Aerosmith (LE)
Stern, 2017
Aerosmith (Premium)
Stern, 2017
Aerosmith (Pro)
Stern, 2017Quoted from iceman44:WTF, Kpg is back?
Happy you finally took my stock advice and quit getting your ass kicked shorting the market!
When is the next lawsuit against Stern?
Lol be nice to our buddy KPG iceman! He's a member of the Aerosmith club now so he's cool like we are now! 
Quoted from iceman44:When is the next lawsuit against Stern?
God willing, someone will file at the end of the summer.
Quoted from Mike_J:God willing, someone will file at the end of the summer.
I'm sure Kpg bought an AS to start a class action BUT, he picked the wrong pin 
Didn't take that long for Kpg to go against his never buy Stern again mantra
Quoted from iceman44:I'm sure Kpg bought an AS to start a class action BUT, he picked the wrong pin
Didn't take that long for Kpg to go against his never buy Stern again mantra
True.
Admittedly, AS is awesome in both iterations (Pro & LE/Premium).
Quoted from iceman44:I'm sure Kpg bought an AS to start a class action BUT, he picked the wrong pin
Didn't take that long for Kpg to go against his never buy Stern again mantra
Yeah he did say he'd never buy another Stern game didn't he? I forgot about that! That's ok I'll fog I've him for it. Him and Gary must have made up?
KPG and Gary -----> 
Quoted from Mike_J:True.
Admittedly, AS is awesome in both iterations (Pro & LE/Premium).
You should get one Mike!
Quoted from Who-Dey:You should get one Mike!
When I am confident Stern's issues are behind them, I will buy a Pro and Premium.
Quoted from Mike_J:When I am confident Stern's issues are behind them, I will buy a Pro and Premium.
The Aerosmith playfields haven't had any issues that I know of except for oddly enough the one that stern had in their picture lol. The AS playfields for whatever reason are a step above the other games that they have made recently. My playfield on AS looks like a sheet of glass.
Quoted from Who-Dey:The Aerosmith playfields haven't had any issues that I know of except for oddly enough the one that stern had in their picture lol. The AS playfields for whatever reason are a step above the other games that they have made recently. My playfield on AS looks like a sheet of glass.
And I hope it stays that way for you.
I am still not comfortable giving them my 5K-12K. I am going to revisit at the end of the year.
Quoted from kermit24:Has there been one Aerosmith playfield photo posted here with issues?
Only one when the game was first announced and that was actually a pic by stern. It had one ghosted insert, other than that none that I am aware of.
Quoted from iceman44:I'm sure Kpg bought an AS to start a class action BUT, he picked the wrong pin
Didn't take that long for Kpg to go against his never buy Stern again mantra
I actually mentioned on my final update that I'd consider another Stern once they figured out their issues, because they did in fact replace my GBLE playfield after all. Well, after the Illinois state attorney generals office contacted them... and the very next day they said my playfield was ready. Maybe just good timing? Lol.. either way, I played AS and I really wanted one. Tried the NIB lottery and I got a beautiful and perfect machine out of the box.. playfield is immaculate, cabinet solid and no flaws/ and not even a single adjustment needed. Unboxed it, put a sheet of invisiglass in, and fired it up. Excellent game!
Now that Bm66........ how's those code updates doing? How do those $15K SLE owners still feel? lollll.
On a side note... can't wait to get my AFMR LE. Now that's the NIB pin to beat for value and build quality right now.
