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American Pinball Houdini thread

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Post #145 Houdini Pinball initial flyer Posted by HighProtein (7 years ago)

Post #184 Initial reveal at TPF Posted by SilverballNut (7 years ago)

Post #190 Introductory Price of Houdini Posted by 1iblind (7 years ago)

Post #198 Initial Pictures of Machine Posted by lllvjr (7 years ago)

Post #229 Playfield Close-Up Pics Posted by bigd1979 (7 years ago)

Post #284 Machine feature details Posted by rosh (7 years ago)

Post #312 More feature details Posted by rosh (7 years ago)

Post #385 Double switch lane picture Posted by pinballrockstar (7 years ago)

Post #420 Pinball show appearance schedule for Houdini Posted by rosh (6 years ago)

Post #434 Houdini pics from Allentown show Posted by PinballSTAR (6 years ago)


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#9050 4 years ago

Hi all
I am owner of a Houdini for some weeks now. I bought it used. The first owner was tired of all the technical problems and sold his problems to me

So far I like the theme and the pin but I am also unhyppy with the technique.There is a new power supply in the game. Issues are the very bad flipperfingers. They are on highest setting but still feel week. But all shots are possible expect the ramp with the rigt flipper. The slingshots and bumpers feel slow and powerless. The right scoop is not able to pop the ball out after some hours. It needs 10 times until the ball get kicked out. I bend the scoop a little more open and it works a little better.

The new power supply is strange. It is very loud and noisy and if I open the coindoor it starts to become louder .. this makes no sense to me.

So , a very nice machine I like to play. But with the new Stern BK right next to it, it feels as the whole powerunit is not well calculated or planned.

That a knocker and a EOS (!!) is a extra to buy is a whole other story. Please stop that with all upcoming pinballmachines ....

#9062 4 years ago

Thanks so far, here some answers

Quoted from bobukcat:

The flippers definitely should not be weak, especially at the highest settings. The ramp from the right is tough but should be doable even without the flippers maxed out. The power supply sounds louder when you open the coin door just because you are removing a physical barrier to the sound traveling to you, that's very normal. A few questions:

The power supply sound louder due the fan is faster on open door ! Please see, or better hear, the video:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u3lgedxuz9dm0w6/houdini_power.MOV?dl=0

Quoted from bobukcat:

1: How many games are on it and have you made sure the flipper don't just need a rebuild?

Since 09/05/18 there are 301 games in home use on the machine, so I think there is no need to rebuild anything.

Quoted from bobukcat:

2: What pitch do you have the game setup to? It is designed for under 6.5 which would be the back levelers screwed all the way in. I have mine about 6.75 as I prefer that but all the shots are still easily makeable without flippers maxed out.

The game is on 6.3 , checked with the pinguy app for IOS. All shots are makeable expect ramp from the right.
Flipperfingers are on 28 from possible 29.

Quoted from bobukcat:

3: What is your line voltage at the game?
3: Not a question but thoroughly clean the switches for the pop bumpers then adjust the coil setting to make them hit a little harder, I've done this on mine and they are quite active.
4: For the scoop, have you tried turning down the power to see if it improves? Is the problem always with ejecting the ball or is it also / only the release of the locked ball in the scoop? There is a physical (height) and pulse length (electrical) adjustment for the lock release in the scoop.

Line voltage is 224 Volts, the output on the powersupply is 47 Volts.
The Popbumper are working , so the switches are fine. Will set them higher this days !!
I bend the scoop a little, will see. Bought also a full set of Cliffys. As you can see in this slow-motion video .. the ball gets on the corner, cracks the coat and fells down again:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zktxe7niejfiytt/houdini_vuk.mp4?dl=0

Quoted from bobukcat:

5: Again, not a question but physical knockers have been removed from Stern games for a very long time (even CV didn't have an actual knocker) and Houdini was definitely not the first game to eliminate EOS switches, though I agree they should be included and I believe they now are at least on Oktoberfest.
Good luck getting it sorted out, I love the game even after a year of ownership and tweaks.

Thank you for all the hints !
I will work and tweak on my game. I own all Alvin G.s and a Alien .. so I know what it means to have exotic pinball machines. At least API is still on the market.

With the knocker ... yes they are no longer standart but a friend of mine has a knocker on his Houdini and told me that it knocks on "Catching bullet with teeth-mode". Therefor it is integrated in the game and should be installed from factory.
This friend has also changed the power supply and told me that my changed powersupply is not working correct with the noise. Will see.

