So, I'm in.

I will admit - I haven't seen a new game released that I liked enough to own since around 2005. I really dislike 'band' games (AC/DC, Aerosmith, Michael Jackson, Beatles.. you get the idea (*)) since the music gets old to me, quickly. I'm also rarely a 'band' guy - more of a 'song' guy. I like individual songs, not bands. And Alice? I think I only like two of his songs.

So, when helping Completist unbox his Alice a few weeks ago, I figured I'd play a couple games and call it a night.

Now, I will preface this with saying I had some preconceived notions - I have played TNA and Rob Zombie - I can NOT stand TNA, as even after a handful of games, I have no idea what the f*ck I'm shooting for. The colors on the PF inserts seem to be done for a reason, but heck if I can figure them out. Screen is difficult to read *while playing*, and callouts don't help. Rob Zombie? Well, the handful of games I played on it I liked the layout and flow, but the audio I just couldn't deal with. Sorry.

So, I had (very) low expectations coming into Alice. To make a long story short ("Too late."), my name is on at least half of Completist 's high score table (though sadly, all short of 100m), and I'm in love with the game.

Put deposit down today with PinballSTAR , was told my game 'would' be ready to ship mid-October, but dur to some international non-stop work trips taking up this fall, I've opted to delay delivery until December.

TLDR; haven't seen a new game worth enough of my attention since 2005. Despite not being an Alice Cooper fan, this game.. just f*ckin' rocks.

(*) - Though, I would love a Weird Al pinball.

Holy heck, that reminded me!

I forgot to mention!

I am prepared, just in case! I even have a few options in case!
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Back from my work trip up to Minneapolis.

On the drive back, I went a little out of my way to see Spooky's ''warehouse'' and ''factory''.

I'll admit - the bumper sticker on their front door is fuckin' hilarious. I didn't get a pic, but should be getting one with my game, and when I do, I'll grab a shot of it.

Anyways, Charlie was great host, showed me how the games were being made. (Those who has games in the line, I'm sorry - I MAY have touched it.) Was neat to see - far different atmosphere (both assembly and morale) than WMS or Stern.

Was neat to see, and once I get back from my next work assignment, I look forward to getting my game.

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When I was there (see previous comment), they weren't making Butter cabs.

And after having seeing one, I am really effin' impressed by them.

Honestly, I would SERIOUSLY wish the "Tilt Next Player" was a possible award. Seriously, could like tilt the next player between 5 and 20 seconds after ball launch.

I always thought those lines were 'routes'. i.e. You can go left (left orbit) or right (right orbit) to get to each of the next rooms. Room that you can only go left (or right) from only have one little black line.

As mentioned previously in this thread, it's still being worked on. It'll be posted and available ... when it's ready.

No worries!

I've noticed this too.. I would actually like to see the screen's level lowered some. When I get my game, I'm going to see if I can very slightly adjust it downwards.

Couple questions, after playing Completist 's game last night. (Mine's still in the queue!)

- Are there only two coin inputs in the game?
- How easy is it to (later) add a shaker motor? I did NOT order mine with one, and now am thinking that I may need it. Hard to tell on his machine, since the sound is so loud (and awesome - not a complaint!) that the bass acts as its own shaker..)
- Has anyone else noticed seemingly random ball saves? Sometimes I've had the game give the ball back to me when the insert was not lit. Other times, at the end of a mode or two, the insert has been lit without a timer until the player drained, and then the game gives the ball back and then cleared the ball save.
- Sometimes I've noticed the Mystery Hole lit, and when shot does NOT award anything. Just gives the ball right back. A subsequent shot then awards the Mystery Award. Anyone else get this?
- The (not so) Secret Passage seems to, on Completist 's game, be a flow killer - any soft shot or non-square shot up there not only doesn't seem to make it around, but seems to hold the bal for a good 5, 10 or 15 seconds before rolling back out. Is this expected/normal?

Thanks guys

Just FYI - payment requested for #392. (No butter.)

Okay, that's effin' awesome. Very well done!

Got notice my game shipped.

I'm not home yet, and can't effin' wait.

392, no butter!

Yes yes yes.
My game is waiting for me at the shipper's. Will be heading down tomorrow to pick it up!

Well, #392 successfully unboxed, set up, and played!