Hi All,
The level of Stern haters here is unbelievable. As I write this the trolls that live under the bridge claim that 21 units of AS pinballs have ghosting. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! If you want to miss out on a great pinball because of just plain old Stern bashing then of course that is your prerogative. All the AS units I have sold have been perfect. The Pro and LE in my showroom are perfect. In fact in the last year, out of all the Stern pinball's we have sold, we only had one issue.(and it WASN'T ghosting) On that one issue , Stern stood behind it and it was quickly rectified. If you don't like Stern then that's ok. Different strokes for different folks. I had a couple in my store today. The husband fell in love with the AS Pro. They have a newly made "game room". It was a big investment for them. They went to lunch to talk it over. They came back and we will be delivering it on Wednesday. These folks were newbies and are so excited about it. Everyday we are seeing more and more of these casual player who just want to have fun. I sell them a Stern Pro and they come back in six months or a year and buy another. Why? I always ask. They had so much fun and the game was reliable. I have to tell you that pinball is on fire. I sell other brands besides Stern. I can honestly say that the Pinball industry is producing quality games. I can also say that I am certain that their quality is much better than almost any other industry. I am also proud to say that they are made in the good old USA. We stand behind our pinballs with a full one year warranty. This includes replacing any playfield that has any issues including ghosting. If it was a real problem, I would be going out of business instead of celebrating our 75th year. Pinball is fun. Enjoy the greatest hobby on earth 
-J
Not only is my premium not ghosting but after many plays by me and some by the previous owner the playfield is not dimpled like all of my other newer sterns,it has a few little ones but nothing like bm for example and the magnet is also dent free unlike my bm,dimples never bothered me but I Do see a difference,
Love this game
Quoted from c_mario:Are these inserts considered acceptable?
AS Premium 300 plays.
Crazed not ghosting.
Give it time, the'll get worse.
Quoted from PinballAlley:Hi All,
The level of Stern haters here is unbelievable. As I write this the trolls that live under the bridge claim that 21 units of AS pinballs have ghosting. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! If you want to miss out on a great pinball because of just plain old Stern bashing then of course that is your prerogative. All the AS units I have sold have been perfect. The Pro and LE in my showroom are perfect. In fact in the last year, out of all the Stern pinball's we have sold, we only had one issue.(and it WASN'T ghosting) On that one issue , Stern stood behind it and it was quickly rectified. If you don't like Stern then that's ok. Different strokes for different folks. I had a couple in my store today. The husband fell in love with the AS Pro. They have a newly made "game room". It was a big investment for them. They went to lunch to talk it over. They came back and we will be delivering it on Wednesday. These folks were newbies and are so excited about it. Everyday we are seeing more and more of these casual player who just want to have fun. I sell them a Stern Pro and they come back in six months or a year and buy another. Why? I always ask. They had so much fun and the game was reliable. I have to tell you that pinball is on fire. I sell other brands besides Stern. I can honestly say that the Pinball industry is producing quality games. I can also say that I am certain that their quality is much better than almost any other industry. I am also proud to say that they are made in the good old USA. We stand behind our pinballs with a full one year warranty. This includes replacing any playfield that has any issues including ghosting. If it was a real problem, I would be going out of business instead of celebrating our 75th year. Pinball is fun. Enjoy the greatest hobby on earth
-J
What really has people fired up is Stern adding that disclaimer on the Star Wars manual that ghosting is "normal", I think you as a dealer should push back on them and let them know this is BS. That disclaimer is what is giving a lot of people pause and causing this outrage....It certainly doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy knowing if I buy a NIB Stern machine and it has ghosting that they have a disclaimer they can hide behind now.
Quoted from EricHadley:What really has people fired up is Stern adding that disclaimer on the Star Wars manual that ghosting is "normal", I think you as a dealer should push back on them and let them know this is BS. That disclaimer is what is giving a lot of people pause and causing this outrage....It certainly doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy knowing if I buy a NIB Stern machine and it has ghosting that they have a disclaimer they can hide behind now.
I think that the disclaimer was about legalese in reference to overseas laws. I do think the way it was done was unfortunate. I did, as well as other dealer, raise some concern. Stern did respond that nothing had changed and that they were going to stand behind their pinballs as they always have. Stern has always been great with me. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt until they give a reason to second guess them. I also believe that this really is a limited issue. We warranty our new pinballs for a full year. We cover these issues. I covered these exact issues in "Stern new policy-GHOSTING IS NORMAL....OR IS IT?" The post were numbers 365,368,404 and 406. If your dealer stands behind what they sell then these are much smaller issues. I know that many dealers out there are awesome.
