a lot of KY hospitality in small red solo cups over the years!

OK, tell me Knowone else thought he meant something else when he said he provided "KY Hospitality"!?!?!?!?

#1220 3 years ago
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

I'm loving Houdini and hope to own one, but for me the rebirth of Bally/Williams has been The Big Lebowski. Hopefully, more than the current 55 TBLs will make it to the real world.

To be a Rebirth don't you have to be a Real company making Real games? So far DP and TBL have been nothing more than a Rebirth of Bernie Madolf! Sorry, Love the theme TBL Deeply but I feel Very sad for the people that bet on that company of scammers and worse for the people that send them more money to pay off their First credit dept. AP is doing EVERYTHING right and I am Very happy that I bet on this team as they have given no reason to question their direction as they have been transparent from day 1.

#1224 3 years ago
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

Thanks, but no worries - my Houdini and TBL are both going to look great alongside my future TRON VE!
BTW - go Wheaton! Although it has grown a lot (and changed somewhat) since I lived there as a kid, I have many fond memories of it.

Small world. Not much has changed. Same everything including the Taxes!

#1242 3 years ago
Quoted from per3per3:

We really need a quality gameplay video highlighting the various features, shots, etc.. With JJP's Pirates (and Dialed In for that matter) and Stern's Guardians of the Galaxy coming out, a high quality video would go a long way in selling these machines. From everything I could gather from Expo, the verdict on the machine was a bit of a mixed bag due to what sounds like annoying power issues. I definitely expected better info, mainly gameplay vids, to come out of expo. I'm holding strong with my preorder spot but there seems to be some potentially solid competition for my money. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly excited for this game but need to have something to be truly excited about.
Rosh - Give the pinball world what they crave and get us some sweet video action!

Maybe not what you want nor Spielberg quality but there are Dozens of videos on YouTube that show most of the play and Rosh has said the code is not complete to his perfection. Just a place to consider.

#1255 3 years ago
Quoted from Aquapin:

Huge news! Seance worked last night, we were able to make contact with great Harry Houdini. However I think the message is meant more for American Pinball

That is Fricken funny. lol Thanks. I am hearing the same ghostly chants in my own house! Though that might be me sleep talking.

#1260 3 years ago
Quoted from murfe88:

If you can buy it new in box for $7,000 and they are going to keep making them as long as there is demand why would the price go up on a used one ?

I strongly doubt in a production world they will simply just keep making them as long as there is a line... With complex assemblies and Many multiple vendors it simply does not work like that. Not as simple as "hey Joe called, throw another waffle on the grill!". Parts, vendors, and discounts are based on Mass orders and quantities. You don't just order 3 more playfields etc. Yes, if there is a Large pent up demand to quantify a Full second, third, etc run I am sure it will happen but not in a don't worry we'll make more type deal. JMO.

#1278 3 years ago
Quoted from Aquapin:

Me too please...

Please include me on the Email interview Please!!

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#1310 3 years ago

Had an Absolutely Great time visiting and touring the API facility today. Rosh as expected was an amazing host and answered Any question you through at him. More importantly you can tell they were looking for feedback and listening to make the Houdini launch a home run! The assembly line looks prepped/staged almost ready to hit the Start button. Every detail of assembly and more importantly QC was checked and double checked. Very impressive! While a start up, they are focused on hitting it out of the park and Exceeding expectations on every level. Proud to be an Early adopter and my confidence in this product, their team, and company is rock solid after this visit. Bravo to the API team and Thank You sincerely for opening your doors to give us a sneak peak!

The Mod Couple!

#1312 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Glad to hear it, although I’m pleased to say I’m not surprised! The AP team has done a great job thus far of reaching out, clearly using 6sigma or ITIL to incorporate feedback directly into the design process - anyway, very great news. I am totally envious! Wish we were in Chicago too. Maybe when I retire I can afford to go work for AP

According to Rosh they are Hiring so your in Luck! lol Who needs retirement if your doing what makes you happy with a team that feels the same!

#1316 3 years ago
Quoted from VividPsychosis:

Did anyone take videos?

If you mean facility everyone was respectful of their privacy and avoided and production photos or video though I will say they are a Green Light for go for the most part. As for game play, Rosh made it clear he was going to be doing a video soon and a software test visit did not seem like an appropriate representation of their product or our time. I am certain he will get some video out soon though I must say while not 100% the net is Filled with video content and game play already? No, its not every new software update video but they do represent Most of the game play in considering an evaluation of the product. Rosh seems (which is awesome) like a perfectionist. My guess is he is holding off on major film biographies until his software masterpiece is museum worthy. lol The game itself is a masterpiece and well documented in videos everywhere from Multiple showings throughout the years. Just my opinion.

#1327 3 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

These reveiws are killing me. Frothing at the mouth. Was hoping by Christmas, but would rather wait for perfection. Im in, hopefully by 50 th birthday in April.

Seeing the team drive and facility setup I am certain your amazing Houdini will Magically appear Long before April and thats no April foolin!

#1333 3 years ago

Those Rosh updates make me grab for my wallet every time! Just waiting for my buddy Joe at PinballStar to say the word and cash will disappear Houdini style! Looks like they are almost ready to crack open the champaign! (After they make my game!)

#1335 3 years ago

Way crazy thought but wouldn't it be cool if pinball companies offered a Museum type delivery option similar to when you buy a new Corvette! See your game go down the line, you put in the last screw, and they box it and roll it out to the lobby for it's maiden voyage home.... Just crazy talk as I know they have to test but it would be kind of interesting to have a photo documentary of the birth of your game. lol

#1343 3 years ago

Everyone always like to cut out service, support, and Middle men until they Need service, support, and middle men. lol Like convincing Ford or Chevy to get rid of Dealers. That would be fun!

#1378 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

If you didn't see my quick edit, this was my initial suggestion, as some of the transitions look a little jarring, and indeed there are a few which seem missing.
"Animations look like they could use some polish, as well as general presentation. One very low hanging bit of fruit would be to make fade and transitions frames slightly longer. Scene switches would look a lot less abrupt."
That would certainly not be time consuming or expensive, relatively speaking. Since they're typically sliders and tick boxes in a software package.

You are judging a game by a Video and it also sounds like you haven't actually played it? The video in this game looks Amazing and far better than most I have seen. Keep in mind Rosh is Creating these amazing segments with his team not clipping a DVD like Hobbit (not a poke like the game). Yes they are more detailed but a simple flick of the flippers and you can skip it. They are designing a pin for the Masses not the individual. I personally Applaud the creative and Well detailed work they have put into this mechanically and via software. I could only Imagine the work that went into creating these non existent image clips and scenes. This is a game that needs to be Played before judging in my opinion. I am certain as Rosh (in person) seems like a perfectionist they will refine this to perfection. Playing at the open house I only wished I could just sneak mine out the back door!

