Attack from Mars
Bally, 1995Quoted from ralphwiggum:I think I read somewhere that ebay's total fees will never go beyond $100.00 for any item not in automobile listings. It's the PP fees that are the killer.
That's how it used to be if you started a $0.99 bid auction but they have recently changed that up to $250 plus PP fees of 3% so yeah on $7500 it would cost $475 which is completely outrageous
Quoted from davewtf:How much do you want for your other games? You said you were getting out of the hobby?
I most likely won't be able to sell my TF ALE because I refuse to take a $1000+ hit on it since its still a brand new machine with less than 200 games on it. I paid $6100 for it and would sell it for $5500 but no less than that.
My LOTR LE however is also in brand new shape still with lots of extras I was thinking of listing it for $6k and go from there
Quoted from britrex1:That's how it used to be if you started a $0.99 bid auction but they have recently changed that up to $250 plus PP fees of 3% so yeah on $7500 it would cost $475 which is completely outrageous
Ouch.... Like they weren't getting enough already....
Quoted from rommy:So you will at least still have one or two pins. You'll be able to play still when the pin bug bites [
] good luck with sale
LOL yeah maybe
Quoted from britrex1:LOL yeah maybe
I just read your review of tf in that other thread. Let me say I think it would have sucked to be in on that pre-order. It would have been my first nib from stern, and to have all those things promised and not delivered is just plain WEIRD. who does that anymore? i mean it's not like they can keep it a secret now.
On this afm , I want to encourage you to wait. Consider just leaving this thread alone and starting a new one after school starts, say middle of August. If you could get 7500 then, that's maybe $20 a day just for waiting.
Quoted from rommy:On this afm , I want to encourage you to wait. Consider just leaving this thread alone and starting a new one after school starts, say middle of August. If you could get 7500 then, that's maybe $20 a day just for waiting.
This is great advice. There are 4 AFM's for sale on pinside right now; pull yours out and wait six weeks till summer is over and people are all back to normal pinball life and not traveling the country/world with their families.
Quoted from britrex1:I most likely won't be able to sell my TF ALE because I refuse to take a $1000+ hit on it since its still a brand new machine with less than 200 games on it. I paid $6100 for it and would sell it for $5500 but no less than that.
Yea, he must not have drop shipped I guess. Dunno, I was thinking that as well.
Quoted from spfxted:OR...the price could drop by another $500. Besides the AFM's on sale here, I know a few people getting theirs ready for sale. When the prices went crazy, every pinball restorer scarfed up any machine they could find.
I sure would like to see the overall price on AFM go back to where it was two months ago . . . cause I'd really like a CQ blinged out example of this machine but at 10-11k for one of those I am not a buyer.
Quoted from TigerLaw:I'd really like a CQ blinged out example of this machine but at 10-11k for one of those I am not a buyer.
There are only so many people wanting or able to spend $8-10K on an AFM. When they all have one, the price will come down. AND there are a few real interesting NEW machines coming out at the $5-7.5K range.
Quoted from spfxted:OR...the price could drop by another $500. Besides the AFM's on sale here, I know a few people getting theirs ready for sale. When the prices went crazy, every pinball restorer scarfed up any machine they could find.
It seems to me that AFM took a huge leap in value seemingly overnight. Call me crazy, but the way that I see it is that the thread that was started here about the AFM that was listed on ebay that sold for $8100.00 (and it was in only average condition at best) a few months ago started a frenzy of people saying that this was the new going rate for an average AFM. Suddenly people with AFM's started listing them for sale so they could try to cash in on this new higher price. With that many AFM sales it isn't that surprising to me that ones listed now don't sell as fast.
I really have mixed feelings on what the true value of a decent AFM is. I mean if MM is a $11-12K pin (note I said "if") then it makes sense to me that in comparison, AFM would be an $8k pin. On the other hand, the price on this title seems to have gone up more and faster than any other pin that I know of. A 50% increase in a matter of 6 months seems out of whack. Then again, this whole hobby seems to be out of whack lately! 
Quoted from RobT:It seems to me that AFM took a huge leap in value seemingly overnight. Call me crazy, but the way that I see it is that the thread that was started here about the AFM that was listed on ebay that sold for $8100.00 (and it was in only average condition at best) a few months ago started a frenzy of people saying that this was the new going rate for an average AFM. Suddenly people with AFM's started listing them for sale so they could try to cash in on this new higher price. With that many AFM sales it isn't that surprising to me that ones listed now don't sell as fast.
I really have mixed feelings on what the true value of a decent AFM is. I mean if MM is a $11-12K pin (note I said "if") then it makes sense to me that in comparison, AFM would be an $8k pin. On the other hand, the price on this title seems to have gone up more and faster than any other pin that I know of. A 50% increase in a matter of 6 months seems out of whack. Then again, this whole hobby seems to be out of whack lately!
Yep, all this because one idiot overpayed. Sad but true.
Quoted from RobT:It seems to me that AFM took a huge leap in value seemingly overnight. Call me crazy, but the way that I see it is that the thread that was started here about the AFM that was listed on ebay that sold for $8100.00 (and it was in only average condition at best) a few months ago started a frenzy of people saying that this was the new going rate for an average AFM. Suddenly people with AFM's started listing them for sale so they could try to cash in on this new higher price. With that many AFM sales it isn't that surprising to me that ones listed now don't sell as fast.
