Why are pre-orders still even allowed on Pinside? Haven't enough people been f-ed over yet?
Why are pre-orders still even allowed on Pinside? Haven't enough people been f-ed over yet?
The standard back glass art is.... zzzzzzz. Really nothing to it. Not Aurichs fault as I know clients/license holders are a nightmare to work with and hog tie you creatively but crossing my fingers the Playfield and LE Art kick ass.
Quoted from Aurich:
Last one for the night, The Chestburster. Only one of these, and it's connected with a controlled drop target. There might be a magnet involved.
That's it for tonight, but I'm enjoying putting little explanations together with closeups, maybe I'll do some more when I wake up, along with the playfield if people are digging it.
I can't decide if i actually like it not. It gets the job done i guess, but so do washing machines. There's not really any "art", just photoshop design and layout. It looks very similar to website design, a set background with strategically placed buttons and icons. Nothing really cohesive (comic book alien and movie alien should never show up in the same place). Plus there's nothing that draws your eye in like a killer looking alien dead center. I do like the inserts and decals/logos/patches though but the rest is kinda blurred together.
Uh... No images of actors, no video of actors, no call outs from actors. That's going to be a deal breaker. Without the cast there's no movie, just an alien, random ships and weapons.
Hope you guys can pull it off. Aliens without Ripley is like Rocky without Stallone.
Hmmmm. Stretching 1 story into 3 or in this case 4 movies reminds me of another franchise that had short people with hairy feet.
Sorry, the Power Loader's agent said no.
But, you can pretend that you ARE the Power Loader when you are playing.
Besides this isn't "Power Loader" its Aliens.
That's the logic explaining how Ripley is still part of the game.
Hmmm. Replace airlock can with something else...maybe something nobody has seen before...something innovative...how about...another screen? Brilliant!
The beacons look fine at any height.
Seriously though, I'm excited again about owning this machine. Its really come together. My only complaint.... (NO RIPLEY) but you can't always get what you want. Maybe a talented coder could hack into the system later and add some Ripley action for a home game.
Quoted from Hazoff:
Slam Tilt you tube post shows those beacons in action, look pretty nice actually.
» YouTube video
Looks like that far left ramp needs some work, the angle is so tight it bounces the ball back almost every time.
-EDIT- Looks like that's an old video, i think its been fixed.
Quoted from chadderack:
Just watched this vid on "Dialed In" which looks like a super fun game.
Quoted from chadderack:
Cool opinion. I find a pin about a phone that could destroy the world interesting. The game is like "Whirlwind 3000" with the natural disaster warnings starting and getting canceled (Pat Lawlor for you). The side flipper to lock a ball, magnets whipping things all over the place, and an enemy that attacks your flippers during multiball. If you shoot the enemy targets when they're attacking you you score a super jackpot. Holograms that you can shoot, super cool combos, a futuristic city getting destroyed on the backglass, and the game (in the vid) wasn't 20% finished. And yeah, Keith Johnson is coding it. But I'm sure you knew all that
Back on topic...
Aliens looks like a great game. Build it/ship it.
Sorry the theme is just BAD. You can throw all the other crap in to try to make it better but it wont ever fix the theme.
Quoted from TheLaw:
I'll give you the Taco Bell, the only good part of that shitfest. I guess the fact it's R rated was good at the time...they weren;t all scared of swearing back then.
Your cards look better than the game art...not that that's any consolation
You are fined two credits....
"Not bad for a human" Is going to get old real fast. Any other snipets planned for the end of ball sequence?
The "you're playing AS Ripley" angle is still pretty weak.
Imagine these pinball machines with the main character replaced by the player.
T2 WITHOUT Arnold.
Nightmare on Elm Street WITHOUT Freddy.
Apollo 13 WITHOUT Tom Hanks.
The Avengers WITHOUT Hulk.
Tron Legacy WITHOUT Flynn.
Demolition Man WITHOUT Stallone.
Star Wars WITHOUT Luke.
Addams Family WITHOUT Gomez.
The Shadow WITHOUT Alec.
Kiss WITHOUT Gene.
TBL WITHOUT The Dude.
Iron Man WITHOUT Stark.
Jurassic Park WITHOUT T-Rex.
Batman WITHOUT Batman.
That being said. The Game is still really amazing in spite of its main, beloved character being absent.
Ripleys not a main character?
I guess that's why she's the only one that's in all of the first 4 movies?
LE backglass still makes no sense. The art is covered by the monitor, or go with no monitor at all. Pretty lame.