#1381 3 years ago
Quoted from pinstor12:

Interested, distributors please pm me with best price. Lancaster, Ohio. Thanks.

Just a vote for Joe at Pinballstar in PA. Great support, local enough to you without getting hit with Taxes, and he always has some type of deal up his sleeve. lol

#1389 3 years ago
Quoted from 3pinballs:

Hey Rosh, looks like we're going to need cliffy's on the Catapults, holes and maybe another area. Why not work with Cliffy and offer those as an add on as you start production. This will save us time tearing apart and installing.

Because as Rosh already covered this is not a custom assembly line. All games will be the same and same model. Many like myself do not want HUO protection. Plus this gives you quality time with your personal game and upgrades.....

#1391 3 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

At the very least, I hope they've sent Cliff a playfield by now so he can have day one protectors available for owners to buy as an option. I've suggested it, as have others.

NOT questioning your suggestion just curious if thats how CG, Stern, JJP, etc work with Cliff and other secondary markets? Not saying its not a good idea just wondering If thats what they do? Seems like Cliffy makes his amazing products after the release and OEM fine tuning. Would be bad business to have secondary markets start making mods etc only to make an OEM change and have him eat the change. Kind of like the cell phone market and cases.

#1399 3 years ago
Quoted from Videogod:

I'm a professional magician, and I'm here to testify that top hats and magic wands are synonymous with magicians as far as the general public goes! Can't tell you how many thousands of events I've attended where this was the theme. Given that "Houdini" is a nod to the past, it is completely appropriate to use any of the old magic symbols in my opinion!

Ok that is just a cool title to say! Every kids dream bravo to you! As long as your not a Clown! lol

#1411 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

That's a great level of granularity.
Can I suggest when you're putting video out or taking it to shows that you turn movie rules off?

Unless your in the US please as I and my family Appreciated knowing how to play the game and seeing the animation work. Home users can shut Everything they wish off when they get it home. Not everyone that looks a pinball machine is a natural Wizard!

#1413 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

My comment simply relates to keeping prospective buyers excited ... and since this is very unusual(ly verbose) in pinball, some might be deflated by it. Not everyone reads this thread, so they won't know you can turn it off.

So your saying it would be a Benefit for the company to Not show the How To play animations to prospective buyers especially those that don't read Pinside? Seems like the Opposite would be the smarter business decision to interest buyers. I for one hate walking up to a machine pinball or other and Not have a clue what to do. Hence the reason I could never get into dropping $2 into one of those awesome 3D video games.

#1415 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

prospective buyers are already likely to be pretty familiar with pinball.

I totally disagree with that. Plus as a company and for the hobby as a whole I Hope they are trying to find business Outside of the current Underground hobby wizards! You must hang out with a much smaller crowd. I think I can count on 1 hand how many people I have met that said "hey I have pinball machines too!" None. Pinball is big to us. Pinball as a hobby is microscopic compared to most others. There are more pet rock collectors than pinball collectors.

#1420 3 years ago
Quoted from chinosts:

I just watched a YouTube video of game play for this machine. In my opinion, this looks like a beautiful machine with an awesome theme. I love the light show and all the playfield shots and toys.. The voice call outs sound great as well. This machine reminds me of something that Williams would of built in their heyday.. Like a Theatre of Magic or Circus Voltaire..
Does anyone know if/when its coming out? Where to get it? How much will it be?

Agreed on the Theater of Magic comparison. Very similar in creativity with a bit more video animation which really gives it a great flow. As for price, it looks like the US price is a lock (which is great) at 6999 for all US distributors. Sorry don't know about AU that you would have to search for. You could check out the American Pinball website they might have more details or order info. As for when... I want it Yesterday but based on the feedback they have generously shared they are pretty close to pushing the start button. My guess is January but fingers are always crossed for an Xmas Miracle!!

#1449 3 years ago

Since your taking requests.... A play off one of his first tricks. A profile view of Houdini pulling the needles out of his mouth with the match number dangling mid pull. Maybe some applauds if a match?

#1455 3 years ago
Quoted from djreddog:

Let’s think outside of the box for the match. Instead of it being a random animation that results in a random number how about an end of ball bonus that requires you to hit a certain shot or start a certain mode in 3-5 seconds. These ball bonuses could also increase in difficulty if the machine determines a high number of free plays.

Intereresting idea. How would that work for the majority of people that have their machines on freeplay?

#1459 3 years ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

A Zeppelin, painted to look like a cucumber, covered in bacon grease, towing a huge banner that says "So's yer mum!" is shot down by a diaper wearing baby smoking a cigar who turns to the camera and winks as the Zeppelin crashes into a NY hot dog cart. The owner of said cart runs into the street towards the baby seeking vengeance and is struck by the Weinermobile. His body drags behind the Weinermobile as it goes through a Starbucks drivethrough. The Weinermobile driver throws a water balloon filled with pee through the window while shouting "YA BASIC" and peels off, leaving the body of the hot dog cart guy behind. 17 raccoons climb out of a dumpster and drag the body back in. The lid of the dumpster slams shut revealing the match number.
The aristocrats.

Now That is creativity! lol

#1472 2 years ago
Quoted from konjurer:

I have many cool decks of cards in my collection and was fooling around with some ideas. I made a quick video this morning with a seance deck I have.
» YouTube video

Looks good. Maybe just the end number card flip though so they don't fall asleep waiting.

#1477 2 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Drop a safe in the water. Match number escapes in a bubble and when it rises above the water it pops and reveals the number.
LTG : )

That I like and fairly simple per the theme!

#1491 2 years ago
Quoted from transprtr4u:

So the test games have the cabinet side art , does that mean that they will included in the production run!
Please everybody in Chicago area go test!
Let the production line begin!
Looks great.

The side art as well as the shaker kit are optional. Played for several hours at their open house. They are so close I am already chalking an outline on the basement floor!

#1496 2 years ago
Quoted from transprtr4u:

Knew they were an option(shaker& side art ) thought they were going to be aftermarket!
Perhaps only installed on the test games?
When you played the Houdini at the open house was the shaker installed?
Glad to read that you think they are going to be released soon!
Thanks for the reply

Agreed with DangerWill, that side art was a must and absolutely well executed. While others make side art having the actual Artist provide a match scheme is the best option. Never was a fan of shaker motors myself other than Batman 66 and LOTR. If the price is fair I am sure I will get one cause, why

#1498 2 years ago

After a visit to AP and spending some time with Rosh I thought it was time to brush up on my Houdini history to better understand some of the Many amazing details they added to the playfield and software. Picked up a 1st addition 1st print issue so I can get the whole experience. lol

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#1500 2 years ago
Quoted from andrewket:

Just moved my POTC deposit to Houdini. Just wasn’t feeling it for POTC. Houdini looks interesting and I like the idea of supporting a new pin manufacturer.

