Damn, I want some pictures of both versions.
Do you pick your LE # like Jack does, or you get number they send?
I'm ordering one as soon as I see the complete LE package.
Anyone know when LE package will be shown, TPF maybe?
It's a shame I can't push a button and the playfield rotates end to end and there's two games in one.
California needs an Alien!
Will someone please bring this to PAGG or California Extreme in the coming months.
Who is everyone ordering from?
Just go to cointaker, or through Highway directly?
Ive looked at both website's now.
Is there pros and cons for using contaker?
Quoted from Astropin:
Slightly cheaper direct.
Slightly safer through Cointaker?
Exactly the conclusion I came to.
Is it wrong i want to flip and play this machine before buying it? Even thou im already wanting it bad, love the theme!
Played Full Throttle a bunch at last years PAGG. What a great game! Ever since, been following this every step.
Really want to see an Alien at this years Pin A Go Go! Month and a half away. Can we please get one there?? Youll just sell more!
These are being assembled in Wales, correct?
How close are they to south hampton port and c-container shipping?
I might be in london late August. Do i need to go fill a container and ship it home. Dont care about LE artwork and Fox anymore, who needs it, game looks complete to me.
Not worried about invisoglass, many are making it now.
Lets get that assembly line going boys, clock is ticking and mother is counting down!
Who can help me figure a way to get an Aliens to the Pin a go go PAGG show May 18,19??
Great show with lots of silicon valley customers if you catch my drift Andrew...
Looking forward to buying one.
But not until I play it first.
If there isnt one at PAGG or CAX, I probably wont get to play one till Expo in Oct, only show im flying to this year.
Andrew- Thanks for the update. I ship c-containers from time to time. From pick-up to delivery globally can take anywhere from 30-45 days to clear customs. Im sure the cointakers will be here soon.
You can throw it on a plane from 700-1000 extra, will still take a week to clear.
Biggest flaw or problem ive seen was selling the 3 machines out of TPF.
Those 3 should have gone on tour rather than get sold. This would have been really good advertising for the pin. Many shows on west coast next 3-4 months, and no Aliens will be present......well, there is a remake making these shows.
Almost feel like draining this thread.
Everyone relax...or start your own pin company and build them yourself. Well see how that goes.
How do we get one of these to Pin-A-Go-Go , Dixon Ca in 2 weeks.??
The same weekend the movie comes out!!
Now thats a no brainer!
1 am in Wales, and Andrew is up reading this thread and answering questions.
For the love of God people...let the man run a factory and build our machine's.
Not one person on pinside should complain till you do 120 hour work weeks, no sleep...just to build a vision...for all of us to enjoy.
Well, Jersey Jack, Gary Stern and and the Emery spooky team...there alloud to comment.
Quoted from ezeltmann:
Tell me what part of that excuses ignoring customer concerns for close to a month.
What could you possibly need..?
How can Andrew hold your hand today?
Even if paid in full....what do you need?
If its a refund , well you will get it.
If refund never comes in a couple months, then ok, complain about communication then.
But why would you want a refund?
Your game is being made!
Took 2 years and a boat load of parts and licensed partnerships...so you know how hard that is?
430 pm on a Thursday afternoon in Wales..
Andrew had morning coffee, were past High Tea, the day is coming to an end at factory.
Andrew, time to sit down at computer and answer some emails. Ship some Full Throttle parts to guys that really need them.
Or, higher someone to do these jobs!
Its time for the small guys to band together.
Highway, American Pinball, Jersey Jack, and dare i say Dutch pinball. Maybe even spooky.
They should get together and form super pin company!
Im wondering if Andrew is waiting for this thread to hit 15k before he comes back with an annoucement?
4pm Friday in Wales.
Do they work on the weekend at factory?
Have they done any work this week?
Is there anyone even at factory?
With all the requests for refunds, I count about 40 over the past month, how is he even able to meet payroll?
Quoted from Aurich:
I asked on behalf of the investors, at their request. Obviously the Pinside staff gets the final say. I probably should have made that more clear.
The other thread is going to be about the exact same things as this thread, and trying to track two, when one is nearly 300 pages long and full of things that are no longer relevant to the current situation just complicates things. All the questions and answers in one place seem reasonable to me.
I think everyone can agree that the last thing this project needs is more confusion than necessary. Does it matter? Nothing here is being erased.
Did you ever get a machine?
Quoted from Tsskinne:
Yep it's mine and it should be Indiana not Tennessee.
Open to trade for Ruby Red WoZ with 2.0 boards price is just pinside suggestion. Open to offers.
That's a fair trade.
To bad....i understand, cant blame you.
How long is the license agreement good for?
Can they even get that many ...1200 made before it expires? My guess is 300 games by christmas if there lucky.
Im sure damn rooting for them.
Quoted from DCFAN:
So, the standard Alien went up in price $1500 to around the Stern LE and DI Standard pricing range?
And they want to sell more machines...?
Price bump sucks...this is another nail in the coffin for Highway..
Time to start the...Remember when we almost had Aliens thread...
Quoted from DCFAN:
This huge price increase is not just a nail in the coffin of Alien pinball, but to Heighway pinball and their modular system. The modular units are only attractive if they are at least $1000 less than Stern Pros and it does not appear that price target is going to be feasible.
The modulare swappable playfield never interested me. I wouldnt want to store a populated playfield, it doesnt make sense.
I see it for guys with small footprint basements in europe, but thats it.
