Advice on a Star Trek TNG pinball

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Advice on a Star Trek TNG pinball


By Herm

6 years ago



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#1 6 years ago

I've been looking to get a pinball machine for the last few months. I narrowed it down to Star Trek TNG because well mostly I'm a Trek fan and I've been playing it on the pinball arcade. I start looking around for the local shops to see if they have one. One seller in town does have one and well I thought I would see with you guys on if this a good purchase or not. This seller originally wanted 3895 but I was only able to get him down to 3695.

Faults of the machine.
Delta Quadrant ramp is damaged on the side and is cracked on the top.
The alpha quadrant ramp is cracked
The right shield indicator protective coating has discolored about the size of a nickel
2 of the plastics broken.

Back glass condition in fair condition. Bulbs look good, none that were burned out. Back board and electronics look okay. Interior wiring okay enough for a 19 year old machine.

It looks like it's in okay enough condition for a 19 year old machine. I just find the issue with these faults coupled with the price and the seller to be enough to raise doubts. My friends among one of them that have several machines feel that the price is too high but I feel they might be out of touch with how the pinball market is and they don't care for the seller or his company. The machine is being sold as is.

What do you all think? Attached is some of the photos I took of it when it was on location.

http://s162.beta.photobucket.com/user/Siddeous/library/TNG%20pinball

What is a good price on a TNG pinball? 3695, good bad, fair?

#2 6 years ago

Are you able to work on pins ? I ask because a STNG as is, can be a world of hurt to learn on. Of course once you fix everything you'd be an expert.

Price seems high to me.

LTG : )

#3 6 years ago

It's not horrible as long as it's playing 100%....but it a little high considering condition.

There is a TON of info on the net for repairing this pin so don't be too scared as long as you are a half decent DIY'r.

The ramps can be pricey to replace though.

Clean and working 100% with nothing broken STTNG is running 4k today.

Show up with $3400 in cash and you might just walk away with it.

#4 6 years ago

Seems a bit high to me also I just bought one for 3400.00 that was in above average shape. It is a great game though. I agree with Astro on the cash in hand 100 dollar bills talk.

LTG is correct you will have some issues and you will have to spend $.

I know it is simple to some but if you look at the DMD and see if it has a credit dot that can help you to know if it has some issues and help you negotiate.

#5 6 years ago
Quoted from 1967Firebird:

Seems a bit high to me also I just bought one for 3400.00 that was in above average shape. It is a great game though. I agree with Astro on the cash in hand 100 dollar bills talk.
LTG is correct you will have some issues and you will have to spend $.
I know it is simple to some but if you look at the DMD and see if it has a credit dot that can help you to know if it has some issues and help you negotiate.

I offered 3k in cash noting the issues and the owner was adiment on 3695 saying it was playable. When I first saw the machine the dot was present and by the time it got shopped and sent to another location on accident it was no longer present. I had plans to DIY everything, one of my friends offered to help me with learning the ropes. With it's condition I inquired about a warranty like 30 days because it was on rotation and it's condition. That was a no go which didn't help with me wanting to buy it.

#6 6 years ago

Ugh, too high, low 3's.

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#7 6 years ago

offer 3300

#8 6 years ago

Sttng is not that rare. You can do better. The price is a little high but not crazy. The nickel sized playfield blemish would be a deal breaker, for me.

Sttng can be quite problematic for a new owner. Hope you like tinkering. there's a reason that there's so much repair info for this game.

#9 6 years ago

Price is high, (max is $ 3300-3400) based on condition - Its a great/fun game - you will learn alot about fixing pinball machines which can never be a bad thing.

#10 6 years ago

Too high, the ramps are expensive.

#11 6 years ago

Due to errors/issues I advise paying less for it..

#12 6 years ago

Really, it comes down to how badly you want it.

Ramps aren't "that" big of an issue unless you want perfect conditions ramps. There are metal guards that will cover most of the cracks encountered. If these are not sufficient, expect $150 per ramp needing to be replaced.

The surface imperfection is a deal breaker for me, but if you can live with it.

His price is high, that is absolutely for sure, especially in the US(I paid about the same for mine in Canada). However you have to decide if it's worth it right now. Do you REALLY want it, or can you put up an ad and hope in the next year or two a different one comes along? If you aren't desperate, don't consider it.

Also a bunch of my plastics are broken too. Doesn't matter too much in my opinion, they are the most affordable to replace.

#13 6 years ago

I've got one new ramp and a couple used ones that are in real good shape. I'd sell them at about half what the cost at Marco if you buy it.

#14 6 years ago

WAAAY too high on price. Sounds like a sub-3k machine to me. You can find a better machine for a cheaper price. It may not be tomorrow.

#15 6 years ago
Quoted from PinSpinner:

WAAAY too high on price. Sounds like a sub-3k machine to me. You can find a better machine for a cheaper price. It may not be tomorrow.

LOL

Sub 3k on STTNG and your looking at needing a new display, fixing / replacing most if not all of the plastics and ramps and needing some cab repair.

#16 6 years ago

Wow, have they shot up since last fall..... Had one that sold here in town in August for 2.8k in pristine condition. Sounds like I got in on mine at the right time.

#17 6 years ago

It looks like the left flipper is also cracked. Price does seem a little high. You also need to heed LTG's warning, this is a high maintainance pin with lots of potential issues. If you are not well versed and handy this is not the game for you IMO.

