Nothing wrong with that at all, its a really fun game. I think TWD I'd rumored to be coming to an end also, have you ever played one? That's probably the best title you can buy right now in my opinion. Lots of great choices out there right now.

Ok, backglass isn't made traditionally, in that it is not silk screened.

That said, it is mirrored and it is way better than a standard translite.

Glasses give more depth.

Really, every LE should have mirrored backglasses as it is one of the few extras that makes a difference.

Can't believe SWLE didn't get one - the translite just looks flat.

The purple trim on the LE is also a nice extra.

Is it worth it?

It never usually is in money terms, especially as AS pro is real nice and has a touch more flow as the ramp on the LE is super steep, which means unless shot is perfect, a fair few get rejected.

That AS Prem/LE ramp shot can be fixed so most shots make it. It shipped with a design flaw that causes rejects because the ball can hit a gap on the right when it peaks. There's a fix out there and it works. Look it up.

Premium vs LE is just aesthetics - powder coated armour, real backglass and Borg signature is pretty much it. The backglass looks gorgeous, but definitely not worth the extra $$. If money is no object and you just want the nicest version of the game, go LE.

Otherwise Premium can be upgraded with the official Stern side rails (which look cool), and maybe the topper (which is also very cool), for less than the LE.

Sorry all if this has been covered. I did a search but came up with nothing.

Issue: When ball is launched into the Toy Box, the ball doesn't get registered. Have to wait for the pin to go into search mode, then it dumps it. Any suggestions? I'm assuming that there are opto's inside the toy box. Went into switch test, wiggled my finger in the box (no pun intended) and nothing registered.

Also, this struck me as odd. I had the coin door opened, let the ball come out of the toy box and power was still going to the slings, the bumpers etc. This normal?

There are two wire connectors under the toy box make sure they are seated well. Mine came loose and had the same thing happen.

No more power cutoff switch on the door so power is normal.

Thanks Black_Knight wiggled one of the wires going to the connector came right off. Now the fun part....how the f**k to I access that to get it plugged back in. Took the bottom part of the toy box off, but still blocked with the case of the toy box itself.

I just used some long nosed pliers.

It takes a try or two but you don’t need to take anything apart.

Joined the club this week!

Solid fun game for some Holiday Joy!

You are going to love AS Art. It's a keeper brother!! Let us know if you get Medley Tour Multiball. I've got it a couple times but never the main wizard mode yet. Love in a elevator multiball is fun also. Great grear game!

Spike system doesn't cut power when you open the coin door.

Stern Pinball has released two recent service bulletins for this machine.

http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/service-bulletins/service-bulletin-189-core-node-stabilization/2235/Stern-SB189.pdf

http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/service-bulletins/service-bulletin-190-core-node-capacitor-service/2236/Stern-SB190.pdf

US customers should contact Stern Pinball, Inc. at 800-542-5377 or [email protected]
All customers outside of the US should contact their distributor.

I also verified that they weren't omitted, KISS and Game of Thrones don't have the boards affected by these SBs.

Really enjoyed playing this last Friday at the Pinball Gallery in Malvern, PA. A fantastic pinball parlor. Also played it at Rock Fantasy in Middletown, NY, another rockin’ establishment that feels fairly anti-establishment.

AS rocks. Very cool game. I enjoy the shots quite a bit. There’s nice flow and very little ball stoppage.

Are the rules deep enough for a 4-5 game collection? I like to keep my games for at least 2 years, and I play the hell out of them. Lonnie rules have let me down a little in the past, but I’ve heard there are some cool little quirks to AS rules.

AS is an awesome game. Surprised us how good the game really is and we have had our machine for 5 months. Be careful if you do not like Lonnie as the programmer. My wife and I like Lonnie s rule sets as they are extremely easy to understand. Lonnie always gets you in to the machine straight away as you can easily work out your objectives. For us Lonnie Rocks! The rule set on AS is plenty deep enough!

Good luck!

Lonnie did a great job on this one! Not deep but FUN for sure. Just got through lighting it up.

Aerosmith... there’s just something special about it. We love ours

But when the heck will we get a skill shot, smart button implementation, outlane sounds, attract mode flipper button sounds, song selection bug resolution & some other ill shit?

I see there’s 2 tech bulletins requiring a spacer & capacitor. Is that related to the game resets & loud ass power supply that sounds like a hovercraft? The tech bulletin itemized symptoms vs fix but IMO it was sorta vague still somehow.

No. The tech bulletins are to stop your node boards from dying. I would say it's extremely important to do both of the SBs.

You can replace the fan and it will be so quiet you can't hear when it comes on. I did that with all the Stern Spike machines that came in because the stock power supply fan is annoyingly (and inexcusably) loud.

Ah, so no fix yet for resets.

Bummer

Here is my working theory FWIW.

Mine seems to NOT reset and/or freeze if I shut it off properly the previous use. For example ball 3 ends I wait until attract mode begins as my indicator that any read/write activities should be complete.

I am not an expert on the electronics in use and am fully prepared for (and may even agree with) someone to tell me I am imagining this but all I can say is my issues are extremely rare the last month or so.

Just as an observation I too have noticed that I tend to have more issues when I get impatient and start a new game without waiting for the conclusion of the end of game reset.