The issue I have here is that this post is so unfair to Stern. Does anyone here really believe that 23 units have major problems? This site says that 168 pinsiders own the game. At the same time it is ranked at number 14. All the AS pinballs we have been in contact with have been perfect. In many ways the best yet. One of the things I did mention in the other post is that it is our policy to open and inspect all the games we sell. We do honor NIB request but try to talk folks out of it. If a buyer does a little homework, then it really is easy. Your dealer is responsible in providing you with a positive pinball experience regardless of manufacturer. That is our job. It is important to me that all pinball customers are happy. This is an awesome hobby. I know many dealers out there and they feel the same way.
-J
Quoted from 0geist0:Give it time, the'll get worse.
For the most part AS seems pretty solid, but one of my friends customers had little specs of dust on his pin that was cleared over and now his 1,3,5 and lock are ghosting from dust particles. Only slight crazing on one insert. The problem is that this all happened in the span of three days and about 60 plays. I think this is worse than a ghosting issue as it is actual debris under clear and this will get way worse. On the plus side for AS owners this is most likely an isolated incident. My friend in two months goes back for service call and will check to see if it gets any worse.
Quoted from PinballAlley:I think that the disclaimer was about legalese in reference to overseas laws. I do think the way it was done was unfortunate. I did, as well as other dealer, raise some concern. Stern did respond that nothing had changed and that they were going to stand behind their pinballs as they always have. Stern has always been great with me. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt until they give a reason to second guess them. I also believe that this really is a limited issue. We warranty our new pinballs for a full year. We cover these issues. I covered these exact issues in "Stern new policy-GHOSTING IS NORMAL....OR IS IT?" The post were numbers 365,368,404 and 406. If your dealer stands behind what they sell then these are much smaller issues. I know that many dealers out there are awesome.
The issue I have here is that this post is so unfair to Stern. Does anyone here really believe that 23 units have major problems? This site says that 168 pinsiders own the game. At the same time it is ranked at number 14. All the AS pinballs we have been in contact with have been perfect. In many ways the best yet. One of the things I did mention in the other post is that it is our policy to open and inspect all the games we sell. We do honor NIB request but try to talk folks out of it. If a buyer does a little homework, then it really is easy. Your dealer is responsible in providing you with a positive pinball experience regardless of manufacturer. That is our job. It is important to me that all pinball customers are happy. This is an awesome hobby. I know many dealers out there and they feel the same way.
-J
Good on you for expressing how you feel and posting fact. I feel the same. I keep asking for people to post a piece of paper with their name and the date on it next to the complaints for AS. As I said previously I smell BS and lots of it. My wife and I support everything pinball and we have never been let down. This hobby is sensational and most of the people in this hobby are fantastic.
Quoted from kpg:I actually mentioned on my final update that I'd consider another Stern once they figured out their issues, because they did in fact replace my GBLE playfield after all. Well, after the Illinois state attorney generals office contacted them... and the very next day they said my playfield was ready. Maybe just good timing? Lol.. either way, I played AS and I really wanted one. Tried the NIB lottery and I got a beautiful and perfect machine out of the box.. playfield is immaculate, cabinet solid and no flaws/ and not even a single adjustment needed. Unboxed it, put a sheet of invisiglass in, and fired it up. Excellent game!
Now that Bm66........ how's those code updates doing? How do those $15K SLE owners still feel? lollll.
On a side note... can't wait to get my AFMR LE. Now that's the NIB pin to beat for value and build quality right now.
You deserved a PF from day one on GB
It was never in doubt
Actually love my BM66LE.
Welcome to the AS club!
Quoted from iceman44:You deserved a PF from day one on GB
It was never in doubt
Actually love my BM66LE.
Welcome to the AS club!
For sure dude... AS is a great game, dare I say Stern's best release in years! Dirty Donnie's art to the layout, rules, etc make it an all around winner. Looks great next to my MET as well. I wanted to give Stern some more time before buying NIB, and it seems with AS they have fixed a lot of issues. Had it not been for them replacing my GBLE playfield and making everything right, I wouldn't have bought another NIB Stern.
