Quoted from Drenden:
This is exactly how I feel. The cabinet looks like a zizzle. It's horribly unattractive and the backbox being that thin looks cheap and toyish. Also the bezel holding the glass is just a no go for me.
I have a Full Throttle. Cabinet looks great--it looks like a pinball cabinet(!). In pinball lighting, those lighted side panels look really cool--can't believe other companies haven't done this. The bezel fades away once you own it and play it for a while...don't even notice it. As for the "thickness" of the backbox, that's something else that you don't even notice after you own it(especially straight on). Another cool thing about the backbox is that it comes off easily for transport/moving. You are just freaking out because it looks slightly "different". Honestly, I don't give any of those things a second thought.
You realize that once you own this cabinet and backbox you can use it to drop in an entirely new game at 60% cost of a full game? That reason alone should tamper any doubts about this design which is honestly only very slightly different than the usual pinball.
The cabinet is the heighway cabinet that is used on all their games...clearly any whining over it looking different is coming from people that haven't been following the company. For Christsake it looks exactly like every other pinball cabinet except it has lighted side panels which look killer. The head is thinner...waaaaaaa..they should put a bunch of extra heavy wood up there that serves no structural purpose?
In a line of pins the only change is the thickness of the backbox. What are you nuts on about here?
The cabinet is soooooo different from other cabs(stolen pic from Frolic)....wait, no it isn't...at all...hmmmm
Quoted from PACMAN:
The cabinet is a big part of what draws players in, it completes the experience.
For all those people/locations that have 1 pin with nothing else next to it--cab side art hardly ever gets seen and replacing it with lighted artwork that is swappable for more games per pin is a no brainer.
This is a taste argument, subtle and classy vs in your face stern-esque photoshop horseshit, no offense The game is intended to put you in the Alien universe as an actor, not you watching the Alien movie as a viewer--just a different vision. Plus has been stated, callouts, video clips, modes etc will feature movie specific sounds and LCD visuals.
Quoted from vid1900:
Obviously, using less wood on the new thin backboxes is a greener choice.
Lighter cabs mean less fuel to ship - Greener.
Smaller boxes mean more boxes per container - Greener.
And for the end user, it probably means that the pin can fit in a smaller vehicle for transport - possibly Greener.
Time to let go of those 1950's heads folks, the future is here.
And there's nothing in the head...just the LCD or translight. No hardware. So you don't need the structure of 12 pounds of plywood or whatever. It comes off like an old EM as well. People get focused on the weirdest things.
Quoted from delt31:
how does that work? Swapping out PFs too?
....yes. Check the pinside user " HEIGHWAYPINBALL " they have several threads...
Quoted from bigdaddy07:
I'll have to admit that I have been excited to see a really cool art package on cabinets and that does play into my purchase decision. However, it always ends up the same way for me, once I get the game in my game room, I pay little to no attention to the side art and focus on the playfield and back glass. It becomes very irrelevant for me personally once I own it, but its really exciting to see on the flyers. I think that with the lit up panels it may draw my attention back to the side art (though its smaller) at least while the game is on.
even more true when most of the people on here own 3+ machines so you hardly ever SEE the sides of a game.
Did the Heighway cabinet just debut? Or has it existed for a couple years in the exact same shape and form and there was never any chance that it would be different since it's part of their game swap system which will allow you to have unlimited games in the same cabinet?
My Full Throttle seems rock solid, sturdy, just as "manly" as the not at all drastically different traditional cab which the ONLY difference is decals vs lighted side art.....what are you all on about?
What is different about the cabinet? The overall dimensions? No. The overall shape? No. It has lighted side panels that allow you to swap them out for different games. The head is removable and has no hardware in it...hence no need for extra material/weight. That's. The. Only. Change.
Quoted from alveolus:
There are many options of pins with great gameplay, yet limited space in my game room.
then you would be the perfect person if they made a sort of "universal" cabinet which you could then switch the entire game out in 5 minutes and have a new game to play....if only a company was doing something that innovative. I could foresee the company charging maybe 60% of the full price for one of these...let's call them "kits"....if only
Quoted from delt31:
We're not talking about swapping out a pair of socks here - we're talking super fragile, highly likely to get scratched and an absolutely gigantic piece of hardware.
now you're just being silly. Buy, don't buy, but don't make silly arguments...socks...what's next a "cargument"?
AND, they are going to have a box specifically designed for storage...but you shouldn't get the game so don't listen to common sense.
Quoted from alveolus:
I'm not sure I understand your sarcasm
my sarcasm comes from the apparent fact that you really seem to want to dispute the Heighway swap system or the cabinet or something... I don't know what Pin2k has to do with the price of potatoes here. They had a couple games that took forever to change the software. This is 5 minutes and then plug in a usb stick. Pin2k owners don't care about artwork. Great. OK. Whatever.
Is your "argument" that Pin2k is better? I have no idea what you are on about. Buy game. Don't buy game. I've got a Full Throttle and love it and will be grabbing a brand new widebody Alien game at 60% of full price. If you want to revive Pin2k, have at it...if you want to complain about another company innovating and competing, have at it. Good day sir. I said good day!
Quoted from frolic:
I'm looking forward to the day when there are several Heighway titles/kits available, and people are selling/swapping/trading them by putting the playfield in the back of the car, and not having to lug a cabinet around and up/down stairs.
I have a dream that one day this pinball nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these lighter pinball playfields instead of full cabinets to be self-evident, that all pinball machines are not created equal."
and we should start eliminating luxury parts like service rails...total boondoggle for the service rail lobby
Quoted from Mr68:
People report observations all of the time. Not all are positive as you seem to wish here.
The problem is you have a track record of saying some really specific, foolish, apparently 100% false things about Heighway in particular. You CLEARLY have some grudge against them/him. It's great that people take the time to report at Expo, but you have an ax to grind with Heighway and I wouldn't take anything you say about them at face value.
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