TLDR version of this post:
- I saw/counted the same rubbers as Crile1, except he found 1 more 3/8" than I did. I would use his counts if I needed to order rubbers today.
- KingPinGames seemed to have some more precise ring sizes for the larger rings, but the counts don't add up and he is most definitely missing some rubbers in his list. It's difficult to say whether the ring sizes he suggests are right, and how many are needed, and where they go, without disassembling the game to measure all the rings.
- I'm really annoyed at all the discrepancies, so I'm placing a Titan order for my/Crile1's rubbers PLUS some of the additional sizes listed by KingPinGames to get to the bottom of this. I plan to document location and measure when I remove, and post "my" version of the list.
I'm about 99% sure the actual rubbers are:
2x - Flipper Rubber - Standard Size
1x left flipper
1x right flipper1x - Flipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size
1x upper playfield flipper2x - 2-1/2" Rubber Rings
1x left sling
1x right sling2x - 3/8" OD Rubber Rings
1x above left sling
1x above right sling4x - 3/8" ID Rubber Rings
4x upper playfield near the left habitrail entrance4x - 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
1x left outlane
2x upper playfield near Ethyl drop
1x upper playfield near guillotine entrance4x - 1-1/2" Rubber Ring (3 star posts)
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
1x "Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
1x right outlane
1x upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and castle tower drop3x - 1" Rubber Ring (2 post, short)
1x near right orbit entrance
1x upper playfield between right ramp exit & guillotine entrance
1x upper playfield between "Lab Lock 2" shot & Vampire target3x - 2" (2 post, long)
1x between Ethyl lock and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x between Secret Passage and "Light Mystery" shot
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout6x - 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
2x right ramp
2x left ramp
1x between "Light Mystery" shot and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x upper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit
...but I'm going to order the extra rubbers just in case.
I'm just worried that I somehow missed a post or ring somewhere hidden, so I'm posting everywhere I looked and what I found.
Here are the places on the playfield where I spotted rubbers (verified by my wife) (boy that's an awkward statement):
Left Sling
Right sling
Above left sling
Above right sling
Left outlane
"Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
"Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
Left ramp entrance:
Between Secret Passage and "Light Mystery" shot
Between "Light Mystery" shot and "Change Monster Mode" targets
Between Ethyl lock and "Change Monster Mode" targets
Right ramp entrance:
Near right orbit entrance
Right outlane
Upper playfield near the left habitrail entrance
Upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and castle tower drop
Upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and "Lab Lock 2" shot
Upper playfield between "Lab Lock 2" shot & Vampire target
Upper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit
Upper playfield between right ramp exit & guillotine entrance
Upper playfield near guillotine entrance
Upper playfield near Ethyl drop
Flipper Rubber - Standard Size
Flipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size
Crile1 weighs in at 32 rubbers
(actually 29, but he didn't list the flipper rubbers so 29 + 3 flippers = 32)
I am pretty sure Spooky Luke used this when he sent the rubbers list to Silkenone. Luke's list was even typed the same way Crile1's Post-It was written.