Have you played both? Not speaking biased as I have my deposit down for a POTC CE and Houdini from day one but they Really are different games. Houdini for Certain has a price advantage but I must be honest that after playing POTC at Expo it will be a Long time before another game touches that one for creativity, features, and incredible software depth. Again, Loving Houdini and I have never wavered off that decision but I do suggest playing them both if you only get one choice....

#1539 2 years ago

Always wondered. These games on test. Do they have a laptop or video system integrated to monitor errors for identifying issues or is this done more for a break in torcher kind of test process? I noticed when DI was there on test some time ago they had several cameras surrounding the machine. I Assumed Jack was watching so I reframed from giving it a proper thrashing! Just always wondered what is gathered from these field tests and what role it plays in the end production. My guess is mechanical wear?

#1569 2 years ago
Quoted from abelelectronics:

Taking orders for Houdini. Shipping starts in December. Order yours now. PM for details.

Is this a fact announcement or assumption? So ready for mine but we have not heard that commitment from API as of yet not that I am worried.

#1571 2 years ago
Quoted from Acerun:

It is half way threw December already!!

That would be a Fact #acerun! The worst thing a distributor can do is Over promise and underdeliver a product they have no control over. Managed Expectations is the best sales strategy. My distributors Love to sell products we don't yet offer. In the end the OEM is the one that is frowned upon.....

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#1610 2 years ago

Still plenty of room under my tree if the API team wish to surprise me. Note that my chimney isn’t very large so please use the front door. I have 2 on order so let’s hope they are building them in Pairs!!

#1640 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

So close.....i wanted one under the tree, but ill settle for a nice Valentine's gift.
JJ, please Answer phone on Wed when im able to give you a call. Your my closest distributor.

Hey don’t count them out yet. They still have 8 days left to box a game. At this point rightfully I think they are focused on thier commitment to themselves which is a Great team/business plan! They have really started this company on the right foot and I wish them great success in the long future to come. I am and will continue to be a supporter of businesses like API.

#1650 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

...and Magic Glass? Cost??

I think API is more focused on building, boxing, and selling the first game before jumping on accessories at this point. Give them time I’m sure your accessories will be offered.

#1675 2 years ago

I can only imagine how many hours per day the API team have been living at the factory this past week. Lol. The champagne finish line is close I suspect.

#1688 2 years ago
Quoted from GAP:

Unboxing of the Houdini pinball machine from American Pinball.

Congrats Mike couldn’t have gone to a better guy. Funny they went through all that work to box it for your 5 minute drive back to unbox it. Lol. Now box that #1 back up and let it collect dust as I see this company having a long future and that #1 will have some value! After I come over and play it of coarse!!!!

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#1760 2 years ago
Quoted from NintenBear:

So I played 10 games on this machine at Level 257 and have a few concerns/comments. Multiple times the shot that goes into the magic box didn't work, and the ball would get stuck and then going into search mode on almost every game I've played. It also has gone down out of service at least 5 times in the few weeks I've played it. Is this just issues because its a prototype demo unit? It's a fun layout and I love the theme but am worried about the amount of time its been down.

I can speak for the out of service. I was there 1 week ago and it was out of service. Said heck no! Found the manager and he said they are having trouble with their card reader on the game. He claims they are getting a new one but no time frame. He somehow bypassed the card reader for us and added a dozen credits for us to play. The entire time we played it said out of service on the coin door. 257 issue not machine.

As for the shot to the box. We did notice it was just clipping the front edge but Did make it in every time. My take was it was Very noticeable they dialed down the flipper power or the row of 30 games was light on power? From the dozens of other times I have seen this game live I have personally never seen it miss that shot?

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#1808 2 years ago
Quoted from PinPatch:

Hi Rosh, great effort to get machines out in record time for a startup.
Looking at the assembly line photo, the working height seems a bit low and may cause sore backs etc, looks about 3 inches too low.
Obviously I'm only going by the one photo.

Sorry, what an odd comment from the other side of the world looking at a photo?? Any comment on the dress attire? lol

#1814 2 years ago

Loving the updates Josh! Chalk outline on the floor for its arrival and placed my order for a third machine with Joe. Hoping to clear that shipping dock as soon as side blades arrive! So looking forward to this machine and future successes.

#1856 2 years ago

To funny. lol Agreed, Get Joe at Pinball Star off his butt and moving machines!!

#1863 2 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

You need to let me know when you get yours, I have that bottle of champaign you gave me sitting on my desk waiting.

You already earned that Long ago with your amazing support and feedback to the buyers! I was over at GAP Saturday and again today to (test) your teams awesome work of art. Loving it and more than willing to wait my turn for this great game. For now I'll just hang out with Mike (GAP) and use his! lol 3 on order for me (few friends wanted to group them). I certainly hope your team was allowed to take a breather after your mad rush last year to pull this off. Ready and waiting patiently...

However..... Please wait to drink that After you guys build and inspect my games! lol

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#2021 2 years ago

I played it both at 257 as well as GAP and it stands the same height as all the other games. It only stands out as being Awesome to play and a challenge to beat! lol

#2068 2 years ago
Quoted from MikeS:

Got to go play Houdini again today and got about a dozen more plays on it. Wasn't able to top my 1.3 million score from last time but had some good games. Probably the coolest thing was when all the GI went dark after what I think was a later stage of trunk multiball. There were some big 45 million + jackpots and it got pretty insane! There really are a lot of modes and cool ideas on this pin and it would be a great pin to have at home due to the depth.
One thing I'm not that keen on is the insert lighting for the chain links. I'd much rather have them be either on or off as it's really hard to determine at a glance what intensity they are lit at. It just doesn't seem very intuitive the way it currently is. Minor complaint though... I'm loving this game more and more and really enjoy how tight yet satisfying the layout is!

Sure thats not a type-O? I don't think there are Any 45 Million jackpots in Houdini unless Josh hid some insane easter eggs in there I missed? To get a score of 1 million you are a pretty good player on this game!

#2070 2 years ago

Well I'll take mine now thank you! lol I can install a shaker in 10 minutes and a decal isn't much work really. Plus, being a cheap a$$ if I'm paying extra for glass I would like the one I paid for with the game so I can get that later unless I go the PinStadium route on this one also. Just need me some Houdini! lol At this rate I will have bought another one with all the dollars I put into the one at 257!

#2073 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericc123:

transprtr4u I was actually counting yours and Zach’s as the two HUO machines that I was aware of.

So then his would be Only Home in Canada only! OHCU

#2079 2 years ago
Quoted from westofrome:

Played Houdini for the first time today and had lots of fun. There didn’t seem to be instant info, hope this is coming? I got to put my initials in for high score #3 and the only score I could get to show in attract mode was GC.
Put me down for team knocker. The most satisfying and possibly most iconic pinball sound, standard equipment on literally decades of games, a big part of what made me fall in love with pinball. Removing the knocker is penny wise and pound foolish IMO.

