You never even made it to Medley Tour Multiball and you downvote my opinion on the 2 codes lol, really?

Pretty.much everything PW said and he definitely has some good points about the new code also but i still had more fun on the old code. I would recommend that the person asking to play the game on the old code for awhile and have some fun and try to make it to Medley Tour Multiball, then update the code and see which one he.likes better.

Thanks. And yeah, in addition to being able to resume songs, I like the mode consistency as well. In the previous rules perhaps as the owner of the game I could learn the particulars of each song, but it certainly didn't make it easy or friendly for pinball friends coming by occasionally.

I was just going to suggest to Who-Dey, there are tons of options in the adjustments menu - surely if the game is too difficult now it can be brought back to the previous level of difficulty by changing some settings.

Yup that is true and i would like to do just that if i could figure out for sure what to do. Ive just been so busy lately that i haven't had time to look into it and my brain is too tired to think about it at the moment.

Nope. They took “final call” orders for the 3 rock music pins in December, and they’re done.

Unless they vault them down the road.

PS new code is way better.

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And this is why I think the 'middle' code was the worst of the bunch. It was just too easy to get to Medley, and then once you get there, it was too easy to complete to get to Final Tour. IMHO an 'average' player shouldn't be getting to the wizard mode on default settings on any machine 'on a pretty regular basis'.

The game is much more balanced now, although I think it does still need some adjustments making to the rules on Final Tour - just hitting any 24 shots to light super jackpot at scoop is lazy and uninspired code. It also only takes about 90 seconds to hit all the shots then it's over. What an anti-climax.
I'd have it that you need to hit each major shot (city) once to light a continent jackpot at the scoop, worth the sum of the shots hit, once the continent jackpot is hit all shots relight and you move on to the next continent with all major shots worth double, then treble, etc. Once all continents have been collected a world jackpot is lit for collection.
3 continents would be the default (Asia, Europe, North America) but could be increased up to make it harder/more valuable if desired.

The average player was not getting to Medley Tour Multiball on a regular basis under the old code, not even close to getting it on a regular basis. It was always a adrenaline rush though as you were approaching it but you would almost always fail. Its also not "The wizard mode", its a mini wizard mode.

My point is though is that adrenaline rush is now gone for most players because of the increased difficulty. The mini wizard modes are usually meant to be obtainable once in awhile for average players and the main wizard mode you will have to be a very good player or have the game of your life to get to it.

Me too. Not to mention when you actually get the Medley MB, it's not a big disappointment. MMB old code was terrible.

I realize this game has only been in my house for a few weeks, but I’ve really taken a shine to it. Normally my “honeymoon phase” with a new game lasts less than a week. But I just keep playing this thing. I can’t really put my finger on why, with the simple exception that I really enjoy the game. I like the shots, the rules, the music. Really all of it. Another unexpected winner of a game.

PS: I updated to 1.07. I figured that’s the version Stern wanted me to play, so I’ll play it.

Its the shots Dave. The shots are somewhat difficult to hit but once you get a feel for it they are smooth as butter and very satisfying.

I honestly don't understand the hate for this game. It's simple fun. The latest code seems to be a good balance. I don't know the numbers, but the older code was too difficult, previous code before this was too easy. This seems well balanced. I wonder if this will be a low production game like Iron Man that people take awhile to warm up to. My only gripe is the Jacky voice.

I just thought of something crazy while typing this. I played in an Aerosmith tribute band for awhile. I bet I could talk the singer into doing some voice overs to replace the Jacky voice. I'm sure it wouldn't be free, and I've had a few drinks, but it sounds like a great idea right now. Can someone with some Pinball Browser experience chime in to how much work this would be? I have the recording equipment, more than would be necessary for simple voice overs.

I don’t think there is any?

Maybe indifference. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying “I HATE THIS GAME!!”

Except in a tournament when the magnet hoofs the ball SDTM lol

I think when people get some time on the game, they like it.

Maybe it suffered from “same as KISS” when it came out - and Stern can only blame themselves for that.

