Bobby Orr's Power Play
Bally, 1978
Centaur
Bally, 1981
Cheetah
Stern Electronics, 1980
Dolly Parton
Bally, 1979
Fathom
Bally, 1981
Seawitch
Stern Electronics, 1980
Star Gazer
Stern Electronics, 1980
Voltan Escapes Cosmic Doom
Bally, 1979Quoted from Tsskinne:Yoppsicled this bad boy up today. Anyone got a spare Evel backglass laying around?
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You should have a backglass with Evel riding on the back of Centaur. And a word on those sticks--- "They're not just cool, they're cool white..."
For those that have been asking for color LEDs, the "Yoppsicle Spectrum" line has been ordered. I would expect to receive them in the next 3 weeks or so. I'll let everyone know when they have arrived and I've added them to the store. Thanks.
I finally quit working my second job at the bar and now I can spend my Friday nights soldering instead of slinging beers. Thanks to Yoppsicles my Harlem has every insert working for the first time every! NOS playfield, restored cabinet, original backglass. This game won best 1970s restore at Pinball at the Zoo in 2019 and it looks better now than it ever has! Throw on a horror movie and two hours later we are in business!
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Small problem is that the sheet contains 50 of them, and Paragon has a little over 50 lights! I ended up choosing to leave some that are colored, lit by standard LEDs, at least for now.
I may also do the same thing to my Bally KISS machine, but due to that grid in the center (where I’ve already updated it for 555 LEDs), it probably won’t even need 50 yoppsicles. Yeah, I know the extras could spill over back to Paragon, but I’ve got some other projects already in line…
Jeff
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Excitedly waiting on news!
Quoted from PghPinballRescue:Excitedly waiting on news!
We tried them out in the other thread, the colors were excellent
The spectrum line is now available at my shop.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1360-yoppsicle
Thanks again all!
Yopp
Quoted from dyopp21:The spectrum line is now available at my shop.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1360-yoppsicle
Thanks again all!
Yopp
Hell yeah!
Quoted from casher2006:anyone figure out how to use these on Bally's 6803 games yet
I hate these don't work with the 6803 and I don't know of a solution to fix that. I seem to remember reading a thread somewhere on Pinside that even the regular LED bulbs don't work well with the 6803.
Yopp
I put LEDs in a Big Bally Truck Stop and a Bally Beat the Clock, with no issues whatsoever.
They were standard LEDs from Comet... the 69 cent ones.
I’ve heard that regular LEDs don’t work well, too (in 6803), but they work fine in my Party Animal. When I installed them a few years ago (from Comet) I had my fingers crossed, and they worked fine.
Is it possible that a capacitor could be implemented to “smooth out” the pulses they get from a lamp matrix? I realize this might create polarity issues, though.
I’ve also talked with some “older” people that claim a machine I think looks fine looks “flickery” to them, so other people’s vision is different, I guess.
Jeff
"simple" LEDs don't work well in 6803s, but the ones with the regulation chips (or diode pair and caps) that can be installed either way in the socket seem to work fine.
So it's possible a yopps6803 could be made, but it would require a few extra components
Do these have the color they are written on the board anywhere?
Or any easy way to tell what color each one is without powering it up?
For what it's worth... these are awesome! I have not replaced all my LEDs, but I am spot replacing my flakey lamps with yopcicles and it is absolutely easier/quicker/cheaper to install these than old school lamp sockets. These are great for inserts, but don't think they'd be that great for most GI.
Of note, if you buy them direct from Yoppsicle off this site as opposed to through a third party they are about 1/2 price.
Quoted from PghPinballRescue:FYI, most star rollovers are well suited to being lit by 2 of these, 1 on each side of the switch.
Haha! This is the same thing I do. It requires throwing in a few jumper wires but not a lot of work at all.
Funny how us hobbyists often come to the same conclusions separately.
Yopp
Quoted from vid1900:"simple" LEDs don't work well in 6803s, but the ones with the regulation chips (or diode pair and caps) that can be installed either way in the socket seem to work fine.
So it's possible a yopps6803 could be made, but it would require a few extra components
As I've stated in other places, I'm a hobbyist but not any sort of EE. The original Yoppsicle has a super simple circuit that I could somewhat understand. Embarrassingly, I tried to work with a couple people on one of those freelance service websites to try and develop a yoppsicle that would work in a Williams machine (Blackout was the machine I was using as a test) that uses a lamp matrix. I spent a few thousand dollars and a good bit of time having test yoppsicles made and none of them worked (that's the embarrassing part). They all ghosted, even with an additional diode placed in the circuit.
Not wanting to give up so easily, I also talked to a fellow hobbyist about it and we kind of worked a deal where I gave him one of my project pinball machines and he would help me work on the circuit. Also part of our deal was he threw in a board that would allow me to update the ruleset on my Meteor. A few months later he came back and said he was too busy to work on my project and it died right there. I was disappointed but not much I could do really. It was just an old project World Cup Soccer (the 1970's version) that I gave him so it was no great loss.
At that point I put a pin in that project and worked on getting the color ones done.
Having said all that, I still really appreciate all the support other hobbyist have shown for the couple of models of Yoppsicle I do have on the market. I fill several orders a week and that makes me very, very happy.
Yopp
Quoted from Grangeomatic:I’ve heard that regular LEDs don’t work well, too (in 6803), but they work fine in my Party Animal. When I installed them a few years ago (from Comet) I had my fingers crossed, and they worked fine.