But yeah, AS is an overall great package and the playfield clearcoat and quality makes my original GBLE playfield look like a cheap Chinese knockoff vs a quality playfield.
Quoted from kpg:For sure dude... AS is a great game, dare I say Stern's best release in years! Dirty Donnie's art to the layout, rules, etc make it an all around winner. Looks great next to my MET as well. I wanted to give Stern some more time before buying NIB, and it seems with AS they have fixed a lot of issues. Had it not been for them replacing my GBLE playfield and making everything right, I wouldn't have bought another NIB Stern.
But yeah, AS is an overall great package and the playfield clearcoat and quality makes my original GBLE playfield look like a cheap Chinese knockoff vs a quality playfield.
If all of their games could be AS quality that would be sweet. SW doesn't appear to be of the same quality. I played a SW tonight and I didn't see any ghosting but the dimpling was pretty bad, far worse than my AS. Stern is experimenting with these playfields is all I can figure. The quality of AS proves that I think.
Quoted from PinballAlley:Hi All,
The level of Stern haters here is unbelievable. As I write this the trolls that live under the bridge claim that 21 units of AS pinballs have ghosting. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! If you want to miss out on a great pinball because of just plain old Stern bashing then of course that is your prerogative. All the AS units I have sold have been perfect. The Pro and LE in my showroom are perfect. In fact in the last year, out of all the Stern pinball's we have sold, we only had one issue.(and it WASN'T ghosting) On that one issue , Stern stood behind it and it was quickly rectified. If you don't like Stern then that's ok. Different strokes for different folks. I had a couple in my store today. The husband fell in love with the AS Pro. They have a newly made "game room". It was a big investment for them. They went to lunch to talk it over. They came back and we will be delivering it on Wednesday. These folks were newbies and are so excited about it. Everyday we are seeing more and more of these casual player who just want to have fun. I sell them a Stern Pro and they come back in six months or a year and buy another. Why? I always ask. They had so much fun and the game was reliable. I have to tell you that pinball is on fire. I sell other brands besides Stern. I can honestly say that the Pinball industry is producing quality games. I can also say that I am certain that their quality is much better than almost any other industry. I am also proud to say that they are made in the good old USA. We stand behind our pinballs with a full one year warranty. This includes replacing any playfield that has any issues including ghosting. If it was a real problem, I would be going out of business instead of celebrating our 75th year. Pinball is fun. Enjoy the greatest hobby on earth
-J
Easy for you to say... you're a dealer. What, you're going to hop on the internet and tell everyone the product you sell for a living is cheaply made crap?
Way to diminish the the concerns of actual paying customers... folks that are forking out $5k plus for a toy.
Just because folks point out some of the obvious flaws doesn't mean they are haters or trolls. Stern is the one that has cranked prices and dropped the ball on QC, not the customers.
Quoted from 27dnast:Easy for you to say... you're a dealer. What, you're going to hop on the internet and tell everyone the product you sell for a living is cheaply made crap?
Way to diminish the the concerns of actual paying customers... folks that are forking out $5k plus for a toy.
Just because folks point out some of the obvious flaws doesn't mean they are haters or trolls. Stern is the one that has cranked prices and dropped the ball on QC, not the customers.
Easy for me to say? Really? I have been doing this for a long time. To place a 1 year warranty on a product is not easy. We do it because customer service is important. We do it exactly because we do understand that these pinballs are expensive. Stern makes a good quality machine. Really to be fair , they are making some of the best made pinballs in history. Selling new pinballs is only a segment of what we do. A larger segment is repair and restoration work. That means we see all kinds of models and all kinds of issues. We also represent other makers. I have not seen any ghosting issues on AS. As far as I can tell it seems to be rock solid. DO you own an AS? IS it ghosting? If it is did your dealer help to fix the situation?