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I agree with everything you said (after the first line)

In other threads, and just general watercooler talks at local leagues and tournaments, there are quite a few people that just dont like AS at all. I always try to explain that its a fun game with the 'just one more' fun factor. They dont care to hear it.

Either way, I love mine, and I dont plan on letting it go too fast.

I currently own Roller Coaster Tycoon, and I let the Troll live... so Jacky could gargle with draino and I'd let him get away with it.

The newest SPIKE games are a pain in the butt (in my opinion). I don't like doing them. Massive files, different ways to read them, loading and copying SD cards, direct updates because they are so big. On SAM games updates are a joy. On SPIKE, they are horrible. And NONE of that is because of Pinball Browser (awesome software). It is the way Stern designed SPIKE software that gets in the way. On Aerosmith, I wasn't able to change a song in the update, I had to do it directly on the SD card by copying it to my computer (huge), modifying the image there, and then writing out a whole new card. Stuff that takes a couple of minutes on SAM took an hour to do on SPIKE. F that nonsense. I wouldn't do a project like that.

To those of you on the new code (1.7); has anyone experience the premature release of the balls from the Toy Box (insert witty joke here). I find it happening more on Sweet Emotion, but if you have 3 - 4 balls in the box (holding them for 6), before the song ends the box will just dump the balls at random. Not on every song, but most noticeable on SE.

Check the opto connections underneath the playfield. A lot of people have had this happen and it progressively gets worse.

Mine happened out of nowhere but pushing thr connectors back on tightly fixed it

Awesome, thank you! I'll give it a shot.

just recently on my Aerosmith Pro during multi-ball it has giving me an extra ball or two as the balls drained and the light was blinking between the flippers. Most of the time if 2 drain or so it will return the correct amount. Sometimes it will return too many. Any thought as to this problem?

I don't see "that" as a problem. I'd consider it a "bonus" ... like going through a drive-thru and finding out they gave you an extra order of french fries.

Hey AS owners:

I have a AS Pro and really enjoy the music when you light it up. With a sub and better speakers in the backbox, it's a serious adrenaline rush when you manage to to hit the right targets.

So my question is...is a AC/DC Prem a good compliment to Aerosmith? AC/DC is a great band, but is it implemented as well as AS?

Prefer to hear from owners of both, but not necessary.

If not, what would be a high energy pin to compliment AS?

Thanks!

AC DC Premium is a great pinball machine, one of the best games ever probably. Iron Maiden is another great Pinball machine and Metallica too!

Thanks Who-Dey,

Those are all on my short list, but not necessarily the wifey's short list. Just curious if a slightly older pin like AC/DC can hold it's own with the newer pins like you mentioned. I admit, I'm biased towards AC/DC since I know the music, but if it's not on the same level as AS, I'd likely pass.

I own both and still prefer ACDC over AS as it gives me a better adrenaline rush, but they are both awesome pins.

MB, AC/DC is better than Aerosmith in my opinion but you need to get the Premium model. The game is loaded with features and if you like AC DC you will go nuts over it. Its amazing seriously.

Yep, it would be a Prem!

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Maybe you are getting an add a ball?

No I was watching for thst.

Aerosmith has a couple things that could cause what seems like odd behavior. First (and this bugs me), when extra ball is lit Jacky says “shoot the scoop to add a ball”. When it isn’t an add a ball, it’s an extra ball. Second, the actual add a ball is from the mystery. And finally (and this I like), there are short ball savers for some shots. In a multi ball these can feel a bit random, but they aren’t. When draining other balls out of a multi ball, a scoop shot with the last ball may bring them and one more back to the player. The VIP pass in the right outlane can bring back two balls if it’s triggered and timed with a second drain.

So with all that, I’m thinking either the add a ball at the scoop, or the ball saver out of the elevator, or the ball saver off the ball lock hitting Jacky in the face. It might feel random, but there was a cause, and it doesn’t sound like a problem in your game. Just play another hundred games and you will probably spot what triggered it. Also, you can make it less likely by going into the settings and shutting off the short ballsavers from the elevator and other shots.