Was able to play ONE game and crashed it. It now bootloops. Sent email in, waiting to hear back. BUT, the one game? I fuckin' rocked.
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I also got a decal! Lemme tell you, these people rock..
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As an aside, my game was shipped with v1.0.7.4, and the resistor was 'OFF' by default. I did not change it.

Turns out this was due to a faulty 5/12v power supply. Temporary one in there, and I'm back to playing!

To anyone that has the lighted speaker panel -
Does yours display anything OTHER than green? Mine seem to just stay green or off, sometimes flickering or strobing (especially in attract mode..)

hah! Now I wonder who's shoved in between us.

Sorry, I'm also quite hyper. I'll shutup.

Nah, powersupplies are standard. If something happened with one of the boards? I know next to nothing about the PRoc boards, I would have been lost. The most recent stuff I ever worked on was WPC95. Heh.

Years and years of bein' a tech and operator, it has helped with debugging and fixing.
having said that, it's *entirely* possible that something else is just drawing too much current, pushing the Mean Well over it's 1A capacity. I'll find out when I get the replacement, and if the issue returns. Will let ya'll know.

Thanks again for the quick help!

To those running 1.0.7.4 - are you able to Lab Lock ball #1?

Playing a friend's on 1.0.7.0, every first ball shot up the left ramp would be locked. In my game, even though the "Lab Lock 1" insert is blue, the diverter stays in the middle position. In test mode, it goes to all three positions freely.

I'm assuming it's a software thing, but wanted to get a verification.

Depends on how dark your gameroom is.
With ambient lighting, not needed at all.
In an almost black room? Yes, as the lightshows go completely off often, making it impossible to see the ball. (Which, in and of itself, can be a fun way to play!)

Fuck.
Mine dosen't. Will send an email in.

Thanks for answering and letting me know.

Interesting. In test mode (setting the Servo adjustment) the gate moves all the way to the tree positions. (Left, Mid, Right) But when I start a game, it never moves to allow the ball to lock. It did ONCE, when I somehow got a two-player game stuck in Skill Shot mode, as a shot up there caused it to lock. But that was the only time, oddly.

Okay little more study, and it looks like when the ball is launched, my gate opens left. Then between a second to two seconds later, it returns to middle position.

Logs don't show anything strange, so will send Spooky an email.

Edit: And thanks to Yoreland , I think I figured my issue out. My TOP drop target (#3, the one on the upper PF) was not restting. I NEVER NOTICED during game play, but it looks like the software is aborting the lock (moving the gate to the middle) when the drop target isn't resetting properly. I will verify this tomorrow when I fix my target.

It looks like your "backDropTarget" isn't dropping as it should, so the ball is trying to get tossed up into the scoop, and cannot make it, the game it trying over and over.

I don't yet have all the test menus memorized, but there may be a test where you can test the different coils, and verify it drops.

Edit: Go to the Drop Target Test mode, and run it. This should tell you is they're all working as expected.

What did you have your angle at? Higher than 7?

Yup ,I will. I ned to run out and get some inspections done this morning - once I get back though, I'll be taking a closer look at that area. Thanks!

Gameplay question, guys -
If the Mystery Hole is lit (for a Mystery award), and you shoot up to the upper playfield, and then drain the ball through EITHER the left lane or the far right Crypt hole - both of these end up in tyhe Mystery Hole for kickout - does it award the Mystery Award?

Had this happen (both ways), and .. it didn't see right.

Huh, you're right. Okay, something else strange happened on that one, then. But the left Bonus lane? Would it fire a Mystery Award (if it was lit)?

I use my phone, honestly. And then do a ball-roll test.

Another ping!
Anyone that got the DBA door, please PM me? I'm working on a few things to forward to Spooky and need a larger sample machine size than 'one'.

I... don't have anyone to play with.

No. Sadly, the Coil Test needs a (lot) of work:
When you select a coil, you hit Start to 'run' the test. Currently, the test fires the coil only once. If you want to fire the coil again, you need to hit Start a again (to stop the test) and then a third time to restart the test, where the coil fires once.

Really hard to hold a multimeter in places when you need a fifth hand to hit the start button.

Oh, I found the one I was looking for. The PDF above has everything I could find, and a few "?"s I couldn't track down. I didn't get beyond the MPU because I was (and still am) down with a hard cold.

I believe that the Save Magnet is used when a ball rolls down an outlane and you are NOT in a multiball.

