Has Heighway said if they are showing anything at Expo? Is Aurich coming to Expo? (Your stalker wants to know. Muwahahahaha. )

Whoa. It looks like you're venting about a unrelated situation, which is alright, but take it easy. I fully expect they'll have something to show at expo and if not, I'll at least get to see Full Throttle. They are too many games out there to be worried about a new one coming. I'll let Heighway do the worrying about getting the game out and I'll just revel in the games that are out today.

I didn't mean to stir the pot with such a simple question.

Yeah it's understandable that a little pre-release hype was needed. I hope that Heighway can get to the point to where Stern is at where they can announce the game and a couple months later release it. I like that feeling. I think releasing Full Throttle and seeing pics of the games in homes has built more hype honestly.

That sounds like a great idea to be able to beat one movie and head into the next one.

Talking about the movies, I saw the first one as a little boy of about 9 or 10. I checked it out of the library (remember doing that?) and really enjoyed the thrill ride. I didn't watch the second till many years later when I bought the Alien Anthology on DVD.

It would be a great surprise if they the game at expo. I'm really getting pumped up.

This has probably been stated before but LE art package also has different art on the playfield as well, right?

Great playfield swapping video. I love the guy just standing in the background holding the phone out, lol. When I saw that crate I thought, Alien playfield reveal!

I am seriously thinking of buying Full Throttle now. I was thinking the playfield on the Alien LE was something specific to the LE.

I noticed that playfield banging onto the cabinet as well. Take it a little easy there, Private Pyle.

lololol...So great. So great.

I can imagine hooks on the wall to hang the beautiful playfields.

WWHHHAAAA?! There are other fans of this besides me?!

So true.

There was already a South Park, why would someone make another one? I'm not against it but it seems there are so many other themes that don't have a pinball machine.

I've never played a Sega South Park but it seems to be popular machine. I didn't think I heard many negatives about it. Like I said, there are so many other themes, even animated ones. Futurama, Rick and Morty, Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill, Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

The third film isn't very good but I didn't see the movie for many years later and I still knew that scene. I want to say it is an iconic scene in a forgettable movie.

I like Fincher a lot and can definitely see his style in the movie. When put up next to 4, yeah, it's better but when put up against the first two it falls a little short. I never watched the AvP movies though so don't really have much of an opinion on those. Prometheus was interesting and I liked the detail but if you hoping to see Aliens running around most people were disappointed.

I didn't know that about BSD. That's really interesting. Sometimes I wish there was a wikipedia like site for pinball machine history. There are times after playing a machine I would like to know how they came up with an idea and there's just no info.

I'm perfectly fine with waiting to see anything till Expo, if you wanted to know. Less than two weeks left till then.

KANEDA!! Sorry just watched Akira again.

So same chance of seeing Rob Zombie.

I could see a lot of people waiting for Alien and then buying Full Throttle as a kit.

You mean no Tom Skerritt or Harry Dean Stanton. Mega Fail.

The art is just what I expected which isn't a bad thing. The egg image looks like the standard VHS box art from long ago. The border, though, has some nice detail. Overall very nice and right for the standard edition.
One thing I did notice was with the emphasis on the cabinet being interchangeability, it doesnt have full art on the sides of the cabinet. It loses a little wow because of that and I wonder if future LEs would have that option.

I'm hoping this is how the big LCD is implemented. Use the smaller screen and the one in the playfield for gameplay info and use the big screen for film clips and awesome attract modes. That way if someone doesn't buy the big screen and opts for the translight, they aren't missing anything important but definitely something that adds to the attractiveness. If the big screen just mirrors the other two LCDs, I think I will opt out.

That's why I'm waiting. No need to preorder

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Could the dot above the translight be a camera? I thought there was talk of online connectivity and maybe the camera could be for streaming purposes. One of these days someone is going to make a machine that can connect via Wi-Fi where high scores and gameplay can be directly uploaded. I see it coming.