Acdc is a much tougher game, faster and less forgiving for bad shots. Both are great games

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Totally different machines! I have a Luci and AS Pro. Equal play in a collection of 10.

That's what we say about our Houdini sitting next to AS. Talk about polar opposites.

That would usually show differently. Like two balls kicked into the shooter lane, or more random. But you are saying... oh, hang on... possibly switches in the trough. Like it didn’t know the middle ones in the trough were drained until they had more balls behind them. Some AC/DCs had that issue. So, the way it could be happening is the roller micro switches may be too high, and the ball gets hooked on them if it’s going slow enough. I’d run a test by ejecting all the balls, then into switch test and “lightly” put them in the trough. See if you can cause a ball there to not be sensed. If so, adjust as needed.

I LOVE my Aerosmith Pro and I'm already past the honeymoon stage on it. Just a blast to play and I dare say the better of the bunch of music pins I own (Kiss, ACDC Luci and MET). MET beats it out on interactive toys (which I love), but the Toybox and the excellent dmd animations on Aerosmith makes it a tight race. I would rather have the cartoon animations of Iron Maiden, MET and Aerosmith than movie clips and concert film any day of the week.

I took 10 seconds off the "easier" songs like Rats, Walk This Way, Back In The Saddle. This makes it a little easier to get the Tour multiball. Usually I start with "Walk This Way" to light Super Ramps and save multiball for the harder songs like Emotion.

Yes im the lucky owner of the last AS pro coming to Melbourne
Will be a ripper game next to my ACDC premium
Played at Coolangatta Timezone and was an instant decision to order - just scraped it in!
Only 60 approx AS came to Australia so will definitely hold its value if not increase.

I have the 1.07 code on LE and I have noticed this issue and had planned on possibly mentioning it here, but seeing this post is forcing my hand.

I know it's a little thing, but it drives me bonkers. I hope it can get patched. I LOVE this game otherwise.

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Just joined the Aerosmith family. Got a nice, HUO Pro from a nice collector in PA. Well placed Mylar , and a couple of thoughtful mods.

My mother passed away in February and went to school with some members of Aerosmith (she grew up in Ma and I believe went to Malden High.) She was only 61. Anyways, I thought reconnecting with the band and their music through pinball would be a nice way to keep her and her love of music around.

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Sorry for your loss my friend

Appreciated!

If anyone in the New York / New England area has an Aerosmith Pro with a scratched up cabinet, shoot me a PM. I acquired a brand new lower cabinet in a bulk purchase that I do not need, and will trade for some cool arcade/pinball stuff...

Sorry to hear about your mother. Aerosmith is one of the most overlooked and under rated pinball machines there is. This game is soooo much fun!

and the prices dropped to the point i was like "ignore this and you'll regret it". saw some in the low 4s as of late.

I only have a few pins but AS is the one I start up first and play the most. Once you dial the play times for the various songs in (don't rely on the factory settings) it's great fun. It has a nice, wide open playfield and simple, color coded rules. My GB is a very good pin overall but the upper playfield is a bit crowded - I guess the mfg's try to give you more but I like a clean playfield - but that's just me. If you are an Aerosmith fan this pin is a real keeper.

Just picked my fist pin up this week - AS Pro. Love it so far. Great art and light shows!

I just got a new in box Aerosmith Pro. It has been fun, but there are a couple times where I have been playing where all of the sudden the play field goes dead, the screen freezes and nothing happens. I have to turn off the machine and turn it back on. Anybody have any ideas? Mine was made 2/2018. It happened on version 1.03 and then I updated today to 1.07 and it happened again. Thanks for the help.

Look up the Stern Service Bulletins on AS and take a look to see if the fixes have been made. If not, order them. It's a necessity and what you described are the symptoms.

Call 1-800-kickers and talk to Chaz or David.

Yep, I posted about this same things about 3 months ago.