There absolutely is an instant info feature in the game. Watch the SDTM tutorial videos to learn more and Great guys to boot. As for the knocker, doesn't seem like a huge issue to me. I thought most of the newer Stern titles simply use a software based Bing now vs the mechanical which wouldn't be hard for Josh man to code. He's done everything else to perfection.

#2088 2 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

I finally got to play a dozen games at the Pinball Lounge, here in Oviedo.
Exceptionally rewarding when hitting all the shots in Multiball.
Some of the Modes/illusions are a bitch, but for a shooter or HUO that makes it a winner.
A solid 9....we all have read why it plays good.
I jumped over to Guardians, and a completely different game.
It made Houdini feel like a Williams......which isnt bad, but I think between music and lights,
a Stern game like GOTG, or AS, entertains you to reach the goals, and Houdini CHALLENGES you
to reach the goals. Night and Day. Both winners for different reasons.
Lastly, IMO, to see this game, the first game from American Pinball, up and playing in one year.
with The brilliance of Rosh, is nothing short of a Gold Medal.
Nothing but respect, a stellar start, with my hopes for even more great things to come.

Excellent review and insight thanks. Getting Tired of watching #ZMeny play his though he is rather entertaining. lol Hurts even more since AP is only 10 minutes from my house and all I can do is look in the windows! Not that I do that...... (Josh, your car is Over the Line again!)

#2096 2 years ago

Regarding the AP logo sticker that most dislike. While I agree it stands out a bit I thought it actually had a dual clever purpose. Looking at it locally it appeared to be a Puffy decal sticker which I assumed was for marketing but Also to act as a cushion to support the playfield when raised so as not to scratch the custom anodized/painted speaker housing. Similar to the rubber door stops Stern puts on the top corners of their machines recently. Is this correct or just an aSSumption. lol

#2099 2 years ago
Quoted from Sinestro:

The rubber door stops on Stern’s games don’t line up with the playfield. They are too far apart.

Ok. Now you have me curious. Why does Stern put those or the holes in there then? For shipping?

#2128 2 years ago
Quoted from VividPsychosis:

Got my game!!!!! Works 100 percent out of the box. Had to adjust the trunk shot down one. Having the game in my house, it is gorgeous. Played about 10 games and wow it plays so so much better then the one at VUK. My legs are quite a bit higher and the action from the pops is WORLDS better. Anyways, here are some photos. The packaging was awesome. The cabinet looks really good. That textured powder coating is really nice. The color is fantastic. The backglass is simply awesome. Best in Pinball.
The game does need some adjustments. they aren’t really issues just an adjustment needed. Perhaps you guys can help or rosh. 1.When I plunge the ball, the ball rubs against the rubber posts on the way out of the shooter lane. I had it happen on my tspp but this game is also doing it. Not sure how to fix it, but it does screw up the plunge from time to time.
2. The seance scoop, shoots the ball out kinda squirrelly. It always comes out but sometimes it’s not exactly friendly, sometimes it hits the top of the sling, other times to try’s to go down the middle.
Okay, I’m going to go back to playing. Adios!!!!
Here are some photos. One is Houdini with no lights on in the house with normal game lighting, the other is with pinstadium on. Still gotta mess with the settings to get the color dialed in the way I like it. Right now it’s set to rust brown to match the rust tones in the playfield. Enjoy!

Looks great and Congrats! Seems like Canada was the first area willing to take the plunge as the direction most are headed. Very cool can't wait to get mine. Looks like you have your priorities straight as the first mod you installed was a beverage holder. lol

#2150 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

I thought the software auto-adjusted, like Ghost Flips on MB. It doesn't?

This is a simple adjustment in the software coil settings. No game knows the installation setup or leveling and every setup is different hence the reason some don't have a great experience at location test sites. They install and sometimes skip the dialing in part. The catapult power is different on a 5 degree level playfield setup over a 7 degree fast play setup. Set correctly this thing is as accurate as Michael Jordan!

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#2270 2 years ago
Quoted from Jamaster10:

Pincades is in the building @ Louisville arcade expo
Come on by and play Houdini

I’m sorry but that LOTR is Over the Line Donny! Nice setup!

#2308 2 years ago
Quoted from BarryJ:

Yes we are both here to help!

Thanks for the additional support Barry. Josh is a rock star in my book so the more the merry. You Could however post Josh’s Home phone so we have 24/7 access! Lol. Looking forward to my (3) machines ordered but per Joe at PinballStar you guys are making sure No detail is left to chance. Worth the wait.

#2334 2 years ago

I placed my order for (3) machines back in June 2017 and have heard no new updates at this point. Hoping API sends some love to Joe@PinballStar soon.....

#2339 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Oh great that does not make me feel good. Joe told me that the machine would ship to my door from Chicago, but I guess it still ships through his account. This is hella confusing, especially with other guys I’ve called saying they can have it in a month. I figured Joe had some pull, he always puts on such a great show

I’m with you. Assumed with a June order I would be higher on the list but with all the Canada and other shipments there apparently was a longer line. Sad thing is I’m only 15 minutes from the factory but it looks like the wait will be worth it. My orders will stand unless my POTC CE comes in first or CG drops a surprise release bomb of awesome before that time. That could sway my patience. Lol

#2341 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

CGC just announced a delay to remake 3, so ... hopefully JJp comes through. I’ve been waiting on houdini since after it was re-unveiled. It will be in the collection! I think my enthusiasm is turning into entitled complaining though So I’ll just enjoy what we have for now. And maybe a couple trips to the place nearby that has one on location!

Lol yep that’s what I am doing again tomorrow. Heading over to 257 to dump yet more cash into a row of games I bought but can’t have yet. Lol. What kind of sickness is this!! If you get your game before me though be warned you will have a visitor! Lol. I’m out in Norfolk visiting my kids bi-monthly.

#2349 2 years ago
Quoted from konjurer:

I don't remember exactly... maybe September??? The list at my distributor wasn't very deep at that time. I still wasn't sure Houdini was the way to go. I almost went with TNA. Still want that TNA but Houdini was too much of a dream theme for me and packed a lot in for the money. When I finally got to play a Houdini I was very happy with my decision to reserve a spot.
I certainly feel your pain if you've waited longer than me! I like my dealer so if his pre-order list was already lengthy I still would have stuck with him.

Nobody should feel any pain. This Is an awesome pin and will certainly be worth the wait. A great team whose only fault is wanting to make sure every game is perfect. Look on the bright side, they are still 4 years ahead of the wait for The Big Lebowski!

