At Oneangrymo:

Remove the gear, drill a 3mm threat and use another neodym magnet... leave the screw a bit longer to be able to adjust the distance to the playfield magnet.

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For sure... I'll keep my HW! Thanks for your comments about my IJ

I don't own either versions and know many have contributed to the OG Alien success, but Averell is a true resource to you guys and gals. JS.

You are probably a master of trolls… definitely a master of alien .

Yep, Averell is a true asset to this title and our pinball community. We salute you!

We are all happy that you did a update on Alien in the past and looking forward for other code.
From the past we know that PB has no problem with new code and now have their logo on the machines
If it is a matter of money, we also offered you a "fee" in the past for all your work. So if the PB agree that you work on the code but will not pay (due its not "their" machine) I am sure the community will donate your work.
For me (normal player) there is nothing wrong with the actual code butthe hardcore owners should have some more small issues.

Thanks for all your work !
Alien is a very special machine !! I have some other pinballs but Alien .....

Same thing for me

How is it with spare parts on this pin, can i get part if they break or im i screwed ?

I personally never had an issue finding a part. My machine fell over completely hard on its side. Only thing that broke was the siren, easily found a replacement. and one of the LEDs went out, also found replacement. No board issues here. I wouldnt worry, someone here would help if anything went wrong.

I think you forgot to mention your leg ( a true trooper!!)....

I was gonna say that but deleted it!
(Glad he's ok now tho!)

Thought you already bought a PB ?

To those who played both.. how similar do they feel? Would a casual player really notice the feel & flo & game play.. instead of comparing and bashing, I'm just wondering how close they are with all the differences like extra magnet ..the missing pf monitor.. are the flippers way different? Gotta get one someday.
Definitely my grail! *i got this tattoo in 2001 - one sitting, 4 x 3 hour sessions over 14 hours. Goood times.

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Not much to bash either way but having had both I see pros and cons to both. The only noticable thing to me on the PB remake are the flippers. They are ok but I did find the HY version a bit better. Otherwise its a Great title and a worthy buy no matter which you choose.

I'm with you guys, my LE is becoming a permanent part of my collection next to my TZ, just an incredible game unlike anything else I've ever owned.

I have a PRE séries alien standard édition but with full loaded options(playfield number 0006)... But now all the HW are TRUE LE's !

( I Heard that on final more LE's than SE's have been produced... Dont know if its true...)
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Nobody exactly knows how much HW ALIEN have been produced at all.
Dave Sanders said they made approx. 200 Units and it's unclear how many of these have been Limited Editions.

One clue thought, in the pinball market, even on Pinside, there was more SE.

I didnt remember where i read that there was more LE... About 120 for 80 SE... Somewhere...

You would have to quantify how many " Heighway built " LE's vs SE's to start.

In this case, definitely more SE's, as LE's came at the end, without an actual shipment ever hitting the US.

There was a container and change of SE's that made it here in various stages of early builds..all w problems. These were ( are) the hybrids that became whatever the person wanted them to be.

After the ship sank, many parts started moving, and " LE's" started popping up like magic (hmm). HW was never like Stern....try replicating one of their LE plaques and see what happens.

Vast majority of the parts were LE, as Andrew abandoned the SE's in hopes of bringing in more cash ( sound familiar?).

Ancient news now, but the ones that survived in whatever state will definitely be a part of the Pinball story....just grateful that HW actually built Alien, period.

A genuine original can be identified by the nameplate.
And there have to be LE backglass, LE sidepanels, rotating beacons and a shaker.
Any other combination is not correct.

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Should we start a registry of serial # from owners on here and start recording how many units (SE and LE) were produced? I know it will never be complete but it’s a start and gauge how many SE vs LE on pinside

I opened it.... No résults...

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/2020-ne-inventory-of-pinball-alien-heighway-pinball-products-se-and-le

I'll add mine tomorrow w pics...LE139 here.

I do recall they used #'s that weren't spoken for by pre-order people...hope to the end I suppose...

I’ll add pics as well later, thanks for setting this up!

Will add as well, LE001, late build that was supposed to be Heighway's game but built for Roger at PB. I just texted Kenneth royneblom and he is going to check the SE/LE numbers from his data.

Just want to chime in here that there were many LE's built from the factory that did not have any decals like those mentioned. My SE had them, but the very last LE's that left the factory that I got did not have any. So all that signify s mine being LE's are the plaques. I asked on here last year about making these decals and such but got no response.

Ever have any pinball parties!! I've yet to even see an alien!

I'm wondering if anybody knows where i Can find LE side panels and backglass or an high quality scan of them... Love to have them to Switch between my standard and LE as i want...

I didnt realize the new alien feeds the ball to the right ramp?
Is this custom or is that intended?

Nevermind didnt look at it right.

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Not certain it would be of benefit. What serial # would you put on it? I didn't dig alot, but could figure out the rhyme or reason to the sequence.

I lost my pre-order $$$ like everyone, but good fortune landed me a connection to the last batch of HW factory built units ( all LE's) w #'s matching the machine and shipping box.

Doubt it matters a whole lot...just sort of interesting..

Good to see some original owners still kickin'
After all that sweat and blood on the remake, they still make a POS apron.
They sure are going to keep Felix busy!
Mark, get any requests yet for your apron redo like the WOZ monkey add-on got?
I wouldn't trade mine for that ball lock mechanism!