Quoted from PinballAlley:Easy for me to say? Really? I have been doing this for a long time. To place a 1 year warranty on a product is not easy. We do it because customer service is important. We do it exactly because we do understand that these pinballs are expensive. Stern makes a good quality machine. Really to be fair , they are making some of the best made pinballs in history. Selling new pinballs is only a segment of what we do. A larger segment is repair and restoration work. That means we see all kinds of models and all kinds of issues. We also represent other makers. I have not seen any ghosting issues on AS. As far as I can tell it seems to be rock solid. DO you own an AS? IS it ghosting? If it is did your dealer help to fix the situation?
If you're suggesting that Stern is making the "best made Pinball's in history"... as in best build quality... then you're opinion goes against the grain of mine (as a collector) and lots of other people that have been in the business for a long time.
You can come on these boards and advertise your business. That's cool. This is a great billboard for you to let everyone know that you warranty your nib games for one year. So, here's your chance to define ghosting... I'm curious. A person buys a game from you and over the next month, a sliver of ghosting develops on an insert. What will you, the dealer, do about it? Another customer has a little bit of clear crack away from a drain hole... what's the solution?
How about incomplete code? You have a customer buy a $7000 game and Stern drops support of code development for the game. An entire year passes and the game isn't getting supported. What's your warranty say?
What does it matter what his warranty says. If stern isn't going to write more code then there is no way to get it. Of stern refuses to replace a PF or a cab is he going to replace on his dime? I'll bet not. It's great that he tries to stand behind what he sells but the statement hat stern's pins are better than any pins of the past if you are referring to quality is bullshit
Well, no photo with my face or a date - sorry!
At the point I threw down on a NIB AS I was not happy whilst considering the cost, risk and value of buying new from Stern. They are really trying to reach a pain point for me, where the value doesn't outpace the cost and risk.
That said - these are Not investments for me. I am fine assuming an amount of loss upfront on my purchases, new or used, really. I buy games for myself and others to enjoy.
Yeah, my resale will take a greater hit than I would prefer with ghosting or other manufacturer-related quality issues. Likely why you haven't seen anyone post photos beyond their anonymous poll vote (or they're shills/haters, gabba-gabba-Pinside).
I am pretty sure that it will take a Great amount of time and play for this ghosting to begin chipping around the inserts.
My GOT has had ghosting since I purchased it second hand at 500 plays. I didn't notice it at first. I was pretty bummed when I realized it. We have enjoyed it, and it plays like a pinball machine, so I calmed down pretty quickly.
Hell, my SM .. from 2007 .. is heavily ghosted. Game plays, and has played, great since it came out of the box. The ghosting has not yet turned to chipping.
I certainly believe something has changed, and it has not been a smooth transition - that is if they are even trying to produce a quality clear. It is not good for the consumer at large. I will personally have to put a bit more thought into future Stern purchases - although I will likely pop for another in the next year. That'll be when the needle in my arm starts to dry up.
Honestly, while I speak of buying games to enjoy, and which feed the beast, I am relatively positive that my next NIB will be TNA.
Quoted from 27dnast:If you're suggesting that Stern is making the "best made Pinball's in history"... as in best build quality... then you're opinion goes against the grain of mine (as a collector) and lots of other people that have been in the business for a long time.
You can come on these boards and advertise your business. That's cool. This is a great billboard for you to let everyone know that you warranty your nib games for one year. So, here's your chance to define ghosting... I'm curious. A person buys a game from you and over the next month, a sliver of ghosting develops on an insert. What will you, the dealer, do about it? Another customer has a little bit of clear crack away from a drain hole... what's the solution?
How about incomplete code? You have a customer buy a $7000 game and Stern drops support of code development for the game. An entire year passes and the game isn't getting supported. What's your warranty say?