I would agree with this. Just look at Stern and how they use ripped video instead of actual dedicated animation. The art of the DMD is sadly already dead but their were some good years.

Aurich had suggested earlier a Sci-Fi motorcycle them for FullT and I would be so into that. Just a wacky combination of themes with some neat art would make that game so much more appealing. Zombie Racing or Underwater motorcycles.

That's a good question. It wouldn't bother me if there were no pinball related call outs. I like it if they use existing sound clips creatively in a game.

Well the tone between the first and second movies is pretty different, which makes the idea of making the two movies seperate in the game genius. That way both types of people can be satisfied since the first movie is more a quiet, menacing tone and the second is more 80s action full of one-liners.

I can't understand the announcer but I imagine that was what he said.

I'm sure the umpire said, "ummm...ball?"

I played the big screen at Expo. But if I get a Heighway pin it will be with the small backbox screen. If the big screen did something different than the playfield screen, it would be a must have. I especially liked the idea of an attract mode with the translight art but with subtle animations like mist moving or the egg pulsing.

Link?

It's nice to see others have the same opinion as me on the big screen. If (When?) I buy this, I'll probably opt for the small screen. There's nothing stopping me from upgrading later if Heighway gives me a good reason.

This makes sense. When they switched from score reels, they still made games with them to get rid of the stock they had.

Just added Full Throttle to my wish list. Hope that makes you happy.

I think most people just don't bother with wishlists. Sorry to break the bad news to ya.

I am always amazed at how small the pinball community is, so I could see motorcycle racing being bigger than pinball. Now motorcycle racing enthuasists that care about pinball, that is an even smaller subset. But I don't have to like motorcycle racing to love Full Throttle. Done.

Has the question been asked about the music? Will it be the OST or mixed with some rocking music?

With regards to theme desirability, Stern has 8 themes they are making at this moment. GOT, Kiss, WNBJM, WWE, TWD, Mustang, Star Trek, and Metallica. I am currently only interested in one theme (GOT), maybe two (WWE), if we are looking solely at theme. But I have no desire to own either one of the games when looking at the whole package. Heighway has two themes with FTH and Alien and it's true that on the surface Alien is the only theme I would be interested in but after playing Full Throttle, I'm seriously considering trying to make that my first NIB.

I like the idea of the Ghostbusters but this modular system where I could buy Full Throttle and then buy Alien at a reduced price is really intriguing to me. So looking at a theme to gauge whether interest will be there is a falsehood. A good pinball machine is the sum of the parts.

A couple of new faces are showing up. Did Heighway have another party where they showed off Alien?

Your consolation prize is the lesson you've learned on preordering. Knowledge! It's better than materialistic things.

I believe some people have seen the toys and playfield at the open house and off Andrew's phone. That's what I meant by another party.

I don't mind the waiting. It gives me time to save up money and I may place an order for Full Throttle before Alien anyway.

I do agree the website isn't the best. If they had the answers to basic questions, it would be helpful to people who just learned of the game and are curious. The faults of the website are probably the product of a new company trying to allocate funds and time in the right direction. I'm sure they'll get it fixed soon.

I didn't hear the initial announcement but all sorts of media set a tentative date and then move it because of delays. Video Games, movies, and even pinball aren't immune to it. Stern, the biggest manufacturer, is having supply issues from what I hear and GOTs aren't coming out as fast as people would like. If you wanted to pay for a game and take it home same day, maybe you should have waited for the dealer to have some in stock. Otherwise the definition of preordering is paying for a game before it's ready and waiting. I don't mean to sound harsh but it's the truth.

LOL I didn't say what you quoted me for. That was tacshose.

I think I'm gonna like this ignored user comment stuff.

I know this has been mentioned previously but I'm also hoping for a chrome glass frame and chrome flipper button protectors and start button protectors (I'm not sure what the proper name for these are). I'm a little reluctant to order a Full Throttle till something is set in stone for that. The grey just looks a little cheap and I'm not a fan of green. Chrome would be a nice universal look for the standard.