This happened to my game and a another local pinhead's game. To get (them both), I undid the back latch, and SLIGHTLY (like, under an inch) tilted the backbox forward. THen I was able to hand-scre thee bolt down for almost entire way. Then re-latch the backbox and final tighten the bolt.

Actually, my ACNC is doing it a LOT - at least once a game. (And I used to see it a lot on WPC/WPC95 games - but not as often, and there's a reason for that..)

There seems to be code in the game where if the trough coil fires, and then the shooter lane switch is NOT closed, the trough coil will fire AGAIN. IN MY case, this happens because the ball is ejected so hard that it bounces back and barely rests on the trough's edge. The second fire will kick a second ball up. Depending on how happy physics is at the time, the second ball will drop back into the trough, or end up in the shooter lane.

On WPC/WPC-95 games, the game wouldn't try to 'rekick' out a ball if the shooter lane wasn't closed. It WOULD gently fire (like at 25% strength) the coil if the Trough Jam opto was stuck, which would sometimes give you two balls.

I'm worried if the shooter lane switch actually causes this (this is all speculation as right now I'm focusing on my drop target - other things are less important), as that could get REALLY annoying if that shooter lane switch suddenly died.

If this is the case, then the "unjam" coil kick should be a low percentage of the strength setting. Like under 50%. (The goal is to simply 'unjam' the balls, which gravity is already helping you with..)

Where's your door lock cam?!?!

Congrats!

Number neighbors!

... And today I take my game apart.
At least, a little. I need/want to wax it up good, but more importantly, I need to swap my two Coil Drive boards, to see if my guess is right and that my Drop Target Reset issue is because of the board. I'm guessing it is, and I'm guessing it failed is what took out my power supply.

Am guessing, which is why I need to swap boards, see what happens.

Then, email in to Spooky and see what they say.

Before I do this, though.. I still need to play 5 more games.

Oh, and I'm thinking of adding a shooter lane protector to my game. Since i had the glass off, I thought I would look at the shooter/trough kickout.

One thing I noticed? There's no metal guard on the wood rail, and my rail - after likely only 100 games (maybe less, I need to check my stats), there is already a noticeable depression there where the balls are kicked out of the trough. I was actually really surprised that there WASN'T one there already. (Hell, even my Meteor - with one of the weakest kickout coils - has one..!)

Likely will buy one from somewhere, get it powdercoated black.

I have ya'll beat.
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Had one ball locked in Crypt, and was starting a new ball. The ball did NOT rest on the shooter lane, instead it bounced off the wood and was resting on the edge of the trough outhole. So the game then kicked a second ball out. BOTH then landed COMPLETELY on the shooter lane. So it should NOT have TRIED to kick the third ball out, yet it did.

After this, things went a little crazy. With three balls on the playfield, the autolauncher thought I shot the right Path, and started Cold Ethel. The fourth ball was released, so I had a 4-ball Ethel going on.

Eventually got down to one ball - and drained it.

Ethel continued. I had to open the coin door, and manually eject a ball from the trough. Played it a little longer, and then it drained again. The game then jumped back into 'single' ball mode (Ethel over) and then immediately went into Bonus.

Rest of the game, everything worked fine.

Recommendation: In the switch test, instead of just telling me 'balls missing' or 'all balls present', let me SEE which of the 4 switches are registering. If one is stuck on, I'd like to know which one.

And of ALL the issues that a new game COULD have? This is like, about at the same level as the effin' coin door latch being missing. It's a small issue and when it DOES happen, it doesn't 'ruin' the game at all. (Hell, sometimes it makes it more challenging. Werewolf with two balls? Better friggin' plan your shots better, or you're dead.. )

So far, I've only notice it catch and chopduring normal game mode during the second shot. (So, shoot the first, it goes through. Shoot the second, it get stopped and chopped. The lowesr I've ever gotten was 5, and after that 8, each one went through.)

Will need to look, I didn't notice if Mystery was lit or not honestly!

Yeah, I was meaning during NORMAL, non-monster mode.
In Alice Cooper Monster mode, that's the same for me - 3.

Yup, I just played a few game - happens to me whether the Mystery Hole is lit or not - always the second chop shot. (That gets my count from 9 to 8.)
I'm on v1.0.7.4, and that may explain if you don't?

Does this mean he doesn't lift or change position when trying to set the high/low limit?

If so, check the cabling to the servo, it's possible one got disconnected.