#2353 2 years ago
Quoted from foxtj24:

How are the quality of the balls? I generally toss the ones stern includes and use the Shiny balls from pinball life. How are these in comparison?

They are Houdini Magic spheres! Better know as round pinballs... Everyone has a personal preference, I'm sure these will be simple balls like all games.

#2367 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

I just wanted to get the info out that all this order of who gets what is very regimented with not just AP but every company. You are in line, we are in line, and we all want it done fairly. I just felt an explanation would be helpful.. We all get there's a lot of angst and anticipation at this stage... We expect it... We see people wait for 6 months patiently then when the first game ships everyone gets 'excited'... We love that, but we also need to be realistic... I learned early on to not 'tease' or guess dates even if I wasn't trying to be untruthful, people take what you say as gold, even if it's a guess... I personally prefer to do these sort of lengthy explanations to customers so I am transparent and they understand the process vs just being told '2 months, it's coming'. The truth right now is no distributor unless you're next on their list has a firm handle on when we are getting what... I get mad when I hear 'I can get you a game next week' I know it's BS, upsets customers who are waiting their turn, and it makes us all look bad. We can guess timeframes, but the process is JUST starting and the team at AP will get there soon where they can tell me 'you've got 10 coming in the next 30 days' or whatever and then we can go to our customers with firm answers. It's just still early is all and the reality is not many have shipped in the whole scheme of things, and for good reasons mentioned above. I can tell you what happens having lived through WOZ, the Hobbit, and other roll outs that took a long time - in a few weeks, or months you'll have your game and the few weeks or months you waited and were anxious will be a distant memory and all we'll be talking about is gameplay, how to complete modes, how to backhand this shot or that shot, somebody got to the wizard mode, etc.. Have fun, be nice, these guys will deliver - nobody wants your game in your basement more than AP and your distributor ! : )

Bravo Joe, now wheres my game? lolol Next your going to tell me theres no Santa! By your tone I suspect your day at the CPA wasn't fun. All good and do as always appreciate the update. Don't worry we still love you ; )

#2369 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Richie Wrench is still the king - he doesn't give a shit when he gets his game though - he just wants everything different than what the game is announced as ! He's a special kind of crazy ! : )

Granted I have read some of his posts, I'm Glad he only has Your phone number. lol Take this for what its worth, I actually appreciate how high strung (in a good way) you get about your business and how you safe guard your reputation. It shows you give a crap! Love it. Now about that coin door color on my POTC CE..... Richie said I need help him persuade you lol.

#2401 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

It's going to need a full cliffy set, but as of the last time I checked, AP hadn't loaned cliff a Playfield to make a set of protectors yet.

Curious, where do you think it needs Cliffy's? I have them on all my games but it looks like there is only one VUK which appears to have a protector around it internally. Are there other places other than the standard shooter lane that I am missing?

#2411 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericc123:

Just got a call from my distributor asking for payment in full. Hopefully I’ll have my game in 2-4 weeks!

Congrats! Roads are clear in Chicago so it should be a quick trip.

#2438 2 years ago
Quoted from Pale_Purple:

Only played ten games on Houdini so far but it feels good. Hard shots and a bunch of different modes are right up my alley. Very happy a location not too far from me picked up one of the first 50.
Has there been any talk of a second game from American Pinball? Excited to see what they do next.

Second machine?? How about making the First machine!! lol

#2444 2 years ago
Quoted from CUJO:

Wow..they are up to Game # 110. I received my Houdini #77 just this past Wednesday. That's 33 Houdini's in under a month or about one a day.
Mine was Built in Feb2018..they don't seem to narrow it down by day...
I'm enjoying mine for sure...Great pin!

I’m enjoying #257. Or should I say playing the one at 257. I figure if I play it enough at $1 per play I will eventually own this one! Lol

#2486 2 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Yeah, probably the worse presentation I have ever given. Between being exhausted and distracted by knowing the Michigan basketball game was starting, I was clearly off my game. I apologize to those who sat through it.

I must have watched a different seminar. I thought you as well as your team showed true excitement and commitment to a wonderfully executed game without making any over the top promises other than to make the best game possible. My guess is with the tireless hours your team has put in this must have seemed like a vacation compared to recent times. Looking forward to the game(s) and certain to see many amazing future titles from API.

#2590 2 years ago
Quoted from FightNightFZ:

Wish I would have read about all this stuff before I ordered earlier this week

Not that this will help but his new kits are now designed to be universal so you could always install them on a different game or sell them worst case.

#2611 2 years ago

Curious. Does API or has API suggested a so called definitive suggested play slope for this game? I am just amazed some people have VUK issues and others its just perfect. API is testing the crap out of EVERY game before they ship. Better QC than I have seen in Any pin company yet one persons installation is different then the next. Seems like the only common denominator is the end installer. Is it possible they designed and tested the games at say 6.5 degrees for perfection and owners are using a different angle? Or possibly not properly leveling at all? My Star Wars as an example just plain stunk until I visited a friend and he showed me the angle he uses and Bam, the ball rolled like an arrow. Just a thought as I find it hard to believe these could be different. Unless of coarse they are in Australia where the ball rolls the other direction.

#2615 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Vireland said it best.

Game is supposed ro be 6.5. Out of box all leg levelers all the way up.

Good tip thanks. That will help should I receive my games some day. lol Makes sense at 6.5

#2617 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Well...i guess i could word it better.
Leg levelers scrwed all the way up, not out...thus leg levelers as close to leg bottom as possible.

You will get your game soon i suppose as soon as its made. The wait is based on when you put deposit in.
The AP gang tried to make this game out of box as easy as possible. Thus the design of out of box, leg levelers up, they come out of box this way, then game should be damn close to 6.5. Now if you have carpet or such, may have to make small adjustment.

The answer to that is June with full deposit. Anxiously waiting non the less unless CG announces something on my wish list lol. Hoping to feel the magic soon.

#2642 2 years ago
Quoted from greenhornet:

re: pinstadium lighting
all manufactures should add controlled lighting packages as standard.

Just a suggestion for Scotts best interest. I would keep the PS light feedback on his thread where everyone that wants it can find it. He has been doing a better job of Moderating his marketing and this nor these photos will help his cause. lol

#2645 2 years ago
Quoted from konjurer:

I agree with GreenHornet. And it would be rude to go into the PS thread and suggest that all manufacturers should have stadium style lighting... but they should.
Houdini essentially does have a strip of LEDs at the back of the playfield. Just need to add them to the sides as well. Make them RGBs and we’re in business. Maybe on Oktoberfest.

I simply suggested taking the Pinstadium content and moving it to the Pinstadium thread. I Too have them on Many of my games but I choose to share my experience on that thread for others of That interest to find. This thread is best served by API and the users with interest and even issues regarding Houdini. As soon as this Game thread gets polluted with Product fodder it will quickly become useless. Love my PS lights and Scott os great. This channel in my view is for Josh and the API team Houdini support.

