That is true also.... another reason to keep mine lol... Im guessing new ones are decals?

Based on your post, I have decided not to purchase an AFMr from GRG.

Lol. One down, 999 to go

One thing I've wondered about with MMr and now AFMr is whether there will be long-term technical support and replacement parts for any of the newer tech they put in the games. Do they have a proprietary board set or parts? I admittedly haven't researched much about these games...

Don't think any pins manufactured now are anything other than stickers/decals.

Too expensive to screen print.

That's why I shake my head when people take a screened cabinet with a bit of fade and put stickers on it that wrinkle and bubble in no time!

Decals don't wrinkle if you install the stern style metal leg protectors before the legs go on.

The mechs are all pretty much identical and easily serviced but the PCBs and light PCBs and everything else is totally unique

pretty sure tech support packages were offered in the price differences, had a 3 month warranty, 6 month etc.

Decals don't wrinkle and bubble in no time. Just because scabs did a shit job with Monster Bash or something doesn't mean it's really a problem.

The market will tell. I'd consider buying an old AFM for the right price, but if it's even remotely close the price of a new one I'd pass. Good for the originalists, I get it, but I'm not one.

A true originalist would exclude decals as game is no longer original.....

I'm looking forward to getting an AFM or remake. I love the the market is going to shake out a bit before I'm ready to buy. Perfect. Next do Tron!

Buyers new to the hobby or those who finally have a chance to own an afm aren't going to listen to screams of "mine is an original so give me 2k more!"

The market for originals took a hit by losing the buyers who had to save monthly or wait for a big tax return to afford it's pricetag.

Sellers of original afms hoping to get north of 8k likely lost a percentage of the market. The market that remains would be other collectors who tell themselves an original is better and also have those funds on hand.

Don't the remakes come with very simple electronics compared to the 90's machines, like just one small board? Or maybe I'm mistaken and thinking of recent Sterns. But if they do have one simple board then personally I'll order a spare board if I buy an MMr that way in case there is an issue, just swap the board and done.

Weren't beat to hell ones selling for $5k? Those should take a hit IMO. If any still exist.

I have had an AFM for quite awhile now, it really good shape... but there is something really great about seeing this machine get made... still my favorite after all these year!

should be interesting to see how the market goes, I would think that used one's take a bit of hit.... but, if Pinball keeps growing like it has, I can also see the originals being worth more at some point... who know ?

All I can tell you is that seeing these new shiny AFMs finally convinced me to go give mine a good cleaning, put in some LEDs and hooked up the Polk sub that has been sitting there in the box. LEDs look really good, I went with Comet sunlight 2835 Twin SMD bulbs in the GI. really brightens the game up.... there still a little cool thought... maybe should have went with the warmer color. The polk sub really rocks. back to the story here....

Value who knows... but the more people enjoying AFM the better.

$2500, but I'll give you 3k each because I'm rich MUAHAHAHA. I don't think the hit will be that bad, who cares anyway it's a great game not an investment. Play more pinball!

I'm in for a NIB Attack From Mars LE, who woulda ever thought you could say that. The guys making these remakes happen are amazing!

Now that coin mechs are included in AFMr... they should be the same in value.

Question: Do we know when AFMr will ship?

May.

Heard a nice AFM at the texas show went for $6K this weekend...Originally had it posted at $7K+ I think...Not sure if anyone here saw that.

Look out below

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/afm-or-sm

Very nice AFM went for $3800

This was 7 years ago before Tron, ACDC etc...

Well if Le sales are any indication they are almost gone. I talked to several venders at TPF and many are sold out. All of the LEs will be gone this week. Official pricing dropped on Friday and almost 1000 Les sold by end of TPF. Apparently nobody wants the remakes

thats $4500 in 2017 dollars...Still $1500 lower than todays numbers though...Not sure how far off $6K is from AFM's high water mark. I'm not a huge fan of the pin so havent really paid attention over the years.

I happen to think the vast majority of serious pinheads (roughly 90%) are more into getting lots of game play with machines they enjoy.....rather than the originality thing. There is no question the players condition originals experienced a price drop. Probably not all that much. So what. Owners of all AFM's should consider themselves fortunate, as they possess a highly desirable pin that produces hours of enjoyment.

Originality never meant anything up to the MMr announcement because people were restoring their games back with new ramps, new playfields, new cab decals, etc and then selling them for top dollar. So now that there are remakes that are built from those same parts, it's really hard to argue that a restored original should be worth a ton when it's not really that much more original other than the electrical/board set. A HUO original then yes, I could see a big premium on that, but restored original isn't much different than an AFMr. I'd take an AFMr in a heartbeat over an original if the original was faded or had any playfield wear. If they were both at like new condition, I'd still take the original though because of board set familiarity. I'm guessing a lot people are in that same boat, so it seems like it would be hard to keep the AFM price on the faded/worn ones anywhere close to $6500.

I see their eBay ads for parts, don't they sell like a 10-pack of incandescent bulbs for $15? Saw something like that. I think I've ordered something from them before (not really sure) but most of their stuff seems overpriced. Oh well. Your money will go to another distributor and I guess you can say it's "their loss", even if they find another buyer. One less sold for them regardless.