Let's go at these one at a time. First off, I am not trying to advertise myself per se but rather dealers in general. I know lots of good dealers all across the country and for the most part they are good and honorable people who stand behind what they sell. As for ghosting, it is usually easy to tell if it is systemic, which points to a playfield replacement, or if it is a slight problem with a singular insert. In the case of the latter we have been able to successfully repair it. If a game has clear cracking around a drain hole , that playfield needs to be replaced. We know that it will spread. These are the reasons why we like to inspect games before we sell them. I try like hell not to deliver games with issues. As for code, I am confident Stern will continue to write code. Code is a funny thing. I know people who are still writing code for pinballs from the 90's . Being a geek myself, I think the urge to write code never goes away. I think the guys writing code for Stern are going to catch up. It is my opinion that Stern moved up the release of batman 66 knowing that Adam West was ill. Look I sell different makers pinballs. You don't have to love Stern. You have choices. Regardless of what pinball you choose it is a good idea to find a dealer you like and trust. It does take the risk out of an expensive item.
Quoted from zr11990:What does it matter what his warranty says. If stern isn't going to write more code then there is no way to get it. Of stern refuses to replace a PF or a cab is he going to replace on his dime? I'll bet not. It's great that he tries to stand behind what he sells but the statement hat stern's pins are better than any pins of the past if you are referring to quality is bullshit
Let me say that absolutely I am prepared to back up my warranty with my own dime. I have had to do it in the past (not with Stern. So far they have stood behind everything.) As for other past makers and quality, we have been around for 75 years. I remember the nightmare kits that Bally Williams would have to send directly to vendors because the games had horrific defects. The Gottlieb of the Mondial years (Premier) were just awful. The problems we had when the Williams 2000 came out kept me up at night. I could go on. You just never heard much about it because it was a vendor problem. We purchased machines off of regional distributors like Betson and Brady and then it was in your own hand. I remember technicians being on the phone with manufacture reps for hours. In the end the solution would come from some savvy tech from a vendor and we would fax it to each other. I know it is easy to look in the rearview mirror and forget the tough times. The biggest part of my business is restoring older pinballs. I am a huge fan. It is like the auto industry. Some of my favorite cars are the carbureted muscle beast of the sixties and seventies but you have to see the fuel injected beast of today are more reliable. A dodge Charger Demon , anyone. 
This isn't life and death it is pinball and it's supposed to be fun.
If you are not having fun try golf or fishing. Heck if you try fly fishing then you can buy my book! "The Outdoor Chronicles"
Quoted from CaryCarmichael:Well, no photo with my face or a date - sorry!
At the point I threw down on a NIB AS I was not happy whilst considering the cost, risk and value of buying new from Stern. They are really trying to reach a pain point for me, where the value doesn't outpace the cost and risk.
That said - these are Not investments for me. I am fine assuming an amount of loss upfront on my purchases, new or used, really. I buy games for myself and others to enjoy.
Yeah, my resale will take a greater hit than I would prefer with ghosting or other manufacturer-related quality issues. Likely why you haven't seen anyone post photos beyond their anonymous poll vote (or they're shills/haters, gabba-gabba-Pinside).
I am pretty sure that it will take a Great amount of time and play for this ghosting to begin chipping around the inserts.
My GOT has had ghosting since I purchased it second hand at 500 plays. I didn't notice it at first. I was pretty bummed when I realized it. We have enjoyed it, and it plays like a pinball machine, so I calmed down pretty quickly.
Hell, my SM .. from 2007 .. is heavily ghosted. Game plays, and has played, great since it came out of the box. The ghosting has not yet turned to chipping.
I certainly believe something has changed, and it has not been a smooth transition - that is if they are even trying to produce a quality clear. It is not good for the consumer at large. I will personally have to put a bit more thought into future Stern purchases - although I will likely pop for another in the next year. That'll be when the needle in my arm starts to dry up.
Honestly, while I speak of buying games to enjoy, and which feed the beast, I am relatively positive that my next NIB will be TNA.
Just a quick note...
My games are in the Warehouse next to my office, so I just walked past them all to investigate a bit further (I asked someone to snap photos for me last week when I was out of town). Every Sega/Stern playfield I have has at least one ghosted insert, with 2 exceptions. GZA, HD, POTC, SM, IJ4, BDK, ST, GOT and AS all have at least 1 ghosted insert. Tron and BBH do not have any ghosted inserts.