Also, theres only one other table available.
Im also not seeing company make it to 3rd table. Look how hard its been for these two.
Does this mean, "The investor's " will get this ball rolling and make weekly updates finally?
Quoted from greatwichjohn:
Seems real quiet from the investors. You would think they would have update on the factory & employee's. Anything going down the line, or still in limbo land until the Fall.
There probably regretting there invest day after
day. I dont mean to be a debbie downer, i really want this to succeed for all involved.
Just a guess here...
Oct, big reveal expo, much excitement.
More orders placed and promises of games by first quarter 17.
Money on these new purchases used to pay for back order parts and xeno head.
Texas show, more excitment, machine getting close, more delays and promises.
More orders placed, money used to pay for back orders of parts and xeno head fix and development.
Can anyone say ponzi scheme? Pyramid scam?
Andrew was way over his head and screwed thia up big time.
New investors.....they just want there money back. License expiring end of year with option to extend a year. But, with no money this will expire Dec 31.
My prediction...a few games will get made but this company is done in 6 mo.
GET OUT NOW, REFUND QUICKLY IF YOU CAN.
This huge price increase is going to kill sales.
This game should have never been built in England.
Quoted from Pinballs:
I agree about the price.
BTW the game is not being built in England
Fine, Wales, sorry I was in general country not specific territory. Its still British pound, Wales does not have its own currency yet.
Pricing could kill this, when a product hasnt meet timilines and goals. Changes management, struggles to produce. Ups the cost 25%, your going to lose customers and sales. Pricing could be final nail in coffin for company.
Get your game quick, or you wont get one.
Any more broken glass show up in USA yet?
How did that last month of production go?
Looking at Sept next week, how is that promise of 50 games coming?
A 45' foot C-container takes 3 weeks to arrive from Southhampton England. Another 5-7 days customs approval.
A 45' can hold 45 full size pins on pallets. A 20' can hold 21, 3 rows of 7. It does depend on size of pallet.
Not sure how they would get 50 in one container.
Real question is, has a container left, and when?
Andrew said a lot of things....
Pretty sure, facebook, 30 days ago management mentioned c containers by boat.
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:That's assuming they are shipped by sea. Andrew maintained he had an inexpensive air/truck delivery to US that was the same price as ship/truck. If new owners have something similar, shipping 50 games to one location should be a piece of cake.
If cointaker is getting a C-container...rummered to be 40 plus machines.
1- if i was Highway id be pretty proud of this and show some pictures.
2- Highway would make this a sales pitch and show some pictures, proof of this.
3- Show a picture of assembly line, been awhile.
If im a betting man, and i am, there is nothing in a container yet, or left for states.
For those that dont know. Awful lot of paperwork with a container, yes..ive done a few. You can even track the ship as it moves on high seas.
Pics or it hasn't happened!
Not that hard to issue a refund.
Not that hard to make a decision on fiber EL ramp lighting.
Something still not right in Denmark, i mean Wales.
Hurricanes not affecting shipping lanes. Just checked. South Hampton to usa pretty clear. The boats go around such events.
Didn't see any pics of machines leaving factory.
We have at least a month before Cointaker see's these 13-25 pins. So at least 3 more pages of dribble before unboxings.
Looks like pins left UK factory 10 days ago. Dont know when boat left. So, my guess, there will not be new Aliens at expo.
Quoted from cosmokramer:
This guy is gonna have a panic attack when he sees his box...
Im sure the game is fine, but someones gonna sweat it when they see it...
Thats a ratchet strap in truck to cointaker. Those us shippers have no clue on doing straps. Lets hope theres no damage.
This picture is 4 years in the making. Glad it's finally here, at least, round one.
Congrats to those in first batch.
Fingers crossed guys.
70 containers lost at sea off coast of North Carolina in high seas storm.
That would be a nightmare.
Time to storm the factory in wales guys.
In 2007 i had a very diffulcult fragile purchase from an auction house in London. After a month of phone calls and emails i said F-it. Got on a plane and picked it up in person. Saved 2300 vat, which paid for trip.
Going to break pinside rule #1, Be Nice!.
Andrew Highway is a Dick!
Highway his real last name, seems like even his last name is a scam?
Quoted from Mr68:
Reliable IMO but secondhand information, I'm told he still monitors this thread even recently. And his Pinside account appears to be active.
Last seen Dec 17th. So he hasnt logged in since then.
Kudos to CoinTaker and Melissa for saving the headache for many. Glad a little bird called her, (assuming, but huge coincidence). IMO
Despite this news the past week. Im still seeing some denial. Theres no more Aliens guys, its dead. HW 2.0, doughtful. Container of pins, doughtful.
Creditors and money owed, insolvency, Yes.
Many bills to be paid. If there is any machines, parts, assembly line equipment....auction to pay depts.
British law would charge new company if it can be proven assets were removed under questable means. They dont mess around with this lightly over there.
We study the past to understand the present, and prepare for the future.
- Lincoln, T Roosevelt, Carl Sagan
Never prepay for a machine that isnt in a box.
Well said Art.
Quoted from jonesjb:
What are The Pinball Brothers planning. Will they close shop completely? Or reshow their face and pull some maneuver despite letting down the community.
I dont think its wise to give any pinball company money that isnt on US soil. Dream theme's included. Just dont. Your better off betting 10k in vegas on long weekend. Sadly, better odds in vegas than getting a preorder pinball overseas.
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