Lol are people really still expecting this to happen???

Well put TB, it's crazy!!!!!

For comparison...

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if you own kiss why in the world buy this??

Not dismissing anything. Just saying that Stern is taking care of customers and the flaws are quite overblown and solved very easily with a protector. It is still a great game. Grandstand much?

I guess it's time for an Aerosmith Who's
In thread. I'm in.

I simply communicated with them. I am sure that yours is coming shortly. I had been waiting a long time for sure. They do give two shits.

I'd say Color DMD is a must for any pin (IMO) which adds $400 to the price.

I don't want to get into what a LCD costs vs a DMD but the value is worth $400 in my opinion

So even if you could have got IM for $4000 plus Color DMD $400

Anyway hate the upper PF and think if any, the pro is the way to go.

I'm not buying anyway because the code (idk) might not be by LS who is the only guy at Stern that is a genius. The other guys may be good to meh so I'm not interested in anything by those guys.

I like Aerosmith the way I like most classic rock but not overly much.

I think this will sell like Kiss and be ok selling not great and Stern will abandon ship on the code.

NIN would be way better for me musically.

Who is your distributor? I was told that Stern is sending out a box with packing and you then send out your old populated playfield back to Stern factory and then they do a swap and send back to you. I actually thought that was admirable because trying to do a playfield swap is a difficult task, especially without a rotisserie. I have never had problems getting stuff done with Stern, maybe we can help?

That is exactly how is works. Stern sends an empty box, you send the playfield back, they send a replacement populated playfield. With Spike there are 3 connectors to unplug. Just need one other person to help you lift it out of the cabinet. Once the process starts it is pretty quick.

That's awesome! Wish they had a quick fix for Kiss Code though!

Is it confirmed that Lonnie is the one who did the code for Aerosmith?

At the end of the day, it comes down to this: does it have good rules?

With Lonnie at the helm, I have a horrible feeling this game will be a dud. I hope I'm wrong b/c I wanted to get this title, but there's not a single Lonnie game that I like in terms of rules. He's totally cut and paste (shoot this shot a million times, then shoot again...yawn).

I do have KISS and I'm probably going to wait for Star Wars or something else. The comparison to KISS is valid but I'm sure it plays differently as it is not exact. For example, I would have to say that the scoop is oddly placed in front of the bumper area. If the scoop is used to start modes it could be a real challenge hitting that shot from either flipper. It is a relatively easy shot on KISS from the left flip and difficult from the right. The AS placement makes it more difficult from either side.

Didn't Lonnie do Iron Man?

Take legs off and set the game on the floor. Much easier to get play field out by yourself

Purple scared stiff cabinet with Aerosmith Graphics. Hmm..

What color is the pro, premium and le?

I've seen some posts/listings where a pro is purple and some where it is blue.

My distro is Trent @ Tilt

That process is what I was told would happen, but I keep getting the run around and "I don't knows" from everyone. Somehow Kermit is the only guy here to get a GBLE playfield replacement.

Kermit,

Please post a pic of your GBLE replacement playfield date stamp. Thanks

I always find it Interesting that people seem to think similar playfield layouts are an issue. There are only so many ways to lay out a machine. Look at spooky. Zombie is a very different layout and people dislike it because it plays so different.

That's not the conversation here.

I for one would own one of these at some point because I collect music themed pins. If you like both bands then I can understand wanting both.

To each their own. I just hope they sell a lot of them(after a price drop) so they keep making more machines.

Dark blue for the LE, purple for the Premium and light blue for the Pro
http://www.pinballnews.com/games/aerosmith/

I don't want to derail the Aerosmith thread any more than we have, so I'll post photos in the Ghostbusters Issue thread.

Lonnie/Lyman combo.

I pointed out in another thread IM and Met pro have similar layouts

Same 2 top roll over lane, same post blocker, same pops, same ramp entrance (maybe not exactly but same-ish) they have features in same place grave/war machine snake/whiplash. Both have a middle bash figure.

But the games have enough diffences to make them totally different.

Yeah, unless it's LITERALLY the same like FGY/Shrek, it's completely irrelevant to worry about layouts being similar. All the little differences change how the ball is going to react and where it's going to go, code changes what you want to shoot for. When Iron Man came out, everyone shunned it and said it was just Austin Powers....see how that turned out? Learn from the past.