Plus. As management has already made Written statement on this thread that Mod lighting will Void your warranty Why would you want to temp fait posting this in this thread?

#2667 2 years ago
Quoted from ZMeny:

I regularly complete it but it helps that I hit a magic target to spot a shot for me haha. It’s now one of my favorite modes. If I can just conquer the vanishing elephant I’ll be in business.

To defeat the Elephant you have to use the same strategy used in Erwin TN (Mary). Worked for them almost. Crazy folks in that town....

#2687 2 years ago
Quoted from Rush1169:

Are Houdini’s ready to ship from distributors? I want one, but just want to call, pay, and play within a week. . .

Yeah good luck with That! I ordered in June and still no sign. Call a distributor and your be in que. Just ordered an Escalera from Larry at Flippin Out and he is an API dealer, give him a call he is Incredible with support!

#2742 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericc123:

You’ve probably never bought a game from Spooky, Dutch Pinball, Heighway, Zidware etc. American Pinball is doing a great job for anyone not named Stern pumping these out. Look how long it’s taken Spooky to make 100 TNA’s.

Lol, the only problem with your example is Many of the OEMs you listed have only delivered Promises and false hope. API is doing it slow and steady but in a Forward direction! Stern on the other hand while Fast follows the ship it now and figure it (fix, failure, code) later. Does not make for a happy client in most cases.

#2794 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Let’s get some over to the east coast Guys...

Yes PLEASE! Wish I ordered in December instead of June......One lesson I learned in this cycle having ordered Many dozen games in the past. Joe is Awesome but ordering from the Largest distributor only means his Line is Longer. Just an observation. It is fun to pester him at all hours though. All good as long as CGC doesn't drop the title (we assume) before my some day Houdini call. Then Mr Flippen Larry will be on speed dial and put Houdini in the maybe some day pile.

#2907 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

The ball looks like should be resting on the post not stopped behind it so that when the post lowers it releases the ball?
Is the pitch ok?
Does that ramp need more pitch?
Is there something on the ramp stopping the ball?

Pretty sure thats where the roll over lock switches are? I recall there were issues with the ball hanging up or not registering in the beginning but I believe they worked that out. Check the switches.

Edit. Sorry replied from phone before seeing Josh already answer.

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#3017 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

Invisiglass = Magic Glass. Glare reduction and better visibility.

No it's Magic! it simply disappears!! lol Lets hope they shipped as many to the distributors as they are selling at these shows for walk ins......

#3035 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

The unpack checklist Houdini ships with is pretty spot-on. Basically just check coil strength for the lower catapult (that shoots to the chest), the upper VUK (that feeds to the lower catapult- it should BARELY make it up the VUK so the ball is slow enough not to fall off near the end), and the upper catapult (again, so it's slow enough that it barely makes it into the upper wireform that feeds to the right flipper). Maybe turn the ball serve to the shooter lane coil down and the flipper coils set to 21 or 20. They were a smidge too strong on ours and caused too many airballs until we turned them down. There's also a ball trap on the right side that AP is making a diverter for. No idea if it's done and shipping with the new pins or still coming, but if you get an airball on the right, the ball can get stuck under and to the left of the Spirit pointer.
If you're putting it on a route and install a dollar bill acceptor, note that it will be a pain to close the coin door because the DBA hits the coin box unless you push the front edge down slightly (like 1/8" - it's that close to being right) as you close the door. This is because the cabinet for this and AfMr are slightly out of spec to the small side (hence the plastic lockdown bar "bumpers" on the inside sides of the lockdown bar of AfMr to keep the lockdown bar centered because it's too big for the slightly-too-small-for-standard-Bally/Williams parts cabinet). It's an annoyance, but I blame Churchill for that since they knew they had a problem with AfMr and didn't correct it before they made the Houdini cabs.

Thats some Great tips and advice. Thank you for sharing this! I love cheat sheets.

#3057 2 years ago

The API team, booth, and games were Spot on perfection at MGC. While a newer company they Clearly know how to do things right! Hats off to Josh for his time and continued excitement to share the amazing world of Houdini to my wife and I. There is no doubt they are proud of what they created and accomplished as they Should! We are both excited even with the incredibly long wait to Finaly be getting this home! Thank you Josh and the Entire API team for this beautiful and fun work of magical art. And thanks for not Removing primary features prior to Shipping it! Lol

#3072 2 years ago
Quoted from mbelofsky:

Houdini set up next to my Theatre of Magic. I needed to set the lower catapult from 27 to 24. But all other settings were good. I added the target decals but did not do anything else. I did have factory add blades. Will probably add the shaker motor.

Wow impressive lineup and collection. Congrats

#3075 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericc123:

Larry is a great guy, if you are looking for a Houdini I would highly recommend him.

I second That! My Escalera is arriving Tomorrow!! Couldn't have been a smoother transaction.

#3077 2 years ago
Quoted from Insanity199:

Larry shines in that area.

Are you referring to the MoonShine he uses to get the sale? lol playing. I have several machines on order with him and can't thank he and his amazing wife enough for how wonderful they make handing over $$$$$ so painless.

#3111 2 years ago
Quoted from MT45:

I just couldn't help myself and ... thankfully my wife was cheerfully accommodating! I was inspired enough by the Steampunk game art to order both of us a set of costumes to match this special game.
Tonight we set up the photo lights, tripod and the DSLR and then took a million shots to get these.
Houdini is such a unique game and we both loved meeting the team that built it while at TPF.
To Joe, Josh, Barry and the entire API team we say Congratulations on a fantastic game - sell a bunch!
Enjoy the pictures. We enjoyed taking them

Now that is All in on your pin decision together! Very cool and great to see wives enjoying the fun along side for this crazy hobby known as pinball! Beautiful game, beautiful wife thanks for sharing.

#3171 2 years ago

Mr Josh. With high hopes of finally getting my machines next week (Finally!!) long ago you mentioned doing some updated light show animations and wondered if that was done or still in the works? Seemed like the only thing missing though not all that important just a nice finishing touch. Just curious.

#3174 2 years ago
Quoted from mbelofsky:

Introducing Franken-Houdini with all original parts except the wire gate from a 1970s Williams pinball machine. I’m waiting on the replacement gate from Barry but had one to try.
Just updated code and about to play.

Very creative! lol Gotta do what you gotta do to get your Houdini on! And thanks for the previous tips, hoping to make the milk shot easier myself.

#3181 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Lloyd, did you mean MB? that a hint?

Yeah, tell us this is the Houdini thread and we wouldn't tell Anyone!

#3278 2 years ago

Sooooo close! After 10 months of waiting I Believe this is the week I Finally get my Houdini's!! Urika! I have a chalk outline on the floor waiting for his arrival and the Escelara is all charged up for the decent. Just waiting on the green light from Joe at PinballStar!