Quick shot question for ya'll..

Does your Secret Passage loop seriously slow down the ball?

On my game, unless I get the shot *exactly*, the ball will never make it around. And when I DO hit it dead-on, the fall will FLY up there, and then.. after a few seconds, just dribble out the right loop. It kinda kills the flow - especially for Combos and the such.

Okay, thanks guys. Was just worried there was something up with my game.

Yes. That is it.

If it makes you feel any better, my game (#392) was shipped with v1.0.7.4, had the resistor option set to Yes already (meaning: I did not turn it on at first), and my game does NOT have the resistor.

I get about a 50% success rate, for the record. (Using Pattern 2, playfield set at 6.8, give or take.)

If you look at the document I posted earlier, should be pretty easy to figure out how to hook it up.

So, I am likely going to be exiled from this thread for this, but..

I could not f*cking stand the flipper rubbers that came on the game. I couldn't figure out why, but I just could NOT make shots. So, today, I took the glass off and waxed the field, and put blue flipper rubbers on the bottom flippers. I also adjusted them so that they were more parallel to the inline feeds. (Hey, SpookyCharlie and SpookyLuke , see the note below..) Once I did that? Holy hell, that changed my game completely. I can make shots like I expect to. I can stop-catch balls, and pass from flipper to flipper. Ghods, yes. :mregreen:

Note: Hey, Spooky guys: You may be familiar with the flipper alignment holes. THey were on WPC, WPC-95, and .. as far as I know, on just about every game released. You even put them on ACNC! ... But they're.. past the end of the flipper. So they can't be used. They also look to be a little off alignment - they are meant to have a toothpick inserted into them and *between* the flipper rubber and flipper bat (it was done this way so that the flipper rubber would hold the flipper bat where it needs to be, as the PF is lifted and bolts tightens down). If my flippers were longer, it looks like these holes would need to have the flipper rubber rest on them, which would be really difficult to keep in place while tightening down the bolts.

Okay, sorry guys. Done preaching.

No, mine were slightly angled upwards. Was a to-do for me to fix, since it just.. bothered my OCD. The blue rubbers I got from Steve and Pinball Resource. They're about the same as red rubber as far as bounciness goes, but sadly they're only available for larger flippers. (Not the smaller one up on the upper PF.)

Quick, Quick summary since I don't wanna spam the ACNC thread, but:
In the old days, the color of the rubber affected it's bounciness. Before, y'know, we had silicon and whatever else. Black was stiffer, Red was softer, more bouncy. Gottlieb used a blue rubber, which seems to be the same as Red. There USED to be a white produced, and I'm not sure of it's bounciness properties. (This was true for ring rubbers as well - white bounced more than black, for exmaple)

Likeky nowadays, the color doesn't affect the bounciness of the rubber. I put blue ones on because I know they're soft, and they look better on the playfield than red. (Though, not as good as the purple, I will admit.)

0.o That sounds really interesting, now..

Good to know these are PBL's and not Titans. I wasn't 100% sure. And yes - while I may not really like these Silicone bands (anyone's), Superbands? Superbands can all be tossed into the sun they are horrid. *ahem* Sorry.

Speaking of rubbers - I'm having an issue with my upper gate as well - except the ball is not bouncing out - If I flip right, I can somehow get the ball up under that gate and down the ramp. Otherwise, I would have changed that out too.

Also - aaah, this is good to know. While I DID have DE games back in the 90's on location, I did not nearly have enough of them to remember this, apparently. Good. Thank you for the clarification!

I may just fart in your face and install some A-12111 coil stops in my flipper mechs. Muhaha!

A-12390. These give the flipper more limited travel, and were introduced and changed while WMS was producing Twilight Zones. A-12111's allow for greater flipper travel, which makes it much friendlier for catching/trapping balls.

*gasp* Heresy! How do you catch balls? Backflip? Sheesh. You kids these days. No control..

I just realized something new.

Apparently there are different 'colors' of skillshots. At least Red and Blue. After the ball is launched, the LCD will show the foyer with the different passages 'lit' (highlighted) in a slightly-colored halo. Some skillshots give you the ball saver. Some give you the ball saver and secret passage. Anyone know of any others?

I just realized it tonight - I was under the impression (though sods like I'm wrong) that the values changed... On my game at least (1.0.7.4) when I shoot a skillshot, I'll get a red or blue screen with items awarded. Like the score (1, 2 million) and "Ball Save" lit and such.

