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(Topic ID: 107368)

AFM playfield on eBay - repro or OEM?


By yonkiman

6 years ago



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#1 6 years ago

ebay.com link » Bally Attack From Mars Playfield New

Poster doesn't seem to know - what should I have him look at/photograph to determine its parentage?

Post edited by yonkiman: Trying to make ebay link work

#2 6 years ago

Link didn't work for me, but if it is item 171514461791 I'd say it looks like OEM. It has the test insert installed in the lower left under the apron, repros don't. It also doesn't have the missing silkscreen under the Tractor Beam insert that first run Mirco playfields had.

#3 6 years ago

Yeah, if that's the one, Mirco also puts the hologram sticker on them indicating it's a licensed replacement part. Don't see it on there.

#4 6 years ago

Is that really worth $1,000?

#5 6 years ago
Quoted from kaneda:

Is that really worth $1,000?

Not if the bidding so far is any indicator... How much do you guys think it's worth?

#6 6 years ago

I think I remember an OEM AFM playfield hitting $1,200 a while ago, so this is in the neighborhood if it is indeed an OEM, and the milky clearcoat over the inserts makes it look OEM to me. The Mirco repros have crystal clear clearcoat over the inserts. If someone is doing a high end restore and absolutely will not settle for anything less than a perfect OEM playfield, they may be game.

#7 6 years ago

It depends. Some people gotta have NOS over repro. A grand is probably not far off.

#8 6 years ago

Can't say for sure, but that may be NOS. I say that because there are no dimples on either side. The dimpling was done by Williams once they got the playfields from the manufacturer.

But keep in mind, NOS does not mean perfect. On the contrary, many playfields like this were pulled from the production run because of various issues. In other words, they weren't good enough to go into a game. It also appears to have some surface scratches from storage, for what that's worth.

#9 6 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

But keep in mind, NOS does not mean perfect. On the contrary, many playfields like this were pulled from the production run because of various issues. In other words, they weren't good enough to go into a game. It also appears to have some surface scratches from storage, for what that's worth.

Indeed. On top of whatever it costs to buy this, I assume someone will then send it off to a resto guy for touch-up and clearcoating, so even more money gets sunk into it.

#10 6 years ago

The font used on the "rule the universe" insert differs between OEM and repro.

Bit of a blurry pic and I am looking at it via phone but it looks to be OEM.

#11 6 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

he milky clearcoat over the inserts makes it look OEM to me.

The clear isn't milky, the white/clear inserts themselves are frosted on OEM playfields. Mirco's clear inserts are more transparent.

#12 6 years ago
Quoted from stangbat:

The clear isn't milky, the white/clear inserts themselves are frosted on OEM playfields. Mirco's clear inserts are more transparent.

The inserts all got drum sanded back in the day before art was applied to the playfield. This would remove any frosted finish on the insert, unless you consider the sanded finish of the insert the frosted finish. In my experience with restoring an OEM AFM playfield, the art was missing on two (2) inserts. I thought the inserts would be good to go as long as I reproduced the art directly on the drum sanded finish, which I did. However, when applying clear over them, they looked crystal clear and they didn't match the rest of the OEM inserts with their "milky" look. I then had to sand/strip my clear and mix up some light grey with the clear and I then had to spot clear this milky light grey/clear mixture over the repaired inserts to get the matching OEM milky clear look on the repaired inserts so they'd match the OEM inserts.

Reading RGP years ago, some people suggested that this milky layer was not part of the Diamondplate clear coating but was some type of a "sanding sealer", applied before the Diamondplate, after the drum sanding operation.

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