#3280 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Let's all text Joe at 3am and get this game to you now. Worth the wait Modfather.

First off Love that idea and intend to text him just for fun all evening with Every game played. Second, while honored the ModFather is the Man and in a league of his own. Not me. Love his stuff very much!!

#3301 2 years ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

I've never people so thin-skinned over a pinball machine insulting your missed shots, lol. I think the insults are all pretty fun and well done.

I want mine to say, "Oh your so good" "Your hot" "Your the man" "your the Best" "nobody plays as good as You!" .... Scratch that, then I will Know the game is insulting me by lying!

#3341 2 years ago

Any chance you could Misplace the spinner assembly for say 2 days so I can make one and correct the issue for future use? Actually not kidding, aside from the electronic board I could reverse engineer that in about a day. Would be SO cool to bring that back to life as an Underground type feature. Had to ask..

#3399 2 years ago

Finally received my games and So worth the wait! Both worked great and nothing but Praise to the Entire API team for an amazing game all around. From packing to QC every detail was spot on for both! Thank you Joe, Josh, Barry, Jeff and Everyone the worked their butts off to make this wonderful game a reality. Have a few minor adjustments to make for my personal preferences but I can't thank everyone enough. Your hearts and efforts show clearly in every detail. A special shout out to Joe and PinballStar for listening to my every call and text at All hours for his great support, honest commitment, and true passion for pinball. While the distribution order and disbursement seemed almost comical he stood by my side committed to getting this across the line. Hopefully for the Long Productive future facing API these kinks of flow and marketing will be corrected. If I didn't have Joes shoulder to cry on and punch I would have Certainly moved on to other options. Don't worry Joe, I'll still call to harass you for funzies!

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#3401 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Mod couple...( Got it right this time)
Congrats on your new game.
What numbered machines did you get?
Think I see Hou1208? And?...
Wow....So amazing American Pinball!
Do i count 100 machines shipped in April?

My games were #218 and #208. Both Flawless! Time for the Mod Couple to get to work......

#3447 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Joining. The. Club. On Wednesday!!!

Bravo to you, finally moved up the list to the finish line. Congrats!!!

#3451 2 years ago
Quoted from foobeer:

I am now the proud owner of Houdini! Thanks to zmeny from SDTM for letting me buy his baby to let our family enjoy it for a while.
I first played Houdini at Chicago Expo, but the lines were long and they had quite a few breakdowns, so I was left a bit frustrated and underwhelmed. I then got the chance to play it again at Louisville Arcade Expo and loved it! I originally went over to put time on JJPOTC, but found myself wanting to play more and more Houdini instead. In fairness to JJPOTC, the machine that was at LAX was having issues and not playing very well at all.
The shots are definitely tight and I shoot enough bricks on it to build a house, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying the unique layout, fantastic rules, well integrated theme, and overall awesome game!

Congrats. Houdini with a pinball celebrity pedigree! lol Zach is great and I am certain the machine was well cared for. As for the brick shots, I am having the same learning curve. At times I just have to shut it off and come back later as I feel like I am spending more time bricking it especially in the key lane area then shooting. Not sure if there are ways (level etc) to dial it or me in better but time will tell. Congrats.

#3475 2 years ago

One non complaint observation I wanted to share having Houdini for just a few days. The play and features of the game are Very power sensitive!! On day one I tested the game and the catapult was missing by a few inches. No issue one bump of coil setting and it’s spot on. The next day playing my wife decided to play CV and turn on one of the slot machine. Catapult way low now and it won’t even pop it up the wire ramp. Dial it up just one again and perfect. Shut off CV and Bam it’s practically hitting the back box! Just an observation especially those that have shared concerns playing at location spots where some or many games may be in use. Just Starting a second or third pin would cause the Houdini to act poorly from VUK to flippers etc. not sure I ever seen this temperament in any game before but thought I would share for others as these hit home/field arcades.

#3477 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I used to have that problem.
Now I have dedicated 20 amp power to my game room.
It's on a separate panel.
But when the street power is low I can feel it in the games.

I have 3 dedicated 20 amp breakers to the game room also plus I must remind you said you still do not Own a Houdini I believe?. You can typically run 4-5 machines on a 20 amp circuit. Not so much in my opinion with Houdini. In testing, if I run 2 machines of my 12 (seen someone else prior make this observation) if you hold the flipper up in an attempt to dead catch it will basically knock the flipper down just with ball hit. Also have odd volume issues raising and lowering on both machines though I’m not sure if that’s power related. Just for fun we turned on Star Wars, Hoidini, and CV and the Hoidini catapult barely made it half way. I can only turn it up if I Know that the other games will be in operation or it ball over trunk time. Finicky fella this Houdini. Think I’m learning why pinball machines always had so many monster capacitors for so many years. Makes sense now.

#3480 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

I'd put a multimeter on the outlet with the machines going in that situation to see if you're getting consistent base voltage.

Ok I can do that thought I fairly certain with the 100amp service that room has never had an issue but I can check again. In turn, I would ask if you could dial you Hoidini in and fire up those other 2 machine (running not GI lighting) IE playing all three as friends come over and let me know if that doesn’t change your Houdini capabilities. Then for fun turn them off and only run Houdini. I suspect it will be different?

#3482 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

I adjusted the catapult at my house and played it for a week with no other pins on that circuit in the garage. Brought the pin to the location with the other pins and didn't have to adjust any of the coils. Worked the same with 3 pins on one plug as it had at home when it was the only pin in the garage. At the location, there are many cases where all three pins are being played at the same time and no issues with Houdini's catapult or flippers that I've seen.

Thanks Virland, always value your input. I will keep an eye on maybe it’s just breaking in. Just wanted to share an observation for others that have made comments about inconsistencies in play from location to location.

#3593 2 years ago

A mini infomercial for the Awesome Houdini!! The Mod Couple is Proud to introduce our first Custom mods for the Magical Houdini!!! Behold, "The Water Torture Mod" Ahhhhh. lol It took us a long time to get this beautiful machine so we thought we would start off with a highly detailed first step. The Water Torture Mod is fully plug and play like all of our products and completely reversible. We tried to honor the beauty of this game and the mystery that is Houdini. Each mod is hand made with exacting detail with airbrush and hand painted details down to the bubbles and fish glass lenses! Color changing LED effects give a spooky yet theme correct look. Small custom details done in 3D such as the HH monogram and hand painted raised rivets. Authentic 1912 Houdini image Colorized by hand via Mama Mod Couple for a unique flare. A Mod fitting that of the master magician himself! This kit includes all mounting hardware complete with step my step instructions and color photos to ensure a perfect installation. These kits are in final assembly and will start shipping Next Week! Total cost for the kit will be $85 plus $7.25 US shipping. These take Many hours to produce but we believe this game deserves a custom fit! PM for interest or questions. Thank you for your interest in our products!!!