IM and Met both had Lyman.....

AS has Lonnie.

So you will be able to participate in two where's the code threads.

I don't like Rob Zombie because when I played my first game (4-player with 3 guys who already played it) at Pintastic, one of the players achieved multiball and hit the ramp with the left flipper over 50 times. That's not a joke. He's a top ranked player and hit that center ramp 50 F'n times while having a cradle going on the right flipper.

I never was in love with RZ's PF art, but will always applaud non-standard designs... but they also need to be GOOD designs. Love the Fast Lap w/ outlane crossover on Full Throttle, love the layouts of games like Black Rose, Family Guy, LOTR, and TWD. But watching someone hit 50 jackpots in a row because there's an open 4-lane freeway in the middle of the playfield is why I didn't like RZ.

I was just talking about people comparing designs and dismissing them as "the same game".

Get ya.

I think many though are worried that AS could be the next KISS in terms of code.

Shame there is only one Lyman !

Well, that is definitely looking likely. Each song will probably have a different series of colored shots to aim for, some different multiballs, super this, super that, nice light shows. Lyman really took "non-story" themes of Metallica and ACDC and really went crazy creative with them. Aerosmith will most likely be fun, but not blow anyone away looking creative nuance. For me, Kiss's shitty toys ruined the game for me ...so if this is Kiss with better toys, it's already more appealing to play.

Gotta admit this looks awesome!

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My guess, based on the delayed launch (and extra development time) and the fact it's Lonnie on code, is this is WYSIWYG.

Play it. Like it or not. Buy it or don't. As it should be.

But don't buy hoping for future code/gameplay improvements. I think you'll be disappointed.

I'm surprised the area where the ball rests before being kicked into the air is just wood. To reliably have the ball landing in the crate, both the kicker and the ball location would have to be mostly the same each time.

Problem with wood is that its difficult to reliably machine and it wears. Would be next to impossible to ensure the ball will sit in the same location on every game. And as the hole wears, the ball will also sit differently meaning constant re-adjustment will be needed.

Can't you buy one as a replacement part? At least you'd have it then.

Have the LE's sold out yet?

Have you sent in your video application to buy one yet?

That's really what I'm struggling with right now.

And if you DON'T own Kiss, because you never liked it, why would you buy this either?

Shhhhhhhhh don't give it away.

I'm hoping some KISS owners will sell their premiums later this year to make room for Aerosmith. Then I can buy one because I inexplicably really like the game KISS despite being neutral on the band.

Yes.

I do like the looks of this pin. I use to own the Stern IJ and I really loved the opening ark. (okay, that was about the only thing I liked about that pin). Looks pretty sweet though.

Would have been cool if Stern could have worked the elevator toy to go up and down after capturing a ball for Love Elevator, like Spooky did on their AMH elevator.

It's countersunk and therefore can't be screen printed. Someone will make a decal for it though.

Rob

Haha that's where I'm at. It wasn't the worst thing ever, but wasn't a huge design fan of it.

I think the main point going on is talk of pre-ordering. Since most of us haven't played it, & looking 90% like a game that came out 18-19 months ago is a little too soon to slap down more pre-order $$ than was asked at the time.

May come out and be totally kick ass and feel nothing like Kiss and I'll pick it up. We shall see.

OK so you say that a top ranked player hit the shot 50 times in a row...How many times did you hit the shot in a row?

Agree. Just because they look the same doesn't convert to being the same. However, from the recent live play video of b66 it looks like it's going to be the opposite of AP and IM. It looks worse than bdk. Boring as batshit would be putting it kindly.

I get so tired of non US residents crying about the unfavorable exchange rate. What were you all doing in 2009 and 2010 when the US dollar tanked and US housing was a complete train wreck??? Seriously, this is the way the economic world works. There are ups and downs and when the US was in the tank 7 years ago you should have been buying US dollars, US real estate, US stocks or even pinball machines. You could have capitalized on the weak US dollar at the time and you would be reaping the rewards today.

Instead we get post after post after post of people crying "I can't get my big boy toy as cheap as you Americans can get your big boy toy".

Jeeze, gimme a break
QSS

Seems to be the case at the moment. Once it's peppered with custom callouts and show voice clips and more complete code, that could change. Blows my mind that people had to fill out an application and pay $15k to be a beta tester.

"men at works"......lol