I was a bit taken aback when I reviewed my photos from AS. It does appear to me that the Sweet Emotion insert IS chipping on the left side where it is ghosting. I'll pull the glass before League tonight to feel what my eyes are seeing.
Uh. Well. Grrr.
Another follow up. I decided to take a moment to feel if there was any chipping. There is not .. on Sweet Emotion. I can actually feel the jagged edge of the Toys in the Attic insert. It is not yet terrible, but we haven't had it long, either.
So, here is a set of photos to show all inserts with any amount of ghosting on my AS.
PW79 uh, damn?
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Fuck
Where were you this morning?
My game is en route as of noon today.
Looks like damn near every Aerosmith insert is ghosting. On the left too.
When did you receive your Aerosmith?
What date in on the game?
What date is on the PF?
Quoted from PW79:Fuck
Where were you this morning?
My game is en route as of noon today.
Looks like damn near every Aerosmith insert is ghosting. On the left too.
When did you receive your Aerosmith?
What date in on the game?
What date is on the PF?
The bright side is with that many ghosted inserts he should be getting a playfield replacement.
Would really suck if 10 people posed their AS with 1 ghosted insert each.
I still plan to order a premium next week.
Quoted from CaryCarmichael:Another follow up. I decided to take a moment to feel if there was any chipping. There is not .. on Sweet Emotion. I can actually feel the jagged edge of the Toys in the Attic insert. It is not yet terrible, but we haven't had it long, either.
So, here is a set of photos to show all inserts with any amount of ghosting on my AS.
pw79 uh, damn?
It does look remarkably undimpled however...compared to TWD and virtually every other title lately. Shows actual hard wood (ala WMS/BLY days) is still available. If you are willing to pay for it (Stern?). There was a SW PF shown recently that was a crater-fest.
I guess the theory that AS won't suffer from ghosting has been debunked.
Stern is nothing if not consistent.
Quoted from PW79:Fuck
Where were you this morning?
My game is en route as of noon today.
Looks like damn near every Aerosmith insert is ghosting. On the left too.
When did you receive your Aerosmith?
What date in on the game?
What date is on the PF?
Not naked with my wife, smoking a piece, or drinking... so to your point doing none of the right things.
I am sorry, mate. I would have liked you to make a fully informed decision, but I hadn't gotten to posting quick enough. I surely wasn't posting for my own health - I'm now outed as having only ghosted games - Cary's bargain priced, pre-ghosted, Stern games.
@PW79, PM me your address. I'll send ya a 4 pack to help you welcome your new, totally unfucked, AS!
*walking next door*
No date on the Playfield that I could see at quick glance.
5.26.2017 game build date.
Additional info because you may not know me, photo is sarcastic.
Quoted from CaryCarmichael:Not naked with my wife, smoking a piece, or drinking... so to your point doing none of the right things.
I am sorry, mate. I would have liked you to make a fully informed decision, but I hadn't gotten to posting quick enough. I surely wasn't posting for my own health - I'm now outed as having only ghosted games - Cary's bargain priced, pre-ghosted, Stern games.
PW79, PM me your address. I'll send ya a 4 pack to help you welcome your new, totally unfucked, AS!
*walking next door*
No date on the Playfield that I could see at quick glance.
5.26.2017 game build date.
I dont drink any more.
But I'm a fan of prop 64 
I & others certainly appreciate your pic & story tho. Thanks for sharing!
Quoted from PW79:I dont drink any more.
But I'm a fan of prop 64
I & others certainly appreciate your pic & story tho. Thanks for sharing!
That's good. I said a 4 pack because I would have already ghosted 2 of them by the time I shipped.
Quoted from PW79:Fuck
Where were you this morning?
My game is en route as of noon today.
Looks like damn near every Aerosmith insert is ghosting. On the left too.
When did you receive your Aerosmith?
What date in on the game?
What date is on the PF?
