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American Pinball Houdini thread


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3 years ago



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#901 3 years ago

It's how they built the pyramids!

#902 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Here is where the sand ended up. This "sand box" will now head to the front of the line. I'm sure someone can figure it out now. If not you can ask me at expo!

Your floor is already so dimpled. I hope you put in a warranty claim.

#903 3 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

Your floor is already so dimpled. I hope you put in a warranty claim.

Considering they just ground down the floor and resurfaced it, damn right we will

#904 3 years ago

So... the sand is fill for the playfield shipping boxes?!

#905 3 years ago

employees are allowed to bring their cats to work ?

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#906 3 years ago

Sand is used to polish parts?

#907 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

So... the sand is fill for the playfield shipping boxes?!

Wrong!

Quoted from greenhornet:

employees are allowed to bring their cats to work ?

Wrong

Quoted from Phantomtracer:

Sand is used to polish parts?

Wrong

As I said "Start of the Line"

#908 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Wrong!

Wrong

Wrong
As I said "Start of the Line"

Houdini sand sculpture?

#909 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

here is a photo some of you have been waiting for . .

his hand comes out of the playfield now !
that is so cool.

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#910 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

"parts porn', but here is a photo some of you have been waiting for . .

Love that wire! Nice improvement from proto machine.

#911 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Wrong!

Wrong

Wrong
As I said "Start of the Line"

JPOP's ashes?

#912 3 years ago

for cleaning your hands before working. sand acts like an exfoliant to scrape all the dirt/oil/grease off, leaving your skin silky smooth. beach sand is the best.

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#913 3 years ago

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#914 3 years ago

The wireform looks fantastic! Nice finishing touch.

#915 3 years ago

Man I hope the buried alive trick is somehow part of it..

#916 3 years ago

Does anyone know what the starting item is on a pinball machine assembly line?

#917 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Here is where the sand ended up. This "sand box" will now head to the front of the line. I'm sure someone can figure it out now. If not you can ask me at expo!

Well it looks to be the size of a playfield and the sand would be used to equate the weight of a populated playfield. You guy's building the cabinets?

#918 3 years ago

Used as a means to spin the heavy skid items like a ball bearing surface?

#919 3 years ago

"Start Of The Line"....? I'm not getting the clue. I wonder if you're referring to the ESC key on a computer....it might take you to the front of the line? So the sand is for an "Escape" trick?

#920 3 years ago
Quoted from jkleinnd:

Does anyone know what the starting item is on a pinball machine assembly line?

Someone is on the right track.

#921 3 years ago

Pounding in T-Nuts?

#922 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

Someone is on the right track.

Dam you Rosh, now I don't care about you building my game I just want that bag of sand and know what its for!!! lol. I am easily distracted.

#923 3 years ago

I can't figure what having a wood box Full of sand would be good for that is playfield size.

#925 3 years ago

they are manufacturing their own glass

#926 3 years ago

So the sand weighted fixture is used to load the cabinet panels, simulating the playfield, when gluing and screwing them together in the jig.

#927 3 years ago
Quoted from jkleinnd:

Does anyone know what the starting item is on a pinball machine assembly line?

a rotisserie

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#928 3 years ago

While I would love that for tailgating, for playfields we use these . . .

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#929 3 years ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

Pounding in T-Nuts?

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

The box of sand, sealed with a rubber top is used for hammering in T-nuts. While it helps protect the playfield, what is more important, is that it dampens the sound. Anyone who has hammered in T-Nuts knows it can be pretty loud and since on the line it is being done all day long, well, you can understand why reducing the sound is a good thing for everybody.

#930 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
The box of sand, sealed with a rubber top is used for hammering in T-nuts. While it helps protect the playfield, what is more important, is that it dampens the sound. Anyone who has hammered in T-Nuts knows it can be pretty loud and since on the line it is being done all day long, well, you can understand why reducing the sound is a good thing for everybody.

That is fascinating! Rosh give us another riddle.. haha

#931 3 years ago

Whats your second station on assembly line?
This could be a fun game, until Houdini is finished.
Rosh, please give us updates this weekend for those of us that have to work and cant go.

#932 3 years ago

So I was right about pounding sand.

#933 3 years ago

Nice rotisserie. Where'd you get that? Built in-house?

#934 3 years ago

Visiting American Pinball factory today - oh do they have some Houdini ‘magic’ in store for everyone at Expo at their 4pm seminar today.

Production line coming together looking to start shipping in November !

Want one ? Email Joe at Sales@PinballSTAR.com. $250 refundable deposit is all it takes to make your own magic ! : )

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#935 3 years ago
Quoted from rosh:

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
The box of sand, sealed with a rubber top is used for hammering in T-nuts. While it helps protect the playfield, what is more important, is that it dampens the sound. Anyone who has hammered in T-Nuts knows it can be pretty loud and since on the line it is being done all day long, well, you can understand why reducing the sound is a good thing for everybody.

What was the prize again for the correct answer? A game? A playfield? A translite? A hat or t-shirt? A flyer? My name on the factory high score credits? (I was promised that on Jon Norris's next game at Premier before he left. Damnit!)

#936 3 years ago

Seminar stream today?

#937 3 years ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

Seminar stream today?

No-one streamed it.

Sad if it wasn't recorded.

#938 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

No-one streamed it.
Sad if it wasn't recorded.

I was hoping there would be some updates from someone who attended .. at the very least my god what a huge difference from last year!!

#939 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

I was hoping there would be some updates from someone who attended .. at the very least my god what a huge difference from last year!!

Say what you will about JPop ... he certainly guarantees coverage.