I really have mixed feelings on what the true value of a decent AFM is. I mean if MM is a $11-12K pin (note I said "if") then it makes sense to me that in comparison, AFM would be an $8k pin. On the other hand, the price on this title seems to have gone up more and faster than any other pin that I know of. A 50% increase in a matter of 6 months seems out of whack. Then again, this whole hobby seems to be out of whack lately! [
I disagree with you about this. Maybe 3 years ago you could get an AFM for $4k but for the last 2 years they have been in the $6k range and slowly creeping up to when they hit the $8k+. You want to talk about pins that have skyrocketed in price look at TS (6 months ago was $1500 now $3k+) or TOTAN (was $4k now $7k+) or CV (right up there with AFM) I had a chance 6 months ago to get a CV for around $4k now try to find one for under $7k. If anything AFM took the longest to make the jump up in price.
Quoted from spfxted:HOW many idiots???
i recall four on ebay crossing the $8K threshold BUT... one of them was a relist. It was that same guy out in california that always has to relist stuff after they are bid on and "won". I am not going to name names as I cannot prove anything other than the fact that he has alot of non-paying bidders.
Maybe the combo LE not the Autobot ed. In fact I haven't seen any Autobot ones for sale. I did see a couple of Decepticon's for sale around $5200 to $5500 huo. I got it from Troy North @ Topscoregamerooms and had to drive an hour and 20 min to his place to pick it up.
Quoted from britrex1:Maybe the combo LE not the Autobot ed. In fact I haven't seen any Autobot ones for sale. I did see a couple of Decepticon's for sale around $5200 to $5500 huo. I got it from Troy North @ Topscoregamerooms and had to drive an hour and 20 min to his place to pick it up.
Sorry, but I know of a fellow Pinsider who just purchased a NIB TF Decepticon for $5000.00 from a well known distributor. Yes, $5000.00 even.
Its not worse than Avatar and lots of folks like me love it. I hope they do the progression thing, not for me as I don't care but because I think it will change the masses who seem to.
But you are stuck with it unless you will take the loss.
Some distributor made a hell of a deal. But just like ebay high prices one off sell outs don't discount the entire value either. I will bet 5kish is right though.
Quoted from britrex1:Well that's why I said I probably wouldn't be able to sell mine
I'd say that the timing for selling TF LE is terrible right now. I'd hang on to it for now, as I would expect the prices to eventually come back up a bit. We've seen the same thing happen with Avatar LE to an extent.
No it's not a worse game but considering Avatar LE's were bashed pretty bad and lost value very quickly distributors at least didn't have to sell them at blow out prices. IMHO that's a FAIL and it could've been avoided if they would have just fixed the code instead of just giving up.
Quoted from britrex1:I wonder how George Gomez feels about his machine failing even worse than Avatar LE did
Do you think he cares? Just wondering, as Iv never heard of him commenting on the success of specific Stern games.
Quoted from DrStarkweather:Do you think he cares? Just wondering, as Iv never heard of him commenting on the success of specific Stern games.
I don't know if he cares maybe he's not the kind of person that takes pride in his work that's why I said "I wonder"
Quoted from spfxted:There are only so many people wanting or able to spend $8-10K on an AFM. When they all have one, the price will come down. AND there are a few real interesting NEW machines coming out at the $5-7.5K range.
Quoted from RobT:It seems to me that AFM took a huge leap in value seemingly overnight. Call me crazy, but the way that I see it is that the thread that was started here about the AFM that was listed on ebay that sold for $8100.00 (and it was in only average condition at best) a few months ago started a frenzy of people saying that this was the new going rate for an average AFM. Suddenly people with AFM's started listing them for sale so they could try to cash in on this new higher price. With that many AFM sales it isn't that surprising to me that ones listed now don't sell as fast.
I think these views are pretty much right on. Still though, I could kick myself for passing on a high end blinged out AFM back in 08 for 4k . . . jeez. I personally feel the high end (true CQ) ones with all the bling are worth the same as the Stern LE's . . . even long term unless the LCD's blow out the DMD's, which I think is possible but not likely.
Quoted from britrex1:I don't know if he cares maybe he's not the kind of person that takes pride in his work that's why I said "I wonder"
Id be interested to find out. I know Lyman cares more about his games than Lonnie does for instance (rumor and speculation but I dont doubt it).
Quoted from britrex1:I disagree with you about this. Maybe 3 years ago you could get an AFM for $4k but for the last 2 years they have been in the $6k range
I believe that historical reference is a little high Britrex1:
Got my AFM in Nov., '10 for $4650 (unfaded cabinet with an average PF).
Ah...the good old days.
I would agree that AFM did take a pretty substantial leap in price over the past 6 months. Still, I think the writing was on the wall. It had been at around $3500 for the longest time and then started creeping up to the 4-5k range about a year or so ago. The jump from 5k to 7k+ was the most dramatic increase.
Quoted from britrex1:Pin has been sold Thanks!
Just out of curiosity, are you willing to share what the sales price was with the group? Seems like the price of an AFM is tough to gauge these days.
Quoted from spfxted:Great! What are you replacing it with?
Probably nothing. In fact I just sold my TF LE tonight also. All I have left is my TOTAN
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