Trying to get some actual info and updates here from Heighway.

Would be nice to know what is going on, a real status report for those that couldn't be there.

I'd like to send in my production deposit but I need more details and timeframe and some actual video of somebody playing this pin.

Are the facehuggers made out of a solid resin type plastic or more of a rubbery silicon that jiggles?

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Thanks!

Looks like one of each: a standard and an LE. The standard comes with the LCD in the backbox as well it looks like....o_o...?

Anyone have a link to the FAQ on Heighway's page? It is really hidden....

Could be differences in contracts signed at the time of the film? Likeness rights were changing back then. It might be she signed them away for Ghostbusters back then but not for Alien.

I was reading an article about the legal rights troubles for Batman 66. It took some devoted people to get those rights untangled just to release the DVDs and eventually merch like the pin.

https://www.wired.com/2014/11/batman-home-video-finally/

Why would you send more money to Andrew Heighway at this point? Let's look at the facts.

1. Andrew hasn't fulfilled his full throttle orders. Ask him. Coin Taker hasn't even gotten their orders filled. Ask them.
2. The US Heighway team has NEVER seen a physical game yet. The first they saw it was at Expo. They've been designing the game virtually.
3. Denis Nordman said at Expo he was never paid.
4. Andrew has ex employees suing him for unpaid wages
5. His game is based on Ripley yet S.Weaver denied them permission....seriously...Zen Pinball got permission.

All you have to do is ask Andrew himself if he's shipped more than 100 Full Throttles and that's all you need to know. 4.5 years...4 factories. Countless employees. Does that sound like a man who has money to build you Alien pin. You're all fools and it's gonna be hysterical when you fail to see the truth.

Fuck man I miss Kenada

Do you have the balls to ask Andrew how many Full Throttles he's sipped in 4.5 years? Or are you gonna just hand him more money for Alien to finish his Full Throttle orders.

God I would never give them monies....but that doesn't make it a bad game

Do you have the balls to tell us who you are?

Not saying it's a bad game. Just saying it's not happening anytime soon. He promised it this November. He's sending out an email saying money is due now because production is starting. That's a crock of shit.

Look, Andrew chimes in to every thread where he is questioned. Andrew, in 4.5 years, have you shipped more than 100 Full Throttles? I'm not asking for totals. I'm not asking for dollar amounts. Just in 4.5 year have you shipped 100 or more Full Throttles? Do the math people. Investing in this now is like giving money to Zidware.

guys guys guys....

I used to work with Andy. That's all I'll say.

Well I.......I cannot argue that.

Who the f**k are you, and your post has some blatant bullshit in it.....

Biggest thing to know...he's not directly asking for more money right now.....just email sent "to prepare for payment as production is close" I'm not sending more money yet, nor am I remotely backing out.

There are still things to sort ( LE artwork, armor, PDI ( or like) glass, etc.

These were proto machines...the US team JUST got to get their hands on them earlier in the week. Things will progress at a much quicker pace now.

I believe he is ( reasonably) staged, and will be able to bang these out once the US team can put the package together, tweak, etc.

He wanted to have something people could put their hands on and play ( to a degree) at expo. He did that. Overwhelming opinion that it was the coolest reveal at the show.

In my house by Christmas? Judging by the Protos, not likely but possible. 1st quarter 17?...much more likely. But I see zero reason to panick ( quite the opposite), nor a need to send more cash....they're not in production yet.

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I guess it's plugged in now. Looks great.

And that, from a manufacturer standpoint, proves to be a liability to virtually EVERY one of them when they venture on here.

Just because of shit like this. The attempt at buzzkill after the showing was viewed by many ( including me) as a MAJOR hit is just wrong.

How many manufacturers state the actual # of games sold? Better yet, how many have been sold to end users/ operators.

Answer----0. Now go away

Yeah, I gotta admit, I was excited to buy Alien thinking release was soon, but the fact they brought prototype games to Expo, that didn't work correctly, I think they have a long way to go and I'm not into financing unless they wanna pay me interest on my money or a GUARENTEED delivery date.

Truth there....

Got about five games on it this evening. these are prototypes but look close to me. They look AMAZING in person! THey play very good, esp for being prototype/pre-production/whatever you want to call them.

The audio is phemonenal and will likely get way better. LOTS of shoots any they feel good. I played a few games w Steve Bowden and he agree that it is solid and fun to shoot as first impression and going to be great once at production.

Most importantly for me (and iceman). They have the X factor. IMERSION! Toss on your headphones, turn it up, rock a beverage, and step into the world under the glass.