Enough of the BS, shell games and shady business practices. I AM OUT!!
$1500 deposit refund request sent.
You'll get more BS and excuses. EVERYONE should pull out while they still can.
IF the so-called angel investors do pull this turd of a company out they can BUILD the games THEN sell the games.
Quoted from hank527:
in the next 24 hours we will know a lot more. I'm in on LE #2 and I'm waiting to see how it shakes out. Im thinking new owners will reach out and figure this out.
They have ZERO history or credibility as well. Hell, i could start a post that says i bought Highway Pinball too.
Wow, i didn't know David Thiel worked on arcade games too. I have a few of them in my collection (pictured) and the sound definitely kicks ass on all of them!
Since a significant draw for the LE was the fiber optic ramps, will there be any compensation for that feature being axed?
Will there be any additional or new art on the LE besides the back glass marquee?
Does the LE come with an LCD?
And when all is said and done do i need to contact Coin Taker to arrange final payment and shipping details?
We are coming to a decision as to what replacement customers will get as the fibre optic ramps have been removed. We will be contacting customers and also publishing on our social media the details of any decision. The art package on the LE is what has been shown, which is to say there is a unique back glass art work that will only be available as a part of the LE and the side panels which also differ from those on the standard edition of the game. The LE does not come with the LCD screen as standard and has to be added to the order as an additional part. You can pay the final payment to us directly as you have made the order through us. The shipping will be dealt with via CoinTaker but we will receive the payment from you and the details of the delivery then pass these along to CoinTaker.
I asked them that, they said NOPE! Would have to buy an SE at CURRENT pricing.
Quoted from hocuslocus:
I'd be down with that.
Quoted from jonesjb:
Agreed, I sincerely they don't hope to offset the lower agreed preorder price, by just not offering the the fiber optic and cabinet options. At a very minimum, they should extend the offer for pre-order customers to downgrade the LE to the standard at the price at the time.
Yeah, i did. I got sick of waiting and constantly nagging them so i just walked away from the whole thing. Since they still have my deposit i may stay in the game.
Quoted from MK6PIN:
Confused....aren't you the one that started the angry refund ex-customer thread and were out?...Maybe Im wrong...
Quoted from Nethawk86:
WEEELLLPPP!! count me in of those who've been scammed multiple times on this pin bandwagon. Cointaker and Heighway have both been very negligent and dishonest with me for the past several months and I am done biting my tongue. Paid initial $1000 deposit to hold a LE game from cointaker which took me weeks of emails to just give them money. Paid more down over months depending on what I've been hearing regarding the company. I stopped at about $3500 and waited a couple months during the proto games that snuck out incomplete. Finally told cointaker I'm out and want a refund. 3 weeks passed with no response again to my refund request. Then out of the clear blue sky, I got an email saying "what if I promised you your LE at your door within 30 days! Seriously we just got told they are shipping our pins now". I told them that sounds good and after again sending a couple emails with no response and excuse after excuse of why, I finally got them on the line again to vaguely answer some questions. I sent them the remaining due and was paid in full with the promise of my game arriving at my door end of July. July came and went, finally called cointaker and got immediate response. Was told they had an issue with the computers and they were delayed while they are upgraded. I was annoyed of course and made a stink about why I got scammed out of my refund by both parties and was then told by cointaker that they will call me back in an hour. I get the call and they Skyped with someone at heighway and made a deal where my LE was being sent in the batch of standards to cointaker as a 1 off as LEs weren't being made yet but they could get me my 1 due to the promise made. I was then told end of August my game will arrive at my door. I called cointaker around the 22nd of august to confirm and was told "yes, you're still on schedule". I heard the shipment arrived and standards were going out the door after they removed any fiber optic lights. But no LE. Well.....here we are.....6th of september......I called cointaker and asked the question. Was told for whatever reason they had issues blah blah blah and that they were shipping out computers and new playfields so that took up time and they couldn't get my LE out, BUT, my LE "SHOULD" be on the water now and that they will confirm with heighway to make sure and get back to me later last night. No response from cointaker. I get consistent no communication from cointaker and excuses after excuses of why no email responses, to dissapearing emails, to why I can't pickup the phone, to even "I totally forgot". As a customer I am annoyed and pissed at cointaker for handling me this way. Absolutley "0" updates unless I hound and pound them every way I can for something. I can forgive the dates a bit as that's beyond their control and is on heighway....but they have consistently left me in the dark and have made promises and lied countless times to me after speaking with heighway and them saying they've never told cointaker that and would never make that promise. I know everyone is at their wits end and at the end of their fuses with this....but boy.....I am just lit over this ordeal with this whole thing. I know very well that my game is not on the water, and won't be until "Maybe" October when they day they will start shipping LEs. This is my first new pin and I am not officially gunshy of ever doing this again. My whole body this whole time has been screaming to demand a refund and run far far away...and I did before I was ignored and then promised my item. I've never had this "amazing customer support" or got these phone updates that others have had the privilege of...even after paying in full. Sorry for the rant, was just soo damn pissed today after spending 4 hours of trying to call cointaker and getting the "call back in 15" atleast 6 times and then immediate voicemail after 1-2 rings 3 times all to hear......maybe on the water when it's supposed to be in my house.....