I posted a small PDF of wiring connections for coils. It's a key post (which I have no idea how to look for) but it's listed in my latest one.

I just need to get this out of my system:
AAAARRGGH!!

... Okay, I feel better. I'm on my way home from the office, and am just going to play my game.
I haven't gotten CLOSE to BDB yet, and likely won't. I recently noticed that some of the rooms were always being skipped. I wanted to know what they were! (Kitchen and Parlor). So I upped the difficulty, just so I could visit those rooms.

Oh, I'm glad to see your lock latch came intact! (I love this running gag, by the way..)

Interesting follow-up note to this. Maybe the rubbers that came with my game were warped, or it's the material that put spin on the ball or something, but with the blue real rubbers I put on, I can very easily make the Secret passage loop now - so well that it will even count towards a Combo shot, which I've /never/ been able to do before. This makes me feel a lot better about that shot (and now, combos and quick-shots in

For me? Maybe 10% of the time it will end up in the outlane, or bouncing across the playfield.

I don't have that, I do have dimpling if you look closely. In the upper PF, in the left "X" lane I have a small divot appearing, I'm guessing because the castle may be slightly too close to the PF and the ball's hitting.

Matches can never award extra balls - your game is over. And if you then continued it, your score would change. Replays, Specials can award Extra Balls. (I know in ACNC, you can set Replay to award an extra ball - that's what I do. I don't know if Specials even exist.)

+1 on Cliffys. I'm worried about my Mystery Hole scoop.

Hey guys - quick question:
My two lower drop targets have stopped dropping. It's almost as if the drop coil isn't strong enough. (Even after turning them up.) The latches seem to be binding.

Anyone run across this, and know the preferred fix?

I didn't even know that video existed. Awesome. Yes, that was my issue. When I was looking at it, I noticed that it (what he called the coil stop) seemed quite a bit away from the coil itself.

When I get a chance while making the ham, I will try this!

Stopped at the closest record store to my office yesterday, and had to pick this up..

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No offense, but oh ghods no. Please. It's not like ACNC playfields are unobtanium, and if you clean and wax your field regularly, it'll last your lifetime. This plastic thing.. holy hell, the effect it would have on the ball makes me cringe.

Yes, awesome! Your coin door is complete!

Wanna hear some thoughts -
If ACNC had a "Midnight Madness" mode, what would you expect to happen?

I was kinda disappointed that there wasn't a Midnight Madness, and started thinking up ideas for such a thing.

This. I would even take it a step farther:
As someone who lost the power supply that feeds +5 and +12v, it is a SMALL supply. Stressing it could cause it to fail. I would find a small Mean Well supply, and just add it to the game, and power everything off of it. Another small supply should be found easily, and cheaply.

Not 100% sure, but if it was a light-source shining into the opto, it wouldn't trigger a false activation, but would cause it to miss an ACTUAL activation. (i.e. NOT see the ball when it IS there..)

Since Optos are 'normally closed' when they're NOT activated, it's possible that there's an issue with a wire somewhere. Or, the opto is just starting to fail (entirely possible).

A lightly far-shot, but is your star post on the upper playfield (under the flipper across from the Cold Ethyl switch) loose? On my game, my little nylon nut fell off, and got stuck against the bottom drop target. It's possible that the opto is getting shorted because of the small nut. Just something to check. Also try cleaning the opto holes, just in case.

Good luck, am curious what you find.

Per the post earlier, the next update is being worked on, and they're holding off until they get the reset / memory hog thing sorted.

Please try to help him - I've done about all I can from a distance.

Haven't ever had this happen, so I can't comment. Looking at the PF, could it be that your left ramp is missing a plastic cover over it, so that balls coming up TO Frank or the upper PF are flying off and down?

Likely the opto in the end - it does sound like the opto *(or transmitter!) is overheating the longer it's on. I would see if you can get a replacement pair, and swap them out. If the issue continues, well, no problem in having a spare part for the future..

This - your "Lock Left" isn't low enough.

Like others have said, when you start your third Monster (via any way - either Secret Passage, Mystery Hole, Orbits, or Frankenstein's Monster multiball), it will light.

Huh, this is odd - my spinner provides no resistance at all. It's possible your spinner was just needing some adjustment..

Remember! Check your coin door!!