Super pumped to see the final product. ICeman, just send the deposit! It is just a deposit and you are gonna want to get in the cue now IMHO.

Good work H.

It was plugged in ( 2 of them) and working ( with glitches) for 2.5 hours last night, w nonstop play ( even though single ball)

BUT, I am glad they brought the games, and they LOOK awesome, I mean that is WAY better than JJP waiting until it's "finished" and we all laugh...

Well said!!!...

I played the game tonight and most of the features were broke or did not work. Not a good sign. I guess still prototypes?

I played both games tonight and they worked fine. A few small ball hangups, but those are expected. Both seemed to be functioning as expected from mynpoint of view. A few feaure not available to play, but things look close.

Most important to me is that is shoots very good!

You will want in on this if you're a fan of the theme. Only a deposit needed....I've ranted long enough...game does NOT need defending...not even close. I'm sure we'll know when finished versions will be ready to ship soon enough. When that happens, THEN send $$$$$....

Don't know about you but I've got the email that is clearly stating request for the next50% payment, as per their payment terms.

A few of the features were out, it's hard to beat the theme and A/V on it is very cool (INMHO).

My unsolicited comment would be the fact that the big 27 LCD screen was a mirror. You could so much more atmospherically could be done with different content on the big screen. Such as shock scares that dare you to look away from the playfield screen.

You could use the playfield LCD to direct you using the motion scanner to the correct ramp as a backup to the playfield LCD lighting.

Can we please get some clarity on this?

I thought I read today that 50% was due the week of production, then the last 50% was due when game is ready

Last one I received regarding $$$ ( treated it merely as a heads up, because that's how it reads)

"Dear Mark

I am excited to tell you that we are nearly ready to begin production of ‘Alien Pinball’.

In the near future, we will be releasing a promo video, and some playfield images, for you to see.

The purpose of this email is to give you 2-3 weeks’ notice - before we will ask for the 50% payment of your game – which is due when we begin manufacturing these games.

At this time, you will also be offered additional options – such as LCD screen upgrades, if you have not already upgraded, Non-Reflective glass, Polished Chrome trim, and other options.

As soon as we have received final game approval from our Licensor, 20th Century FOX, we will begin production.

You will be able to make your payment via Paypal, Worldpay or bank wire transfer. We are advising all of our customers to pay by bank wire transfer, to our U.S. bank account, as it avoids costly fees and charges.

Please let me know if you have any further questions. Otherwise I will be in contact with you in a few weeks time.

Yours sincerely,

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Aimee Dando| Chief Administrator"

Heighway Pinball, Unit 35 Rassau Industrial Estate, Ebbw Vale, NP23 5SD United Kingdom.
Email: [email protected] Web: http://www.heighwaypinball.com

You are correct, and that's always been my understanding...

Just like Predator?

Correct and now as I said earlier and from what is on their Facebook page they are now in production.

Hmm just looked over there " production" would be the term to be clarified and quantified a bit, I believe. Hopefully, we will gain clarity soon...

Wow.

Ok so....Just wow

How do you feel about this grossly late pin being ready for its worldwide premier at expo only completed "to a degree" ?

Because supposedly the only thing holding it all up was fox...I'm a preorder same as you and have no problem admitting that I have been completely bullshitted

Oh and your Aimee email was sent a month ago talking about production in 3 weeks...again, more bullshit

Thanks Hilton!

Agreed....I believe "production" is overstated in this case. Meh...I'm just not worried. I pay when I see an invoice, until that, not even on my radar. When that shows up, we'll see where we are.

Andrew, you do realize that you are getting played right? Coming into your own thread and calling a pinsider a coward.

Poor form sir.

They talked a lot about how FOX did cause significant delays, but have gotten what they need now.

I wanted the game in my room a year ago worse than potentially any of you ( maybe a few exceptions). I'm just convinced they've done a lot to this pin since inception to improve it, which also sucked time ( no one knew about the lit inner panels, and he went into great detail as to how hard it was to do). FOX did impede the timeline greater than they had expected.

It's taken longer than he or any of us wanted, period. But what was shown is incredible ( for me).

Back to square one....we all knew this some time back...his timelines are overzealous. Game is living, it will be tweaked and done soon. We will get billed when it's being produced. If you're uncomfortable, get the refund ( stated a thousand times previous).

I don't call bullshit ( usually done w intent) , I call " overoptimism" with unforeseen obstacles, some can be managed, some can't......shit...I've got an early flight back tomorrow...wtf am I doing....peace....mark

Except the guy is not a pinsider... new account with a grand total of 6 posts.... All in this thread. Please dont associate pinside with this kind of outsider activity.