The newest insert checking method...
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Quoted from PW79:But if so I'm sure there are some smart people out there who can easily run a quick & very effective smear campaign utilizing platforms Stern cannot moderate.
They will fall if they fck too many people
Nowadays you have to be careful with this. There was a story on MSN the other day about a newlywed bride who wasn't getting her wedding pictures because she owed an additional $125.00 fee for the cover of the wedding book. She started a smear campaign against the photographer that went widespread, and the photographer lost her business. She sued the couple for $1 Million (I think that was the amount), and the photographer won the judgement.
Quoted from chippe01:Nowadays you have to be careful with this. There was a story on MSN the other day about a newlywed bride who wasn't getting her wedding pictures because she owed an additional $125.00 fee for the cover of the wedding book. She started a smear campaign against the photographer that went widespread, and the photographer lost her business. She sued the couple for $1 Million (I think that was the amount), and the photographer won the judgement.
Well, she owed $125 & comitted slander. Sounds like she was a bridezilla. Crazy bitches really are crazy.
Thats a far cry from a pinball consumer who paid in full for a misrepresented item.
The beauty of socia media & hundreds of victims is no single person is at the helm.
I dont think the folks who put Bernie Madoff on blast were found gulilty of slander.
Not sure it would even get to that point. Hopefully Stern rights their wrong. If not there's plenty of evidence on Pinside to use against them & they were just in the spotlight of the IL attorney general from what I read. If that story is true?
I'm gonna hope for the best with my Aerosmith PF. If that fails I'm gonna hope for the best w/Stern. If that fails, well, I'm gonna do what I have to do.
Hopefully I just eat bacon, play pinball & enjoy life until I die. Dealing w/Stern for a PF is not something I want to deal with.
Quoted from PW79:Well, she owed $125 & comitted slander. Sounds like she was a bridezilla. Crazy bitches really are crazy.
Thats a far cry from a pinball consumer who paid in full for a misrepresented item.
The beauty of socia media & hundreds of victims is no single person is at the helm.
I dont think the folks who put Bernie Madoff on blast were found gulilty of slander.
Not sure it would even get to that point. Hopefully Stern rights their wrong. If not there's plenty of evidence on Pinside to use against them & they were just in the spotlight of the IL attorney general from what I read. If that story is true?
I'm gonna hope for the best with my Aerosmith PF. If that fails I'm gonna hope for the best w/Stern. If that fails, well, I'm gonna do what I have to do.
Hopefully I just eat bacon, play pinball & enjoy life until I die. Dealing w/Stern for a PF is not something I want to deal with.
It's going to be fine PW and you are going to love your new game bro! AS is sweet....
Quoted from PW79:I'm gonna hope for the best with my Aerosmith PF. If that fails I'm gonna hope for the best w/Stern. If that fails, well, I'm gonna do what I have to do.
Hopefully I just eat bacon, play pinball & enjoy life until I die. Dealing w/Stern for a PF is not something I want to deal with.
Take your panties off Curly and put on your big boy pants!
Your AS is gonna be fine and you'll love it. Might be time to start drinking again though just in case.
Quoted from iceman44:Take your panties off Curly and put on your big boy pants!
Your AS is gonna be fine and you'll love it. Might be time to start drinking again though just in case.
If anything bad happens to my game... I'm blaming you Ice. I'm not even contacting Stern for a PF replacement. I'm just gonna let you handle it.
As for the drinking... I didn't go to rehab or get trapped in some intervention. I just got bored with booze & opted to take a break. Give it time. I will be an idiot again.
Quoted from Who-Dey:It's going to be fine PW and you are going to love your new game bro! AS is sweet....
Call me Mulder cause "I want to believe" but I "trust no one"
Cary is the first issue that I've seen with a AS playfield. I don't think PW will have any problems at all. No way every playfield is going to be perfect with no flaws, that's impossible. I just cleaned and waxed my playfield last night and checked everything real good and it looks like a million bucks. There is absolutely a quality difference in the AS playfields.
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