The Mod Couple!

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#3605 2 years ago

Thanks to all for the interest and orders! Our kits are now complete and shipping this week complete with adjustable stainless mounting hardware and easy to follow instructions and no this will not avoid your warranty. We appreciate all the feedback and interest, Houdini deserves a new/old trick of mystery!!

The Mod Couple

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#3610 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Well the good news is a lot of us have never even noticed. As someone who has to carry that big cab around sometimes, I appreciate the lost weight! Haha

You must have moved a different machine. lol Houdini is build like a quality tank which is a Good thing. I would have thought it would be lighter but moving it down stairs was a magic trick in itself!

#3617 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

1/4” but it is very tight

My guess is they solved the key sizing issue as mine from last weeks installs worked perfectly. And Bravo for the packing, clearly some protective planning went into the packaging on this one. Flawless.

#3685 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

A little birdie told me it’s almost ready ... but I SERIOUSLY doubt it’s Kugler Family Pinball! ...Didn’t that already come out?

KFP for the Win! I understand JJP is working on that already with a Quad spinning hexagon disk. Just a few more details to work out. I think AP is working on an unlicensed theme called "Pinside, there and back again" at least thats what the talking bird told me!

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#3882 2 years ago
Quoted from hawkmoon:

Wow,Mod couple is already out of stock on the Water torture mod!!!!

We are back in stock for All mods just send me a PM and it can ship next day. Thanks to All for your interest!

The Mod Couple

#3885 2 years ago
Quoted from WW2GURU:

About 48hours after it was posted. Must not have made too many on the initial run.

We were actually Amazed at the response. Didn't think that many games shipped but we put in a Full weekend sprint and All orders shipped on Monday as promised! We now have stock at full again and All items are available to ship next day again. Thanks to everyone for the interest, we are Honored to be part of your wonderful collections!!!

#3914 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Maybe it should shake when the ball launches like a cannon?

That would be a cool touch!

#3938 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Thanks for the update, Barry! What does the kit include? Is it just the post rubber?

Don't think he was offering a kit simply a .07 solution assuming most people with a pinball machine have a spare 3/16 rubber?

#3939 2 years ago
Quoted from BarryJ:

Engineering wasn't to happy with my last skill shot fix! Who would think hammering next to the playfield would be an issue!?
Now to introduce the new and improved skill shot fix, guaranteed to let you hit all 3 targets "if you have the skill" or something like that.
Call me if you need help 833-API-HELP
**You will need one 3/16" post rubber, which you should already have lying around**

Bravo team API. A rather simple yet elegant solution! Way better than arming the troops with hammers. lol I love simple...

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#4105 2 years ago
Quoted from ElectricLou:

Thank you very much. If you still have a minute, can you confirm that you have the same red leds on your boards when Game is in attract mode (see pics).
Only weird thing is some of my wires are not routed as yours (purple/white/black). Mine is coming from the right. Anyway
Can you also take a pic of the board between both flippers?
It really helps!

Ok not sure what the topic was but that 3d photo made me laugh! Not sure how you managed to get Houdini to do a Kilroy was Here but that pic is priceless. lol Thanks.

#4108 2 years ago
Quoted from konjurer:

I can't back hand it either. It's interesting that I can backhand a similar shot on my KISS that other KISS owners can't seem to backhand. Not sure what would be different from machine to machine. Regardless, it doesn't matter because I can hit the lock shot from the left flipper about 50% of my attempts. Maybe even more like 75% when I'm feeling it.
My advice? Keep trying to dial it in from the left flipper. It's not bad at all! The sweet spot is from a cradle...letting it roll 60-65% of the distance down the flipper.

Just a possible suggestion. I had issues with back handing the shot at first then for giggles I opened the goodie bag API provided and checked my flippers with the fancy gauge thingy they provided and sure enough they were just Slighly to low. A minor adjustment and the back hands were flowing better then Sarina Williams! Well maybe not that good but much improved. Just a suggestion. Also from my poor learning curve, if you changed your flipper rubbers to a different type for color etc things will bounce much differently. The Titans looked great but came with a learning adjustment curve...

#4214 2 years ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

It never gets old............

Plus would be an Awesome Pin! Any Monty Python direction would work worldwide....

#4280 2 years ago

Introducing "Q The Robot" Houdini Illuminated custom robot Mod! Save Houdini from the Robots!!!! The Mod Couple would like to introduce our new "Q" Mod is a perfect smooth finish scale add on to the robot lane for an improved visual target to defeat the robots! Each Mod is hand crafted, hand painted, and designed as a removable plug and play complete kit. Robots belly is an illuminated color changing lens detailed with gears so you can see his inner workings. Also notice the mouth illuminates as if he is talking! Traditional "HH" side detailing, hand painted accent rivets and eyes. Includes full color installation instructions with photos. SPECIAL. Save $$ on Houdini options with our Grouped Houdini Collection which combines our Houdini Water Torture Mod and the New "Q The Robot! Group and Save. Both available Now via our New website store Thanks to Everyone for your continued interest and support!!

The Mod Couple

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#4326 2 years ago
Quoted from lodgingdolphin:

Pee Wee’s Big Adventure Pinball confirmed!

That would actually be pretty cool and Oh so much content.

#4328 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Tissue dispenser mod...

Lol. Plus hearing "I know you are but what am I" after every drain would be funny.

#4380 2 years ago
Quoted from BladeFury:

Q The Robot joined the party! Great work MOD Couple!

Thank you So much again. We are Absolutely Honored to be part of your and many others wonderful collections. Houdini is a masterpiece we are commited to making every effort perfect. We have one coming in the next week (ish) we believe everyone will like. A bit of a challenge but this beautiful game deserves every attention to detail.

#4381 2 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Is that required tech support gear ?
LTG : )
Disclaimer : I wonder if they have that available in fat ?

OK that thought made me slightly spit up my lunch from 2 days ago! Sorry Lloyd but I fear your days of leather pants are over my friend. Thankfully!

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#4555 2 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Leaf blade switches under them ?
Then this - When you adjust a leaf blade switch for the pop bumper. Power off. Look at it below the playfield. A plastic rod sticks down from the pop bumper skirt and pushes a plastic spoon fixed to a lead blade. Be sure the rod is centered on the spoon. ( on an older game be sure the rod isn't worn or spoon is dirty where the rod rides ) Then the spoon blade should just be resting on the rod, not pushing it. The shorter bottom one should be close enough so the slightest ball hit triggers it, but vibration doesn't.
LTG : )

Curious LTG, do they make a lighter internal rebound spring for pops? Never looked but it does seem like the ones on API are firm and require more bump to activate.