Lol...those that really remember know what Felix's efforts will ( or will not) produce. Strong, strong kool-aid over there. Sort of funny listening to all of it.

Several standing requests in my inbox....steering way away from that noise though...grateful I could share what I wanted on mine w a few.

No worries though...some serious Xeno activities behind the scenes for HW machines only on my end... ...Focusing on the positive, and galvanized by the true pioneers of the game....quite enjoyable....

Yeah, I was told the same, that we got the last 2 from the HW factory from Sweden. Even so much as they were shipped in wooden crates over the boxes as we were told is why they were the last to leave as they didn't have any more boxes in the end for these 2. Doubt any of us got the last ones after hearing this now from 3 different people that they were told the same. Either way, these did not have the 2 Heighway or PB decals on them.

Wooden crates...kinda cool...think it would be hard to ID the last "one" or 2 that HW built, as vultures were everywhere trying to recoup lost funds, and parts were definitely available.

I've heard crazy stories over the years about the end of HW and lineage of their particular game.

Generally the answer is " go to the source"..we all know can't happen.

Having the game is the important part now....the one I have was easy to trace to the final shipment which never left the HW factory, but that's about it .

I "couldn't " make sense of the serial #'s ....that info has to live somewhere ( think we all know where)...doubtful it will ever surface. Not like we were going to get warranty or any factory support, lol.

Mine came in a wooden crate from Norway, but it was with 120 plays as I recall.

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Yup, we all bought from royneblom who gave us apparently the same story about our pins. Ours had no plays on them but were shipped in that same crate.

Hmm.. ……mine definitely was in a Heighway box….cardboard, like a regular NIB would look…strapped on a pallet and wrapped….had HW logo “ALIEN LE” and game# on the box…I’ll dig for the photos….think I saved (cutout) the part of the box that had the markings….Kenneth is a good guy, and always kept his word. He did have access to many, many parts back then and was owed quite a bit.…..I’ll check the date it shipped too….to think the factory shut “ clean” would be foolish. Can imagine there were several, partially completed games that got extracted as well, with parts needed to complete and sell.

Who knows what the hell went down….suspect many weren’t paid, so a bit of a free for all when the final wheel fell off. If more than $1500.00 in the game, I would have crossed the pond. Aware of some who did..

How many games did you get (sounds like a group buy)? We’re they all lacking tags?

My guess is that the last LEs were built and then crated by Roger himself, as I know he built the crate for my game from his personal collection. Perhaps they had enough parts to make a few at the very end.

He wasn’t the only one that got the completed or mostly completed games from the HW factory, and 100% that several LE’s were completed from parts after the fact. Dicey back then, semantics at this point is my best guess.

Yes, the LE's shipped to us had many pictures provided from Royneblum that confirmed they were completed LE's and fully functional with a LE number tag secured on the backbox. He was great and honest. Mine is #417 and only had 3 plays on it with all the last improvements done with metal gearing in the head and cliffy on the Airlock scoop.
No dimples or scratches on the playfield so I was a "very happy" camper and continue to be one.

I'm not concerned about the missing tags as you note, it was all a cluster f*** at the factory anyway, and I'm sure the last employee holdouts were very concerned about quality!
SE's, LE's, they're all a Limited Edition anyway. Many bought and installed the upgrades and some made "Phony" number tags to make it look like a LE. Mine has a completion date sticker on the underside of the playfield of 4/18 and a playfield sticker to boot, but NO silver registation tags on the machine.

Doesn't matter, Mine was not bought for an investment but a Grail pin. With Mark's apron and many other additions it is "personalized" and I will lose all my teeth before it gets sold. I'm just happy others are getting them now as it will always be a losing c**k comparison for them.

THIS is truth, and worth the years of nonsense for me. Thanks for the apron props...labor of love, shared w a few. They'll be no more ( like our games), but I'm tinkering again. Think you'll like it..

I love my Alien but i will love to find a solution for the playfield. I know it exist a cliffy for the alien magnet but... How to remove mylar !! Varnish will Comes with...
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As well,i have an early built, i have Seen that the ramp Flap us shorten on yours and dont hide a part of the arrow... Where i Can find a New Flap?

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This is a old restorers trick...............it works, I've done it with perfect results removing old Mylar on a IJ playfield I restored.

To remove the mylar without taking the playfield art with it...
1. Get a can of Aerosol computer keyboard cleaner air spray.
2. Turn it upside down and spray it on the mylar. it should "freeze" and blow the mylar off by itself, but it will cause a white frost to form at the spray site.
The mylar and adhesive will harden and can be lifted off. Keep spraying the aerosol at the base of the mylar while you lift it.
*IMPORTANT...Remember to turn the can upside down when you spray! You will feel the can get very cold holding it.

I don't know if there are any video's on YouTube, you might check. I suggest you try practicing first with a piece of applied mylar on something. If you don't feel comfortable DON'T DO IT, that is a work of art your fooling with.

Here is a search result on YouTube.................

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=removing+playfield+mylar

The standard machine I have resurrected had the same issues.
I use a playfield protector, new ramp flaps, Cliffys and a bigger carbon fibre ring at the magnet.

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Where did you find your New shorter ramp flap for the alien ?

This is how mine arrived april 13 2018.

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