Looking for a guinea pig to test out a Mod. Just need one person. If interested, please drop me a PM.

Thanks!

Yeah, I discovered this before as well. They say there's a stronger part available, on mine I just weakened the spring slightly, which seemed to help.

They're apparently working on it.

Anyone? I promise this will NOT blow up your game.

...If it DOES, it can be VERY easily fixed.

Right now, as I believe it, the only difference is how many 'rooms' you travel per orbit. The default, 'School's Out' will send you two. The hardest, 'Nightmare', sends you only one. I believe that the easiest sends you three up, so the next orbit shot will award the Monster.

I have no problem with it on my game. Though, I also don't play the game in the complete dark.

1. Personally, I would think it would depend more on the parent OF the kid than the kid. There's no swearing (as far as I've heard yet) and the artwork is clean, if spooky. Some of the song lyrics could be taken the wrong way, and I think that's the worst of it.

2. It can go either way - I've had issues, but nothing more than I've eveer had back in the 90's with WMS or DE/Sega games. Others here have had worse luck, and a lot have had better.

Make sure to invite him to the MGC! Seriously!

I just noticed while playing today that shooting the Guillotine during a monster mode - even modes that have nothing to do with it (like Werewolf) - do NOT award you a "Chop".

I was let down, as duiring the Werewolf, I got a good 3 or 4 shots up the Guillotine, and when the mode ended, I was still at "9 shots to Extra Ball". I was really bummed.

With all the attention on R&M, likely this will get lost here, but..

If anyone does NOT have the little plastic disk over their center magnet, *and* is having issues with the ball save, *AND* wants to beta-test a software solution, please send me a PM.

Wow, nice!

There was talk a handful of pages back that there was an update coming. (Don't know about "massive"..) Supposedly they're holing back until the memory leak can be found.

Sadly, I don't think it's going to be a thing. But I really, REALLY hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, no mention of re-adding a feature that was removed, sadly.

Apparently pinside removed your quote, as my message of "yeah, no mention of reintroducing code that was removed" was in reply to your double-quoted message here:

You're on 1.0.7.6? Or something before that?

If on that, any tips appreciated on how the flying fuck to get in touch with whoever I NEED to be in touch with for beta-testing would be helpful. Was told I was on the beta team, but then silence since October. From ALL the Spooky accounts.

I'm looking forward to what they can do, and am about to have some people test new magnet ballsave code, making it somewhat more reliable.

Likely since R&M use the same hardware, once it's release, you can contact them and order a screen and use it. I didn't see enough of the game in the video to notice a difference in the screen though.

Aah, I missed that!

Seeing how the LCD used uses HDMI in, find one the same size of the panel, and you should be able to switch them out. I, personally, would look for an OLED one.

Agreed. Personally, even an IPS isn't necessary. I have no issue with the one that's in the game. Plus, once I moved it down to the lower mounting holes, I can see the top of the screen now.

The only switch that causes a Crypt Lock to happen is the opto behind the drop target. If the game sees that as being blocked, then it'll award you the lock.

For this issue, I'm 95% sure it's still a hardware issue - anything from vibrations to a bad mounting angle of the opto, to the opto starting to fail. (Hell, it COULD even be a bad switch board or wiring.) Something time-relate like this would NOT be software - *especially since they're rebooting the game code every 'x' games to fix the memory leak*.

The trough kicking out multiple balls into the shooter lane IS a software issue. And one I hope they did fix in the next release.

According to Spooky, the only thing they 'don't know' how to fix yet is the memory leak - which is why the temporary fix of rebooting the game every 'x' times is occuring.

Edit to add: Regarding Crypt - I'm meaning during normal gameplay mode. There ARE software issues with Frank Multiball and Ethyl Modes.

Esentuially, the game will get confused on how many balls were out, should be out. I've had cases where I've LOCKED a ball in the Crypt, and it gave me a ball out of the trough - and when I drained one, I had the best single-ball multiball going. (Because the game thought thtere was still two out there.) Once I unlocked the locked Crypt ball, the game recovered when I drained.

There is - but the crypt lock will treat it as locked regardless of the drop target state, and the opto is blocked for a quarter of a second or longer. And there appears to be no correction handed if the switch suddenly becomes 'unblocked' after that quarter second. But, since the opto is unblocked now, if it happens again, it just replays the Crypt Lock animation.

Curious - limit how? The duration? When it's active?