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Alvin G. and CO - "A Tribute to the Gottlieb Name"


By xTheBlackKnightx

3 years ago



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#201 1 year ago

Here’s some more. It’s starting to feel like their art and engineering dept.’s around here.

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#202 1 year ago

Computer geek in me is wondering if the 51/4 floppys are readable.
Very cool stuff.

#203 1 year ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Computer geek in me is wondering if the 51/4 floppys are readable.
Very cool stuff.

Thanks! I’m just glad they survived all these years. There might not be anything on them other than drill data for the boards, but they’re neat pieces of history for sure.

#204 1 year ago

Yet another of Service Manager Ed Schmidt’s manuals with corrections and notes, and some addendums and typed changes for the MC manual.

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#205 1 year ago

Great stuff, Matt! I am hoping that you will be actively trying to retrieve the data from those 5-1/4" floppys soon.

#206 1 year ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Computer geek in me is wondering if the 51/4 floppys are readable.
Very cool stuff.

I know a bunch of people still using c64 5 1/4" disks from the late 80s/early 90s. If they were stored ok, they're probably readable. The real question would be is there anything that can interpret the data on them anymore.

#207 1 year ago
Quoted from Betelgeuse:

Great stuff, Matt! I am hoping that you will be actively trying to retrieve the data from those 5-1/4" floppys soon.

Thanks, Brian! I don’t have any way of checking them myself. They all appear to be drill templates for circuit boards, and some of them are boards that never went into production, so aside from seeing if there’s anything else cool on them like notes, etc., I’m not sure if it would be worth pursuing.

One thing’s for sure....these piles of schematics and drawings here will make it easier and cheaper to reproduce boards if we need to in the future. I now have schematics and Mylar templates/overlays for many of the 28 or so main boards that they designed/used. Some lamp boards too.

I also have the schematics for all 3 transformers that they used. No more having those reverse engineered like a couple people have done. So great that this stuff survived!

#208 1 year ago

Sounds like you could really pad out the Alvin G pinwiki section.

Really great to see that a bunch of this stuff has survived.

#209 1 year ago
Quoted from ajfclark:

Sounds like you could really pad out the Alvin G pinwiki section.
Really great to see that a bunch of this stuff has survived.

Yes, I need to look into that again someday.

#210 1 year ago

The risc that we have to reproduce pcb is, right now, not very high. There are still pcb available. I have a bunch of pcb for my machines.
They are all "old style" and from the pros good to repair. Therefor I am looking forward that we do not have to reproduce within the next 20 years.

Matt .. Grerat stuff for your museum !!

My whole Alvin G. collection will move in autum to a pinball collectors club in Aachen. They have several rooms for pinball machines and will take my collection for some years. All machines will be in one room along with my other stuff. So I have space in my gameroom and the Alvins will be playable for everybody. The club takes care on the machines.

#211 1 year ago
Quoted from TomDK:

The risc that we have to reproduce pcb is, right now, not very high. There are still pcb available. I have a bunch of pcb for my machines.
They are all "old style" and from the pros good to repair. Therefor I am looking forward that we do not have to reproduce within the next 20 years.
Matt .. Grerat stuff for your museum !!
My whole Alvin G. collection will move in autum to a pinball collectors club in Aachen. They have several rooms for pinball machines and will take my collection for some years. All machines will be in one room along with my other stuff. So I have space in my gameroom and the Alvins will be playable for everybody. The club takes care on the machines.

Thank you, Tom!

That’s great that your collection will be enjoyed by so many. Very nice of you.

As far as the boards go, for the most part you are correct. There are several boards that are still readily available, but I get hit up quite frequently for all 3 PSBs that they used (PCA-001, PCA-006 and PCA-019A) as well as the original flasher board (PCA-007). These are all tough-to-impossible to find. The flasher boards I had already started on getting remade, but my board guy is temporarily out of action. These will be redone for sure though.

#212 1 year ago

I really enjoy following this thread, cool stuff to see. Thanks to all who have been contributing.

#213 1 year ago

Agreed demand for most boards will probably remain low. I have 3-4 of almost every board they ever made. They don't work, but I could always send them in for repair if needed. I plan on pairing down my machines and maybe letting pistol, punchy and maybe al's go so dunno what to do with all the extras.

#214 12 months ago

I brought home a beautiful Alvin G USA Football tonight. Serial number indicates it is #72. It has been sitting in a basement for years but looks almost new. The rubber rings are all dry rotted but it powers up and looks like it will be good to go with a new set of rings. Manual was missing but it included a factory first aid kit with fuses,bulbs and a key ring plastic. There can’t be too many like this still in circulation!

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#215 11 months ago

Here are a few photos of the machine that I bought. It is really nice cosmetically.

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#216 11 months ago

Wow nice cabinet!

#217 11 months ago

That is in really great shape, congrats!

Word of the wise, do not clean the cabinet with anything wet. The paint will run/come off if you do.

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#218 10 months ago

Noticed a Garage Band for sale and it has the same weird extra chip on the DMD driver board:
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The seller says prototype? https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/al-s-garage-band-goes-on-a-world-tour-proto-w-xtras

#219 10 months ago
Quoted from ajfclark:

Noticed a Garage Band for sale and it has the same weird extra chip on the DMD driver board:
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The seller says prototype?

