Are those adhesive or do they just lay on top?

Posting in an Alien thread wondering why there's never been a Die Hard pin

OMG?? Are there really some sitting in boxes? Or is there a story behind this?

I know it's an OG, that's why I asked.

Ohhhh I like that! Is that custom or is someone making them?

Did not realize that was new to the PB model. Interesting. I would say it makes the game...easier most likely? I will say it is cool when the alien throws the ball around that orbit and it goes in.

Will be great if they can work the PB code updates/fixes to also work with the HWY ones!

I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with current events, but that was 4-5 years ago. Pins are way more expensive now. And with that price, MANY of them didn't work. Way beyond anything broken on PB. While you can buy a HWY now that finally has all the kinks fixed (by the people who bought them), the PB just came out. I understand there is some animosity over the whole ordeal, but this isn't a 'OG vs New' situation. We can debate why they didn't fix certain designs for sure, but so much gaslighting and pretending the bad history isn't there. There is no denying it that the 7777 price tag on this is cheap by todays standards.

Yeah, I don't disagree that the HWY is a work of art asthetically.

Last I checked, trying to make people feel shitty about their purchase in an owners thread is pretty trollish. You didn't add anything meaningful to the thread until 3-4 pages later. Maybe that wasn't your intent, but that is how it came off.

Even if not, the pettiness from people in this thread is pretty bad.

Look man, its clear that you have some emotional baggage around this game, and that's cool. I don't think anyone attacked 'you' in the other thread, but things were a bit heated at the time because of what were perceived as attacks on them from ppl here. I think kcciaio hit it on the head regarding things. You are always going to have people who are 'mine is better than yours' mentality, but the bulk of the people who deal with all the drama around this particular machine are in it because they are Alien fans. We deal with it because we love the franchise and it is a dream theme, stupid or smart? I don't know, but I for one think we are all in it together, some just been dealing with it longer.

I avoided much of this thread over the years so I would not be enticed to buy one due to my own personal price limits so I admit, I don't know all the details about it. But what I did know is how the community got together and made things better which is great. I never expected to own one. I am perfectly happy with a 'stripped down' version since the gameplay is basically identical. I love the game. Yes I think the HWY model is the best visually appealing of the bunch, and clearly I don't agree with all the decisions PB made, but I'm just happy to own the game and glad more people can get their hands on one if they chose.

It is about the size of OLD bally's from what I can tell. Like..it seems to be the same size as my Xenon head. I would not say it is standard though. IMO the Alien head on the OG was always strange looking because it was so thin. This one appears to be normal thickness.

The reason it sits so low is because there's not that extra neck piece that that era of backboxes had. Instead it sits directly on the cabinet. Asthetically, it appears fine when you are in front of the machine. Another thing that seems like and odd choice, maybe trying to replicate the look of the OG without completely copying it.

Fair assessment, but tell everyone how much time you spent - or the previous owner - spent fixing that machine? How much additional cost went into it to get it running? I think these are the things people are refusing to acknowledge when making the comparisons. The game has been out 5 years? How many years and what number? Was it an early build? A later build? A later cobbled build? These things matter. I mean, we have an entire thread here of 'non - partly working' Aliens for years. The revisionist history, and simple gaslighting is getting to be a bit much.

Just remember - most of you paid more to double what the PB machine is, and many of those were shit coming out of the box. I played a few OG's on location a few years ago, and they ran for less than 30 seconds. This is why I told myself I would never pay the rarity tax on this game. So let's not pretend that they are flawless. There is less than 1/3 of those PB games in the wild right now compared to the HWY, and many of those apparently ended up on location (which is simply a horrible idea). They will hopefully continue to improve as they make more.

That's awesome. I'm in the same boat with my remake. Hardly any issues. So I guess that means everyone else is incorrect and they are both flawless machines!

I hope you see my point.

You're arguing the wrong point. We know there are issues, but you have people here pretending that the HWY didn't have more than its fair share on most of the actually made games and comparing the fixed games with a game that just came out. There's what roughly 100 of them? There's only 40ish of the PB.

The only people saying it doesn't have the same atmosphere are the people who have an OG. It probably doesn't but it doesn't impact the gameplay at all. As for feeling cheap...it's practically the same game. The only major difference is the cabinet not being a tank. It's still a heavy bitch. Maybe it's cheaper flipper switches - can't speak to that, but other than Sterns, all new games seem cheap in that area.

I completely get the side by side comparison, but in todays market, it just looks like a Standard versus an LE. And the cost difference kind of backs that up.

I think it is just the blanket statements that get annoying. It'd be like someone coming in here and stating that HWY Aliens are all pieces of crap that never work. There's going to be people who's experience doesn't match it and point it out.

It is pretty and unique for sure, but in 90% of people's tight side by side collections would be meaningless. I'm glad I could save some money for something that would not have had much impact in my collection. I've found that unless you are a hardcore pinball person, no one cares about bling or LCD screens etc. They just hit buttons barely paying attention to rules or videos. They DO pay attention to the backbox art, and the playfield lights, and the toys on it.

Nah, I don't think that no one cares. I was just explaining that to most people once you see it...you won't really see it normally. Given the option, we probably would have all liked to have the original sides because they are indeed badass.

That being said...I would not have a problem with all black cabs lol if it saved 1k.

Man I tell you...that side panel is the biggest thing I miss on the PB. Even though I'd never see it with how I line my games up, it is just amazing to look at and seems like a big miss.

Let me throw a bit of levity to the grumpy asses in this thread. Remove all the BS regarding the HWY version, overall the PB version plays better and is more stable. PB has worked out most of the issues they had. I have a very early ones and have had hardly any issues with mine. Would I trust it on a route? Nope, but I wouldn't trust a HWY on route either. I haven't ever found one that played correctly for very long.

For overall appearance, stock HWY wins. There are some unique things on the HWY version that just cannot be topped from an aesthetics perspective since PB removed them. With mods, PB is pretty good, just in different areas. I am not a fan of the Ripley version art, but that's because it matches the LV art which I didn't care for either.

For what they are asking at current prices for other games, if you are remotely interested in an Alien, Ripley version is a no brainer, but at the same time you get used right now for less - probably with mods as well. The one thing most of the HWY and PB Alien owners do agree on is that it's a great game overall.

A few points of clarity too. It is just new video (and maybe some callouts from video). There are no new modes or gameplay changes.

It's stated on the website/posts regarding the game.

Um..I forget exactly who...it's an Italian company...good quality. Not sure if it is different than HWY's though.