Is it possible that a capacitor could be implemented to “smooth out” the pulses they get from a lamp matrix? I realize this might create polarity issues, though.
I’ve also talked with some “older” people that claim a machine I think looks fine looks “flickery” to them, so other people’s vision is different, I guess.
Jeff
There are at least two different 6803 OS and the feature lamp routine updates closer to zero cross in one of them which will cause the SCR flickering like in a classic bally game, others will work fine. The games that have the same power on self flash routine as Special Force should work okay with LEDs.
The multiphasing of the 6803 lamps is going to make the feature lamps strobe at 60Hz no matter what. I know some of the LEDs have a capacitor inside which will help deal with the 50% off time 60hz flicker (strobe light). In Special force a lot of feature lamps are used GI. With LEDs installed in the feature lamp GI of special force the 60Hz strobe light effect was unbearable. Like looking at a 1990s monitor set at 60hz blink blink blink, specially from your peripheral vision.
Quoted from dyopp21:As I've stated in other places, I'm a hobbyist but not any sort of EE. The original Yoppsicle has a super simple circuit that I could somewhat understand. Embarrassingly, I tried to work with a couple people on one of those freelance service websites to try and develop a yoppsicle that would work in a Williams machine (Blackout was the machine I was using as a test) that uses a lamp matrix. I spent a few thousand dollars and a good bit of time having test yoppsicles made and none of them worked (that's the embarrassing part). They all ghosted, even with an additional diode placed in the circuit.
Odd as I have Blackout and no problem with cheap "retro" LED's from Comet.
In WMS games I've noticed the amount of ghosting cane be influenced by the driver board. Small differences between the switching times board to board seems to ends up having small differences in what lamps ghost.
So has anyone gone down the rabbit hole on some simple ideas to get rid of ghosting? Could always cheat and take apart one of the "ghost buster" LED bulbs and see what is inside of them. I am guessing a teensy bridge rectifier and capacitor is at least part of it.
It’s just another Yoppsicle job on a Hotdoggin’. But what makes this one special is that my 16 year old son did it unassisted. I’ll be lining up another few dozen Bally/Stern projects in the shop for him to do!
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Quoted from barakandl:Could always cheat and take apart one of the "ghost buster" LED bulbs and see what is inside of them. I am guessing a teensy bridge rectifier and capacitor is at least part of it.
Exactly.
Pull one apart and just use the same 4 components
Quoted from dyopp21:It’s just another Yoppsicle job on a Hotdoggin’. But what makes this one special is that my 16 year old son did it unassisted. I’ll be lining up another few dozen Bally/Stern projects in the shop for him to do!
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Can’t wait to get my Hotdoggin going! We need a dualing Hotdoggin stream. It’s whAt the world needs!
Quoted from Tsskinne:Can’t wait to get my Hotdoggin going! We need a dualing Hotdoggin stream. It’s whAt the world needs!
Hotdoggin is the 5th and final Bally Superwidebody in my collection. Will be adding these boards when I restore mine this winter.
Quoted from Sheprd:Hotdoggin is the 5th and final Bally Superwidebody in my collection. Will be adding these boards when I restore mine this winter.
Let’s do a double restore! My new backglass just got delivered!
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Warm white Yoppsicles are out of stock!!
Comet Pinball bought out the stock I had 
. I have more on the way and I just got an email that they should be here by Friday. I'll post an update here when they arrive and I have them back in stock in my shop.
Seeing the bit about the warm lights being on order, it made me remember to ask if anyone has 20 or so warm white Yops they want to sell. I’m doing a swap on a Flash Gordon and have a set of 50. That’s about 15 or so short. So, if anyone ended up with extras they want to sell, let me know.
I did finish up installing 54 warm white Yoppsicles for Captive_Ball in the inserts. These were the first Revision so I added a 470 ohm resistor on each board. He installed Comet Sunlights 2SMD in the GI. Looks great and has no flickering inserts.
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Quoted from zahner:Seeing the bit about the warm lights being on order, it made me remember to ask if anyone has 20 or so warm white Yops they want to sell. I’m doing a swap on a Flash Gordon and have a set of 50. That’s about 15 or so short. So, if anyone ended up with extras they want to sell, let me know.
The always awesome Yoppsicle-Man is taking care of me. Thanks Yop!
Quoted from dyopp21:Comet Pinball bought out the stock I had . I have more on the way and I just got an email that they should be here by Friday. I'll post an update here when they arrive and I have them back in stock in my shop.
Reminds me I have to order a few hundred for future projects.
Quoted from PinballManiac40:Thanks. Just purchased a sheet to finish out Hotdoggin' for the Houston Arcade Expo in November.
2022 officially the year of Hotdoggin!
Quoted from Tsskinne:2022 officially the year of Hotdoggin!
I will post a picture when I have the Yoppsicles in. Game has been playing for at least 3 years now. I think all the kinks are worked out.
Quoted from dyopp21:The spectrum line is now available at my shop.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1360-yoppsicle
Thanks again all!
Yopp
David, please consider adding ORANGE to your color options please! Thanks!
Quoted from Sheprd:dyopp21
David, please consider adding ORANGE to your color options please! Thanks!
Consider it done.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1360-yoppsicle/07208-orange-yoppsicle-spectrum-led-stick-panel-of-10
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