That would be fine too. I just want some shiny metal. lol

After watching Aurich's 5 by 5 quote, I started watching this Aliens behind the scenes. It's funny seeing some of these actors like the one that played Rodriguez that are completely different from the character they played and then there's Apone who was a real Green Beret and sounds just as hilarious and over the top as his character.

Someone please explain the "Fly the Friendly Skies" graffiti.

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So far I'm liking it. It was not what I was expecting but it's dark and the elements blend well together.

I hope the screen ends up mixing well with playfield, similar to Captain Nemo's screen. I realize the image they chose could change but the green of the screen on the flyer looks a little out of place with the purple and red of the playfield. That's just a small suggestion. Looks like it has a ton of modes. I wonder if the range finder graphic will play into one of the modes.

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What was behind the decision of the scanlines on the purple mist of the planet? I notice they are at the bottom of the playfield too but I figured that's maybe because we're supposed to be looking through the range finder or something.

Is the red area a reference to something? Reminds me of Ghostbusters 2's river of slime.

Are the grid lines a reference to something in the movies? I didn't notice them when I first looked at the picture.

I still don't know what the red puddle is but if it's gonna be mostly covered, oh well.

I hope there is a motion tracker mode. Maybe make certain shots that are lit.

It would be neat to hear those sounds when you first turned on the game or when you press start, though if it happens too often some people may find it irritating.

I listened to the C2C podcast last night. Thanks Aurich for voicing your opinions on the Spider-Man VE. I agreed with most everything you said. It was also great hearing your reasoning behind the Alien playfield. I think in my mind I had it pictured more terrestrial or industrial but you're take is very interesting and hasn't swayed my interest away from this machine.

Sure, this could work but you don't want to base an original story on the movies. Call it something else like Alien: Colonial Marine or something to differentiate it from the movies.

Many people have been waiting for the movies themselves to be represented as a pinball machine and if you waste the movie license on an original story, it might create an animosity from the customers kind of what TWD did.

My opinion is if you can't get access to all of the necessary assets of a license then don't do it. There are so many other licenses to choose from that surely one would give you the assets you desire. If they don't, do an original theme. Pay the money you would use on a license on a great artist instead.

I don't need the cast represented on the playfield but clips and callouts from the movie need to be used. Please make it so.

I was checking out Dan Mumford's site. It may be too late but maybe you could have him draw something for the LE.

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I figured. I just thought I'd share an awesome artist.

He does live in the UK so maybe Andrew would keep him in mind for something in the future.

Yeah I don't know if he'd be interested either but it's always good to be aware of artists that are close and interested in the same subjects. Mumford seems to be a fan of movies and games so it wouldn't be a stretch to see him do a pinball.

You also have to work on it all hours of the day or you're just treating it like a day job which is a negative. lol

I'm curious. When a guy does art prints of a licensed property, surely he has to have permission and approval as well, right? I just wonder what the difference is between art print and pinball playfield in the eyes of a licensor.

Do you think if you pushed harder and had more time for back and forth or paid more for the license, they would grant the ability to do hand drawn art for a movie license? I'm just trying to get a sense of how this licensing business works. I'm sure money talks in most cases.

I kinda want the Punisher figure...

Thanks!

I don't get the hate for it myself. Is it because it didn't live up to the hype? It couldn't have been worse than the last few Alien movies (AvP 1 and 2, Alien 4).

"Because he dared to dream, and never stopped believing."

So inspirational.

I love these guys.

That would be neat. Maybe they should add a camera hookup for the big screen for use in tournaments.

Wow he's got some free time today.

You should get that checked out.

Any reason?

Is she taking part in filming the next one?

I might have to go to Expo if they can get a game there.

Those pop bumper caps look great.

I also like that big screen surround.

Are you worried about parts supplies? Vid has stated that trying to get parts for Sterns is terribly hard. So even a company that's been around long term doesn't keep a good supply of parts.