#940 3 years ago

Grabbed this from another post:

Lots of changes to Houdini:
1.Added lighting down at flippers with “theater” inspired spotlights.
2.Removed part of plastic ramp and made it a wire form.
3.Revised stage marquee playfield mini lcd
4. Catapult refined is now upper 90’s success. Trying to implement smart learning in game if a miss is recorded.
5. Custom side blades will be available. Trying to fit in bom.
6. Magic glass developed to compete with invisiglass/pdi
7. Shaker kit will be developed. Available as add on.
Set up for initial 1,000 units.
Weight of game 275
Next game unlicensed
90 day all inclusive warranty/ 1yr monitors warranty
Parts available to buy direct and through distributors
USB updates at coin door

#941 3 years ago

That all sounds awesome. I really hope I can play one soon because this is towards the top of my list.

#942 3 years ago
Quoted from Aquapin:

Grabbed this from another post:
Lots of changes to Houdini:
1.Added lighting down at flippers with “theater” inspired spotlights.
2.Removed part of plastic ramp and made it a wire form.
3.Revised stage marquee playfield mini lcd
4. Catapult refined is now upper 90’s success. Trying to implement smart learning in game if a miss is recorded.
5. Custom side blades will be available. Trying to fit in bom.
6. Magic glass developed to compete with invisiglass/pdi
7. Shaker kit will be developed. Available as add on.
Set up for initial 1,000 units.
Weight of game 275
Next game unlicensed
90 day all inclusive warranty/ 1yr monitors warranty
Parts available to buy direct and through distributors
USB updates at coin door

Wow, the weight is 275!? That's HALF of a JJP game! lol

Interesting they have to make their own Invisiglass/PDI. Licensing i guess? I hope it's cheaper than $300.

Did anybody take any pictures or anything? This is driving me crazy

#943 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Wow, the weight is 275!? That's HALF of a JJP game! lol
Interesting they have to make their own Invisiglass/PDI. Licensing i guess? I hope it's cheaper than $300.
Did anybody take any pictures or anything? This is driving me crazy

JJP widebodies weigh about 380lbs. Think DI is around 340lbs?

They won't make any glass. They're just not going to buy at a huge markup from JJP or import from Germany (again at large cost). It will no doubt use a similar surface treatment method to Roman's/PDI, JJP Invisiglass and Stern's product, though where it will fit in the current lineup we won't know until we see it. Currently Roman's / PDI is a lot better than the Stern & JJP products.

#944 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

They won't make any glass. They're just not going to buy at a huge markup from JJP or import from Germany (again at large cost). It will no doubt use a similar surface treatment method to Roman's/PDI, JJP Invisiglass and Stern's product, though where it will fit in the current lineup we won't know until we see it. Currently Roman's / PDI is a lot better than the Stern & JJP products.

I'm sure you're right about not making the glass - I guess I meant that it would have to be separately branded. I wonder who makes it ? This seems like such a huge opportunity to take over the market. Roman's glass is amazing, but there is no way he is able to sell in mass quantities, which will always keep the price high. Really too bad Roman is in such a terrible (for the consumer) situation in the US with PDI - hopefully that agreement isn't in perpetuity.

For me, it makes no sense to pay the extra $100 it costs vs getting Invisiglass, or (gasp!) the Stern one, when I could get 3 for the price of 2. PDI is definitely better, I can't dispute that - but not $200 better, which is what the premium is over Stern's solution. I have Invisiglass on my Hobbit, and it looks just amazing... or rather it looks like *nothing* ! haha

#945 3 years ago

They didn't give a price but hinted that it would be a price everyone would like and would fit all standard pinball machines.

#946 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

I'm sure you're right about not making the glass - I guess I meant that it would have to be separately branded. I wonder who makes it ? This seems like such a huge opportunity to take over the market. Roman's glass is amazing, but there is no way he is able to sell in mass quantities, which will always keep the price high. Really too bad Roman is in such a terrible (for the consumer) situation in the US with PDI - hopefully that agreement isn't in perpetuity.
For me, it makes no sense to pay the extra $100 it costs vs getting Invisiglass, or (gasp!) the Stern one, when I could get 3 for the price of 2. PDI is definitely better, I can't dispute that - but not $200 better, which is what the premium is over Stern's solution. I have Invisiglass on my Hobbit, and it looks just amazing... or rather it looks like *nothing* ! haha

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly sure there are tariffs on glass panel imports, so both those and the customs clearance would add to the costs.

Possible that's being circumvented on the small volumes. Larger volumes - no.

Also, of course PDI want a good margin, or they won't sell it. So yeah, I don't see it getting cheaper in the US any time soon.

#947 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly sure there are tariffs on glass panel imports, so both those and the customs clearance would add to the costs.
Possible that's being circumvented on the small volumes. Larger volumes - no.
Also, of course PDI want a good margin, or they won't sell it. So yeah, I don't see it getting cheaper in the US any time soon.

Yep, I'm sure you're right. Kind of a bummer, but it gives the high end market exclusivity I suppose.

#948 3 years ago

is there any gameplay video from expo for Houdini?

#949 3 years ago

Morning all, just a few quick thoughts before I head over to expo.

Magic glass is incredible, while I am no expert on the other products, they put a sheet on my machine one day and didn't tell me, I went to go do reach down to do something and smashed my hand into it, did not even realize it was there. One of the three games at the show has it so I am sure someone can give an unbiased assessment.

I'll post some of the photos from our expo presentation when at my laptop with decent internet., I think it may have been recorded, I'll find out.

#950 3 years ago

New gameplay videos please!

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