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Advice For Early Solid State Owners

By oldschoolbob

4 years ago


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    #3 4 years ago
    Quoted from mark532011:

    I think the big problem for most is that the connectors are almost impossible to find. My globetrotters has 25 and 28 pin connectors...tough
    Then if you can find the right connectors it’s quite tedious and fraught with difficulty to wire them up. I redid some of mine 3 times and I still think one of the pins isn’t making a connection on one

    Reuse the old connector housings there's no reason to replace them unless they are the IDC type as in the newer older games.

    The other issue you will get better with practice.... it helps to have a quality crimper. The Yellow handled Waldron is "ok" for a pin or 2, but for mass repinnings a good ratcheting one is a must and makes it so much easier to get good crimps.

    #15 4 years ago
    Quoted from mark532011:

    it’s not as easy as you make it sound. Removing the connector from a housing without damaging the housing is tricky, cutting the wire, crimping a new pin receptor and getting it back in solidly is not easy.

    That's where the practice and experience comes in. A lot of it comes down to the tools you get though, if you have crap tools, it's just going to be an exercise in frustration for you. I have the same blue handled crimper oldschoolbob does (as well as the yellow handle waldrons), but I use a small jewelers' screwdriver to get the pins out. That's the biggest pain. I made crap connections for years before I got the right tools.

    Quoted from Coyote:

    Plus the old plastic can be brittle. Since most of the hard work is recrimping, which you're doing *anways*, I just replace everything.

    Sure, when the housings are easily available. The .100 bally ones don't usually get too brittle or hammered though and I've saved a bunch of them from parts playfields from years past. .156 connectors I always use new ones it's just faster than extracting the pins ones at a time.

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    #71 4 years ago

    What exactly makes old solder 'bad' that reflowing it and adding a bit of solder doesn't fix?

    #74 4 years ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    I had one of those and gave it away. I also have one of those squeeze bulbs. bought the Hakko and have never been sorry.

    I've never really found a use for the squeeze bulb type, certainly not to suck up solder. I have the hakko for chips or if I'm doing a lot at once but otherwise the solder sucker tube or braid works fine.

    For people with the hakko.... if you can desolder sideways it makes it a lot easier since you're not overcoming gravity. At a buddy's once I had to replace a 40 pin PIA on a system 11 board he went upstairs for a couple minutes to get a beer and when he came back down I was done with the desoldering AND the installation of a new socket.... he couldn't believe it.

    Of course, major advantage when you're cutting OUT the chip and just have to remove the pins. But still.... less than 10 minutes.

    Get extra filters and change them occasionally to keep the pump in good shape.

    #77 4 years ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    Are you referring to the spring loaded solder tube? I have one like that and it's pretty easy to use and works well.

    Yeah, I have a couple of old radioshack ones that work fine. Sometimes the pin that pushes the solder out gets misaligned but other than that it's good.

    1 week later
    #108 4 years ago

    That's some bad QC.... you have a right to be pissed. No way are those going into the housings and staying correctly.

    #112 4 years ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    Ed is beyond repute, he's offers top quality parts and service.

    Yes, that's why he's going to take care of it with his supplier - it sucks for him to get stuck with the poor QC he posted pics of.

    #118 4 years ago
    Quoted from Mombo-number-5:

    I'm sure they are packed by weight, the only QC would be what the gram scale says.
    I'm not pissed, found it surprising if anything. I have been a Great Plains customer for 20 years or so. Ed is always the first choice for pinball electronic repair stuff. I don't know what the Mouser catalog is like these days, but you use to need a BA in Greek to figure it out the last time I looked at it. Digikey (a Minnesota company about 85 miles from me) can't seem to find their ass with both hands, it takes them 3 weeks to change their mind (or used to).

    I meant Ed must be pissed.... as the supplier he's going to be ordering thousands and thousands of these, and the complaints are going to be directed at him, and now he has to deal with it. Ed's great no one disputes that.

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