Post Sleeve-6
2x right ramp
2x left ramp
1x between "Light Mystery" shot and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x upper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit3/8"OD-2
1x above left sling
1x above right sling3/16"-5 (I think this is a typo and should be 3/8" ID)
4x upper playfield near the left habitrail entrance
1x ???? (I couldn't find this one)5/16"-4
1x left outlane
2x upper playfield near Ethyl drop
1x upper playfield near guillotine entrance1"-3
1x near right orbit entrance
1x upper playfield between right ramp exit & guillotine entrance
1x upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and "Lab Lock 2" shot1 1/2"-5
1x upper playfield between "Lab Lock 2" shot & Vampire target (I think this may be mis-measured? Looks like 1" to me but I didn't remove it)
1x upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and castle tower drop
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
1x "Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
1x right outlane2"-2
1x between Ethyl lock and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x between Secret Passage and "Light Mystery" shot2 1/2"-2
1x left sling
1x right sling
KingPinGames and the manual weigh in at 29 rubbers
10x - 3/8" Bumper Post Rings
2x upper playfield near Ethyl drop
1x upper playfield near guillotine entrance
4x upper playfield near the left habitrail entrance
3x ???2x - 2-1/2" Rubber Rings
1x left sling
1x right sling3x - 2" Rubber Rings
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
1x "Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
1x right outlane1x - 1-1/4" Rubber Ring
1x upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and castle tower drop (I think?)5x - 1" Rubber Rings
1x near right orbit entrance
1x upper playfield between right ramp exit & guillotine entrance
1x upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and "Lab Lock 2" shot
1x upper playfield between "Lab Lock 2" shot & Vampire target
1x ???3x - 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
2x left ramp
1x Secret Passage1x - 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
1x left outlane2x - 3/8" OD Mini Post Rubbers
1x above left sling
1x above right sling2x - Flipper Rubber - Standard Size – Purple
1x left flipper
1x right flipper1x - Flipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size – Red
1x upper playfield flipperUnaccounted for, but I spotted on the playfield:
1x between Ethyl lock and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x between Secret Passage and "Light Mystery" shot2x right ramp
1x upper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit
My numbers, weighing in at 31 rubbers
2x - Flipper Rubber - Standard Size
1x left flipper
1x right flipper1x - Flipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size
1x upper playfield flipper2x - 2-1/2" Rubber Rings
1x left sling
1x right sling2x - 3/8" OD Rubber Rings
1x above left sling
1x above right sling4x - 3/8" ID Rubber Rings
4x upper playfield near the left habitrail entrance4x - 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
1x left outlane
2x upper playfield near Ethyl drop
1x upper playfield near guillotine entrance4x - 1-1/2" Rubber Ring (3 star posts)
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
1x "Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
1x right outlane
1x upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and castle tower drop3x - 1" Rubber Ring (2 post, short)
1x near right orbit entrance
1x upper playfield between right ramp exit & guillotine entrance
1x upper playfield between "Lab Lock 2" shot & Vampire target3x - 2" (2 post, long)
1x between Ethyl lock and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x between Secret Passage and "Light Mystery" shot
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout6x - 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
2x right ramp
2x left ramp
1x between "Light Mystery" shot and "Change Monster Mode" targets
1x upper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit
So let's look at it another way: by location.
Left Sling
Crile1: 1x 2 1/2"
KingPinGames: 1x 2-1/2" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 2-1/2" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 2-1/2" Rubber RingRight sling
Crile1: 1x 2 1/2"
KingPinGames: 1x 2-1/2" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 2-1/2" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 2-1/2" Rubber RingAbove left sling
Crile1: 1x 3/8"OD
KingPinGames: 1x 3/8" OD Mini Post Rubbers
Me: 1x 3/8" OD Mini Post Rubbers
Verdict: 1x 3/8" OD Mini Post RubbersAbove right sling
Crile1: 1x 3/8"OD
KingPinGames: 1x 3/8" OD Mini Post Rubbers
Me: 1x 3/8" OD Mini Post Rubbers
Verdict: 1x 3/8" OD Mini Post RubbersLeft outlane
Crile1: 1x 5/16"
KingPinGames: 1x 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