If the game is a prototype, look closely at the flyer and compare the features.
This was a prototype, and one of the most obvious differences is the missing CD spinner "note" targets, among added plastics and changes to protect against stuck balls in corners. There are other physical differences as well.

Short List:

- The game did not include the "piano keys" switch feature beyond the skill shot
- Skill shot coding was not finished
- Games plastics were different, or not included such as the "boom box" in the right corner
- Backglass colors were different, and additional mirroring was added
- Upper guitar mini-playfield was a different design in terms of art
- Playfield production colors were slightly changed.
- GI lighting was slightly different
- Feature insert colors were changed
- CD Spinner scoop had a a "cow catcher" front design
- Flipper bats included the AGC logo, and were removed

This and a host of other small stuff.

To make it simple, if the "note" targets are on the playfield, it's NOT a prototype, and the seller is full of crap.

I am betting they are, because most people cannot differentiate between a production, sample, or prototype game.
Ask them the above areas and see what happens.
Obvious answer will be "I don't know".

ROMs doesn't mean prototype, as there are examples where:
1) ROMS were not updated
2) The game could be a sample
3) DMD board was swapped

#220 10 months ago

Thanks xtheblackknightx

Do you know if any prototypes ever existed with drop targets or did that get killed too early in the prototyping? I've always assumed that's why the faces were stuck on the plastic above the band member targets.

Do you know when the upper of the two right VUKs got dropped?

#221 10 months ago
Quoted from ajfclark:

Do you know if any prototypes ever existed with drop targets or did that get killed too early in the prototyping? I've always assumed that's why the faces were stuck on the plastic above the band member targets.
Do you know when the upper of the two right VUKs got dropped?

The drops were costed out of the design before production. The prototype that I posted a pic of earlier had them, but even that game was destroyed. The early games that had the extra saucer were only done to use up the playfields on hand. This game in question is just one from early in the run. Not a proto.

#222 10 months ago

Hey guys help me join the club! I’m looking for a Mystery Castle!!!

#223 10 months ago
Quoted from MattElder:

The drops were costed out of the design before production. The prototype that I posted a pic of earlier had them, but even that game was destroyed. The early games that had the extra saucer were only done to use up the playfields on hand. This game in question is just one from early in the run. Not a proto.

It's a shame the drops didn't make it.

I thought it wasn't a proto as it's got the same features as mine. It is interesting that the extra piggybacked chip is on the DMD driver though. I wonder when they changed/fixed that.

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#224 10 months ago

Does anyone have detailed pictures of Dinosaur Eggs? I picked one up over the weekend. The handles to move the playfield are not attached to anything currently. It looks like there was post rubber tying them to the playfield at one point, but I do not know if it is correct or what size is needed.

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#225 8 months ago

Finally found some!

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#226 8 months ago
Quoted from dung:

Finally found some!
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Pinball Spare Parts Australia just posted a bunch on their facebook page.

#227 8 months ago
Quoted from ajfclark:

Pinball Spare Parts Australia just posted a bunch on their facebook page.

Will try and snag some more then, did not know they posted on facebook thanks! Drat, they posted 10 flipper bats, pretty sure six of mine are from their ebay page as I got a lot of the coils/plungers in their facebook picture.

#228 7 months ago

Finally scored a NOS set of Mystery Castle ramps - been looking for a while!

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#229 7 months ago
Quoted from Damonator:

Finally scored a NOS set of Mystery Castle ramps - been looking for a while!

Mayfairamusement.com is that where they came from?

#230 7 months ago
Quoted from RWH:

Mayfairamusement.com is that where they came from?

No - sorry, just a recycled box. They came from another Pinsider, but probably PSPA (Australia) before that if I had to guess.

#231 7 months ago
Quoted from Damonator:

No - sorry, just a recycled box. They came from another Pinsider, but probably PSPA (Australia) before that if I had to guess.

Sweet score!

#232 7 months ago

Can anyone tell me the size of the bolts for the topper on an Alvin G Soccer Ball? I finally have it set up in a tall enough basement, and I don't seem to have any bolts.

#233 7 months ago

Which bolts? The bolts that hold the bracket to the cab?

#234 7 months ago

Yes, those eight!

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#235 7 months ago

Any have any luck putting an NVRAM into one of these games? I have a customer with a Punchy that he was looking to NVRAM. I unfortunately don't have an Alvin G, so I'm trying to help him troubleshoot in the dark.

Thanks!

#236 7 months ago

I have several pcb´s as spares expect powerboards.
In the US and Australia easy to get, in Europe a little harder. So if needet feel free to contact me.

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#237 4 months ago

For those that follow Facebook, a recent interview with Michael Gottlieb by Naomi Shedd. Very good in terms of providing history, not just about pinball.
Time moves on...

https://www.facebook.com/naomi.shedd/videos/10157089816243453/

#238 4 months ago

Can anyone tell me the correct parts for the post that holds the lower corner of the video mode ramp on Garage Band?

I lifted up the plastic to see why the post was always rattling around and found this:
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#239 62 days ago

Shopping out my usa football. Does anyone know the list of rubbers needed? Would be the same as a ag football and ag soccer ball.

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#240 50 days ago

Just wanted to post a pic of the newest item added to the Alvin G & Co. Museum....a MC backglass autographed by Alvin back in '99.

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#241 49 days ago

Is it tech a backglass? Its not a translite that is for sure.

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