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Hope springs eternal!

I live in America and virtually all the collectors I know are out of room, doesn't matter if they have 5 or 100 machines. They all buy to capacity or over. I was looking forward to paying much less for a second game without the cabinet that could be stored under the main game.

Seldom see basements in the Bay Area where I live. People use their garages, living rooms, etc...

I have a game room that fits 5 machines and can fit 4 in my living room. Sure there is more space in the house but I think my wife is being generous as it is.

I have 20 more games soldiered in the garage and 10 more scattered at friends homes. Yes, I have a sickness.

A friend has over 100 games. He built a large structure to house them and is out of room.

Again, most of the collectors I know have reached the one out for one in phase, either due to physical limitations or "must get along with wife".

You left out the part where he said, "...once some games hit the street."

It may be stating the obvious but people really want this game. They also don't want to lose their money.

In my psychology, if I back out of the game at the pre-order price, it's unlikely I'll buy back in at a much higher price later.

If there are many others like me, it's in the new owners best interest to do everything they can to keep people in until they can show real progress shipping games, even if they could immediately grant all the refund requests.

This may mean dribbling out refunds to show they have the money to refund people and prevent a run on the bank.

It may mean shipping a few games out even though the production line isn't up yet to show games are being made.

All my opinions only, I have no inside knowledge.

One reason for such a large increase in price may be to reduce the number of people asking for refunds.

No need to give up. Just wait until Cointaker has them in stock to buy.

I don't see much upside in pre-ordering at this point.

I think a lot of LE buyers have bailed and I don't expect there will a rush of new buyers at the higher prices until Heighway proves they can produce a solid game.

You should have plenty of opportunity to buy an LE if and when they start shipping in quantity. Hopefully with the added benefit of initial bugs being worked out.

There is certainly a lot more reasons to believe in Heighway's success than a few months ago when Andrew was running the company.

Still, we've gotten a glimmer from other start-ups as to how difficult it is to go from building a few machines by hand to setting up an entire factory to produce a thousand machines, ie parts suppliers, assembly line, build and test procedures and trained workers.

All the desire and good intentions in the world are not always enough.

Let's say I'm cautiously awaiting developments and hoping the new owners can succeed where Andrew failed. Not only for those of us who want the game, but for all those who put their hearts and souls into the game to get it to this point.

I no longer have money on the line so it makes waiting much easier.

I can, JJP, and they made it over the hump. Hopefully so will Heighway.

Edit: Oh, do you mean that did those things and failed? If so, I can't either.

I'd like to see them put out enough games to keep their business running. Doesn't matter if it's 10, 20, 50, or 100 games per month.

For example, say they have 500 games on order, at 100 games/month they'd be finished in 5 months. Then what do they do? Lay off all the workers and shutdown the production side of the factory until the next game is ready?

More games have been produced and more refunds have been processed since the new owners took over.

Though game production, refunds, support and communication could be better, wouldn't you say the outlook is quite a bit brighter than if the company we're still in Andrew's hands?

Edit: Apologies, this comment is off topic.