Hopefully they clean that sort of stuff up with the next release, I think just making sure a new game always starts completely fresh (getting rid of any memory leaks) would go a long way to having more stable code.

I have never had a reset on my pro and I often restart a game even before the toy box empties.

Good... Good for F'n you

Gawd!

FWIW never have I had a node board fail

Yet Stern issued 2 tech bulletins for node board failure

So the universe does shit on some folks & not others

Meaning some of us get split cabs, ghosted inserts, dead node boards & spike resets.

Some of us get none of that.

I'm jealous of the latter

I probably had one reset... but a lot more weird things tend to happen, not just resets when I'm doing that... and it's not always. Basically I simply agree that there seems to be a general issue at that point in the game when one game is over and before the machine is back to attract mode. Won't happen every time or even usually and when it does won't always cause a reset. Heck... maybe it is something to do with these bulletins since it sounds like they could make a node temporarily not visible to the host which could cause all kinds of wierdness... but I suspect there is a code issue there as well.

All I know for sure is that I will be ordering the kits if nothing else as a preventative measure.

Have you tested your line voltage?

Maybe have someone meter it while you’re playing your pins and see what happens ....

If it gets too low, I think that could drop the 48v down and it will reset at like 47.8v.

Report back ...

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Lol

I can't imagine why restarting a game before the Toybox empties would ever cause an issue.

I can't imagine how killing zombies in a pinball game about killing zombies can cause a game to reset

Pinball is weird like that

Me either but the posts above were about how they get to attract mode before starting a game in order to avoid a reset.

I start the next game pretty fast and have never had an issue.

However I did replace node 8 board right after I got it, so maybe that’s why mine is stable?

I said i wait for attract mode before shutting it off.

Oh sorry. Classic pinside skimming on my part.

But I never wait for that either .

Huh? What’s funny?

It was a serious question, I was trying to help you.

If you don’t want help, stop bitching about your resets every 5 minutes.

Seems you’d rather continuously moan about them rather than attempting to fix them.

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Ah dont take it personal Rotor I appreciate ya mang

The lol was because you are like the 100th person to offer advice that will not work & at this point all I can do is laugh.

Everyone told me TWD Horde resets were my outlets or my game or blah blah blah. Then Lyman rolls out an update saying "Fixed the horde reset"

Aaaaand with Aerosmith its the same thing. I can meter my peter but it aint gonna fix it because I am not alone with my Aerosmith woes. In real life or on Pinside. I mean just look @ the comments in this thread. Something is wrong. Only TWD & Aerosmith reset in my house. Never TSPP, LOTR or FGY.

So I appreciate you bro, I'm just at my end here with modern Sterns resetting in my house & the 2 locations I frequent.

I fixed one. It was a GB pro, it would reset occasionally then it got worse and worse until it would reset every ball.

New power supply sorted it.

The problem is the front node board has a watchdog that resets at 47.8v (from memory) and fluctuation from the power source will drop the voltage. Hence “check your voltage” Old Pins used to have a adjustable power supply for exactly that reason (you can wire them for 115v or 110v) Spike games do not.

I also believe the power supplies have a pot to adjust the voltage (so the tech told me, I haven’t had the need to open one). If it is set a couple of spots higher, say to 48.2v, the likelyhood of a 47.8v reset is gone.

So you can fix it. Get into it and fix it.

rd

Just got my powder coat back for my pro. Asked others for months for ideas, found this and am stoked, looks almost navy from 8 feet away, then you get your hands on it and wow, you see the blue and purple..fits great

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Holy moly that’s perfect!

that looks sick dude!!!

Looks awesome. I've been really thinking about powder coating my AS pro as well. Did Robert Stone do this work?

Thx, it was done by a guy local to me, he is good and has a nice setup.. it's a really good look imo.. Yeah I know I need some scorecards...

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Use these ones I designed when I first got mine this year. Going after Walk This Way first seems to work out best for me.

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Love the powder coating on the Pro!

another great color done by robert

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That looks fantastic!

Anyone here also have SW, GOTG or BM66? Which do you prefer?

I swear, I enjoy all these games when I play them, but I cannot get enough Aerosmith. I think it’s more fun and has more satisfying shots than the others. I worry that if I bought one, one day I’d wake up and be bored by the code, but maybe not?

I will say that as much as I enjoyed the AS LCD sequences the first few times I played it, it now seems overly simple and kinda dull compared to the other three games I mentioned.

BM66 is a long term keeper because of the code and what’s coming

I really like my AS too though. I wouldn’t want it to be my only pin though

I enjoy BM66, and I get your enthusiasm for Lyman (that the code will be epic, etc.). But there’s plenty to criticize on BM66 beyond the code, and unless you are a diehard Batman fan - or rich or have a large collection - BM66 will have a shelf life. It may be “long term”, but it can never be the “total package” like an LOTR for example. There’s too much “meh” on the BM66 playfield and too much clunk to ever be epic.

Well I sold Lotr. The LCD, theme integration, code and callouts are as good as it gets if you like Batman

Clunky is the last thing I’d say about BM66. If anything shots are too easy. Smooth

TWD and AFMR are a clunkfest and two of my favorite pins

Curious, what's your definition of a "clunkfest"? Don't think of AFM as clunky...