Exactly. If you're afraid for the longevity of the company then wait and don't buy right now.

Did Peru celebrate Dinky's Fall Carriage and Antique Auction in Daviess County, IN as a holiday like we did this week?

7 thous....

I better just quit right there.

I'm excited to see everyone at Expo.

He was blocked before I downvoted. Obviously someone who shouldn't be on here.

Was there a choice between which movies you can play? I noticed Bishop in the game over screen.

Is that kit a little high priced? Almost as much as a Pro costs.

Could be differences in contracts signed at the time of the film? Likeness rights were changing back then. It might be she signed them away for Ghostbusters back then but not for Alien.

I was reading an article about the legal rights troubles for Batman 66. It took some devoted people to get those rights untangled just to release the DVDs and eventually merch like the pin.

https://www.wired.com/2014/11/batman-home-video-finally/

I'm sure the modders can help make your legs look like dicks.

Did they ever bring Aliens to Earth? I don't recall that they did which is kind of odd. It seemed like the popular thing to do with sequels was bring the monster to a populated city. Gremlins, Predator, and Jurassic Park come to mind.

If you want to pitch a better Alien movie, I'd suggest keeping JJ away from it.

I know the LE will still come with the translight and I think it fits in front of the large LCD. I don't remember if the standard comes with a translight.

The large LCD was an addition during the development of this game but I'm hoping in future titles they won't be mirrored. Hopefully the big LCD will show the animations and some info while the playfield LCD will show just info for the player.

When they initially announced the 27" screen, there was some discussion of putting the translite in front of the screen for the purposes of hiding the screen when the game's off.

I've played Full Throttle at Expo without any special glass and had no problem with reflections from the screen. This was in a well lit room though. It might be different in a dark room.

Wouldn't conversion games have served a similar purpose and so be considered as the same thing? They were more successful in the video game market than pinball but conversion games have always been a viable option for operators. Pinball just never had a conversion game that was a best seller and top earner.

It's kind of funny people want a family mode for this pin to reduce gore with so many other arcade vids/pins include blood. Oh well. It's nice Heighway's team can do that for them.

I imagine all deadlines are tentative. You never know when something might happen.

You either get regular updates and communication with dates subject to change or you get Stern's way of doing things which is ship some games really quick and others 7 months later without any communication or updates.

I prefer constant communication with occasional deadlines missed.

Maybe but it would be hard to find a person without any form of media that doesn't refer to blood, violence, or gore in their home. Most Alien fans (and non-fans) know what they're getting when they buy something associated with the franchise.

I didn't say there was a downside. In my original post...

Time spent putting the option in versus boost in sales because of the option is probably negligible. No downside. No upside. No problems from me.

I mean I'm on the border of being a millennial and I was one of the guys discussing family mode. And I thought it was a little side discussion not an argument. Why do you have to be so mean Dee-Bow?

It's probably a fashion statement.

I think a good mod may be to take out the third LCD and send that video signal to the playfield screen. Then find some cool toy to put in the third screen's place.

It sounds like the third screen is doing exactly what I want out of the playfield screen. Instructions towards the player relevant to the active modes while the big screen would show the video clips and game scores.

I'm still unsure about Stern's LCD. It's a little weird looking but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

The big screen looks natural and is a wow factor to new players.

That's pretty cool. Maybe have it open it's mouth or something when the ball hits a switch that's close to the head.

Too bad Xenos don't have eyes to track the ball like Rudy.

I didn't realize there was a Kirk post on Alien either. Not a big deal though as it can be removed like on so many other games. Too bad you can't do a drop pass like on Stars.

I understand you're apprehension about it though. Just imagine the designer is a Steve Kirk fan. Who was the designer anyway? Last I heard that wasn't revealed.

I have a fake FB account but I still say screw FB. I'm a young guy too.

FB just makes it so hard to use. Video buffering on YT is much better than FB.

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