My game is strange .. it is a very late game from Septembre 2018 but with a Mirco-playfield .. normally this playfields were IMHO in the first games and later on the supplier changed ?!

Also strange: When I picked up the game the shooterrod was horrible ... I changed with a new one. never saw a shooterrod like this after only 275 games like on the pictures.
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EDIT:
MightyGrave YES, its the famous machine you know. Still waiting on a new powersupply from the distribter but I have the bad feeling I have to buy a new one. maybe the one you are talking about ! Should be possible to use this and set in the gamesettings lower.

#9069 4 years ago

MightyGrave

Great work and input !
I am compeletly "with you". Same for me .. I like the game but the coils are a nightmare and no fun to play on this level. As I stated , the former owner sold it to me and was happy to have it out of the house due to the problems. He "lost" several hundred Euros in 6 month with the game.

To the powersupply: Please listen to my video .. than you can hear that it is the powersupply fan working faster when the door is open .. this makes no sense ! The voltage is not changing with door open or closed , only the fans noise is changing.

If I can play the game with more fun I would be willing to buy an other powersupply. The "official" one in my machine is not labeled , looks like china stuff and I can not see a screw/potiometer to change the output.

Today i will bring in Cliffys to protect the playfield ...

#9076 4 years ago
Quoted from CullenT:

Hi everyone, new to Houdini ownership but having lots of fun. Took a while to dial in the game but I feel things are set up pretty well at this point.
A lingering issue relates to the plunger having quite a bit of friction when pulled back to launch ball into the playfield. Although I haven't played any other Houdini pins for comparison it seems very rough and I'd love to have a smoother feel.
Does this sound normal? Any advice?
Thanks!
Cullen

Had the same .. buy a new handle. The original is very cheap material and looks like galvanized. The one I got from Marcos is stainless stell, no galvanik I guess. Also change the nylon tube and your skillshots will fit !!

Right side the original after 250 games, left side the new one.

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#9107 4 years ago

Same to me .. I like gameplay and rulez from Houdini, but technical and from the "play feeling" there is a long way to get to WMS, Stern, JJP ....
For a fast game the pin is fine but we used it on a long evening with some friends and it came up with powerless flippers and problems with the right scoop after an hour or so.
Therfor a nice singleplayer game but nothing for a tournament so far. Hopefully it will still be supported until it is a full playable pinball, same for Oktoberfest and all the pins we, hopefully, see from API !

Quoted from MightyGrave:

So i installed the new powersupply ( 60v/20a/1200w) and changed the coil Strings in menu.
My First Impression is that the coils are very powerfull. and the Flipper powersettings Go only down to 15. Hope AP can Change the Options down to 10 for Minimum.

Very cool that the community works on it and API still supports !

#9111 4 years ago

It is very strange that some people have real bad powerproblems, others not ...
In Germany is a Houdini for sale for 6500 Euro that is 1000 under NIB price.
Too bad that this game is loosing worth so fast ... I think I willalso get rit of mine due the issues.
Was an very expensive excursion to API , my trip to Heighways Alien was not such expensive

#9133 4 years ago
Quoted from Platypus:

I used 1/2" rubber grommets post 8417

Same to me ... grabbed a rubber from the big box, cutted in 2 parts . pressed in .. ready ...
Unbelivable what people making money with it here on pinside !!

1 week later
#9159 4 years ago

Yes .. thank you ... I am also waiting for weeks to get a mode where the ball is used .. too bad that it is not integrated in the gameplay.

1 month later
#9379 4 years ago

Thank you to Barry from API !

Today I picked up the second powersupplie from customs and a EOS set plus knockerset.
Hopefully new powersupply and EOS will make the machine playing better.
First extra powersupplie was loud as hell and had breakdowns after longer playing.

#9382 4 years ago

So I had 2 very nice games after bringing in the new stuff.

New extra powersupplie seems to be from an other chinese vendor than the first one (the vaccuum cleaner). Looking identical but missing one typesign.
However .. normal sound now also after a long game. Have to trigger the maximum output a little. Flippers are a little weaker as before but still rampshots possible.

EOS switches installed ... in multiball it "feels" better , have to watch it !

Knocker build in, forgot the connection to the 48 volts ... will do so tomorrow.

THX to API for the replacement powersupplie ... yes .. you have some faulty ones around.
I payed shipping to Germany but therefor had the item within 10 days !Otherwise it would be send to the dutch dealer who only responses very very slow on emails about warranty ....

1 month later
#9537 4 years ago

Sold my Houdini but still a full set of Cliffys left.

For sale in Europe incl. shipping for 95 EURO.

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