Quoted from MikeHogue:
I'm still waiting..... Going on four months of waiting.
Contacted Morgan again a couple of days ago. Still waiting.
I'll definitely post when / if I ever get my $1500 deposit back!
Quoted from Toads:
Well I just checked my original request and it's four months today that I have been waiting too.
Quoted from swenny:Yes, as follows:
30 days on all mechanical, electrical and structural parts.
1 year on the power supply board, I/O boards, motherboard, LCD screens and PCB boards if used in a home setting. If used for commercial purposes the warranty is for 6 months.
Warranty only applies to the original, registered purchaser.
Does not cover any labor or service calls.
I asked Melissa at CT the same question and she forwarded the warranty to me.
Nice! Those chrome legs gotta go though.
Quoted from delt31:
Hello beacons! Now we're talking. All credit goes to pinsider libtech who's awesome for showing me the way. Just waiting on one more part so I can connect them. They really complete the machine.
I'll add a couple more steps and tweaks to the how to that he added once they work to make a little easier to follow. Wanted them installed in factory but didn't happen so went this route. Very happy thus far.
AWESOME! Now super secretly slip in some Ripley callouts that can be switched on/off
Quoted from daudioguy:
Just so you know:
I finally received a production Alien pinball machine that I can use for development. I had a loaner for a few months from Tommy of Nitro in June, but I will keep this pin and move it down to my studio as soon as possible.
Currently, the only AV assets that are missing are for the final-final mode "All Out War". These are being worked on now.
Additionally the US team is working on refinements that can only be accomplished on a production machine. You just can't effectively tune choreography if you can't experience it.
Our goal is for an upgrade in mid December that will be 100% complete and polished.
Heh, basically the ONLY plus to having an LE on order.
Quoted from aeonblack:
I'm just thankful for all the SE guys doing all the trouble-shooting, problem-solving and beta-testing so that when my LE arrives I won't have any head scratching. Thanks guys!
I hope all you guys wanting refunds get them, and I hope that means those of us staying in get our machines sooner.
You must be a bachelor.
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:
Or you just pass on buying an adult themed pin based on a gory R-rated movie
I find this kind of "censorship code" ridiculous, and it's a waste of programmers time. Stick to family themed pins. Not all pins/movies/media/etc are made for everyone.
Well “if” the 45 LE shipment is true, how about you fully prepaid guys show up at CT with proof of payment and take a game from the premesis?
See, CT already promised the first LEs to these guys. So show up guys and take what’s yours.
The first LEs should go to pre-paid buyers. The new buyers should wait in line 2 years and get pissed off like the rest of us.
Got the same BS email. How many ugly green trim LEs did new, line-jumping buyers drop out of?
Quoted from Jarbyjibbo:
Day 1 (10/20/14) order direct through HP and this is the first good news I've directly received since the game was announced.
"I am contacting you today with potentially good news. We have had a customer drop out from the production schedule of the Alien Pinball LE. This means that we will be able to get a machine to you sooner rather than later. If you would like to take advantage of this situation that would be great as we can fulfil your order sooner rather than later.
If you could please contact me promptly if you would like to take advantage of this situation. The trim colour that we will be able to offer you is green as this is the colour that the machine has been produced in. We can certainly add your unique LE number to the machine. To fully take advantage of this opportunity we would require that the remaining balance be settled for the machine plus the shipping.
Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you promptly and your decision on this opportunity."
Finally some good news. Hope you actually get it, you've been super patient.
Quoted from Aurich:
Hey, an update to this. Just got off the phone with a customs broker about my game, so apparently it's incoming soonish? I don't know if it's part of big shipment or not though. If I hear anything else helpful I'll pass it along.
Showing your games arriving in Europe is rubbing salt in our wounds here in the US.
$1500 gone forever. Should have bought lottery tickets - better odds.
Think its time to drain this thread...
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