Me: 1x 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
Verdict: 1x 5/16" Bumper Post Ring"Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
Crile1: 1x 1 1/2"
KingPinGames: N/A
Me: 1x 1-1/2" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 1-1/2" Rubber Ring"Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
Crile1: 1x 1 1/2"
KingPinGames: N/A
Me: 1x approximately 2" rubber ring
Verdict: ???? (could be 1-1/2" or 2")Left ramp entrance:
Crile1: 2x Post Sleeves
KingPinGames: 2x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
Me: 2x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
Verdict: 2x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post SleevesBetween Secret Passage and "Light Mystery" shot
Crile1: 1x 2"
KingPinGames: 1x 2" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 2" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 2" Rubber RingBetween "Light Mystery" shot and "Change Monster Mode" targets
Crile1: 1x Post Sleeve
KingPinGames: N/A
Me: 1x x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
Verdict: 1x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post SleevesBetween Ethyl lock and "Change Monster Mode" targets
Crile1: 1x 2"
KingPinGames: 1x 2" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x approximately 2" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 2" Rubber RingRight ramp entrance:
Crile1: 2x Post Sleeves
KingPinGames: N/A
Me: 2x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeves
Verdict: 2x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post SleevesNear right orbit entrance
Crile1: 1x 1"
KingPinGames: 1x 1" Rubber Rings
Me: 1x 1" Rubber Rings
Verdict: 1x 1" Rubber RingsRight outlane
Crile1: 1x 1 1/2"
KingPinGames: 1x 2" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 1-1/2" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 1-1/2" Rubber RingUpper playfield near the left habitrail entrance
Crile1: 4x 3/16"
KingPinGames: 4x 3/8" Bumper Post Rings
Me: 4x 3/8" ID Bumper Post Rings
Verdict: 4x 3/8" ID Bumper Post RingsUpper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and castle tower drop
Crile1: 1x 1 1/2"
KingPinGames: 1x 1-1/4" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 1" Rubber Ring
Verdict: ??? (could be 1", 1-1/4", 1-1/2")Upper playfield between "Extra Ball" target and "Lab Lock 2" shot
Crile1: 1x 1"
KingPinGames: 1x 1" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 1" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 1" Rubber RingUpper playfield between "Lab Lock 2" shot & Vampire target
Crile1: 1x 1 1/2"
KingPinGames: 1x 1" Rubber Rings
Me: 1x 1" Rubber Rings
Verdict: 1x 1" Rubber RingsUpper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit
Crile1: 1x Post Sleeve
KingPinGames: N/A
Me: 1x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeve
Verdict: 1x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post SleeveUpper playfield between right ramp exit & guillotine entrance
Crile1: 1x 1"
KingPinGames: 1x 1" Rubber Ring
Me: 1x 1" Rubber Ring
Verdict: 1x 1" Rubber RingUpper playfield near guillotine entrance
Crile1: 5/16"
KingPinGames: 1x 3/8" Bumper Post Ring
Me: 1x 3/8" Bumper Post Ring
Verdict: 1x 3/8" Bumper Post RingUpper playfield near Ethyl drop
Crile1: 2x 5/16"
KingPinGames: 2x 3/8" Bumper Post Rings
Me: 2x 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
Verdict: 2x 5/16" Bumper Post RingFlipper Rubber - Standard Size
Crile1: 2x
KingPinGames: 2x
Me: 2x
Verdict: 2x Flipper Rubber - Standard SizeFlipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size
Crile1: 1x
KingPinGames: 1x
Me: 1x
Verdict: 1x - Flipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size
This leaves the following unaccounted for:
Crile1
3x 3/16"
KingPinGames
3x 3/8" Bumper Post Rings
1x 1" Rubber Rings
1x "Collects Mystery When Pulsing" kickout
1x "Collects Hurry Up When Pulsing" target
2x right ramp
1x upper playfield between the Vampire target & right ramp exit
Me
Nothing?
So this matrix ends up with 43 rubbers accounted for (there is some overlap and duplication):
5x 1-1/2" Rubber Ring
1x 1-1/4" Rubber Ring
6x 1-1/16" Thin (Stern Compatible) Rubber Post Sleeve
5x 1" Rubber Ring
3x 2" Rubber Ring
10x 3/8" Bumper Post Ring
4x 5/16" Bumper Post Ring
2x 2-1/2" Rubber Ring
4x 3/8" ID Bumper Post Rings
1x Flipper Rubber - 1" Mini Size
2x Flipper Rubber - Standard Size
So 43 rubbers possibly accounted for, and somewhere between 29-32 rubbers counted in the playfield (29, 31, 32).
I am going to order all 43 and see what I end up with left over. That's approximately 10-14 rubbers too many, but who knows which ones are wrong.
Is there a rubber I missed??
Added over 4 years ago:OK! I found and measured every rubber: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/alice-coopers-nightmare-castle-club-enter-at-own-risk/page/99#post-5731017