#18 6 years ago
Quoted from PinSpinner:

sub-3k machine to me

Ya sub-3k about 2 years ago.

I'd say its an OK price but, certainly not a great price.

I would say it all depends on how bad you chomping for a STTNG. If you don't mind waiting and spending more time hunting for one, you'll likely find a better deal down the road. You just have to have patience as it could take a few months.

#19 6 years ago

Is that popped clear on the shield insert? If so vid1900 made a thread recently where he shows exactly how to repair that type of wear

#20 6 years ago

The flippers have been fixed. Those photos were from when i went and played some games on location. All was done was some cleaning and tightening of the flippers and the kickback. Is it the game i want to own but its one i can wait and find a better machine. Ive started to expand my search to reno, salt lake city, oregon and Northern idaho. I emailed the seller telling him not at its price/condition. Thanked them for their time and the search continues.

#21 6 years ago

I'd sell you a nice one with no broken ramps, new head decals, just shopped and 100% working for around $4k but you'd pay an extra $400 to have it shipped to you.

STTNG can be a pain in the a** to get 100% working, and even then it can develop issues later so you'll want some help (from the seller, or a knowledgeable friend) later if you aren't experienced.

#22 6 years ago

It is addicting to fix, though. I almost enjoy working on this as much as I enjoy playing on it.

#23 6 years ago
Quoted from Erik:

Is that popped clear on the shield insert? If so vid1900 made a thread recently where he shows exactly how to repair that type of wear

Yeah it looked like it was discolorization from the mylar coating. When I looked underneath I couldn't see it. The plastic was clear so it looked like it was just the mylar.

#24 6 years ago
Quoted from Herm:

Yeah it looked like it was discolorization from the mylar coating. When I looked underneath I couldn't see it. The plastic was clear so it looked like it was just the mylar.

STTNG didn't come with full mylar...just a few patches in prone wear spots ...if someone had put full mylar on it, that might be a good thing ...you could freeze it off & remove the glue.

#25 6 years ago

Ive been doing some searching and a place about an hours drive has one. I should know in the next couple of days if the owner is interested in selling. A nice thing about being an hour away it's not a problem to go get it.

#26 6 years ago

I got a hold of the company an hour away in Oregon that has a TNG pinball on location. I am going to check it out, it's on location. The going price according to their distributor is 3500-4500. So I am going to look at it and if I like it I'll have it returned to their shop and have it gone over and then offer about 3500 since I have to get it and set it up myself. With it in Oregon I won't have to pay sales tax.

I put an ad up on Craigslist and I did get a response. Might be looking at theirs over the weekend.

#27 6 years ago
Quoted from Herm:

I got a hold of the company an hour away in Oregon that has a TNG pinball on location. I am going to check it out, it's on location. The going price according to their distributor is 3500-4500. So I am going to look at it and if I like it I'll have it returned to their shop and have it gone over and then offer about 3500 since I have to get it and set it up myself. With it in Oregon I won't have to pay sales tax.
I put an ad up on Craigslist and I did get a response. Might be looking at theirs over the weekend.

Good luck on the hunt. I hope you find a nice one.

LTG : )

#28 6 years ago

The one in Ontario Oregon is a nice one from what I have seen, it definitely needs to be shopped and cleaned. This one is in far more better condition compared to the one at Ellis. There was only 1 broken plastic but it was the same left plastic as the other machine. The Delta Quadrant ramp is in great condition, there is a slight crack in the Alpha quadrant ramp but it is not going to affect anything. The back box is in good condition, just needs some touch up paint in a couple of areas. Other than that it's in good condition from what I saw. I am going to call them on Monday and have them bring it back so I look more in depth.

#29 6 years ago

Good job flushing out some close TNG's. Let us which one you get.

#30 6 years ago

I also looked at another one today. I put an ad on Craigslist earlier last week looking for a TNG pinball and got a response from a Pinball enthusiast about 15 minutes away from me. He is looking to get around 4200 for it.

Craigslist
It's in great condition. A lot of the plastics need to be replaced but he has a plastics kit that's included so not an issue. The play field is in great condition and clean. The delta quadrant ramp is missing a little of it's ramp at the base. I'll need to get ramp guards. The wiring underneath is in great condition. The machine has had a partial LED light conversion. I would say about 75% of the machines lights are LED. Machine is owned by a pinball enthusiast that owns about 15 pinball machines. 4200 A side note I got to play a Medieval Madness.

Ontario Or
It's in good condition from what I saw. It needs to get cleaned and shopped. The back box could use a little touch up paint. The Delta Quadrant ramp no issues. Would need to have it brought back to their shop to see the under body and the wiring underneath. 1 broken plastic. looking around 4000 for it.

Pros of Craigslist TNG: Closer drive, owned by an enthusiast, not an operator, 75% lights LEDs, new plastics kit, clean. No sales tax.

Pros of Ontario TNG: Would need to have price dropped by a few hundred 3700 maybe? No Sales tax with purchases with companies in Oregon.

Cons of Craigslist TNG: Not really a con but the Delta Quadrant has a small portion of the base of the ramp broken. with some ramp guards not a problem. Owner not 100% certain on selling so he probably won't let it go for less.

Cons of Ontario TNG: Would need to look at it at their shop. 1 hr drive from Boise. min 2 trips. Price compared to the enthusiast's machine. Might not deliver so I might need to go pick it up.

I'm thinking the Craigslist TNG pinball unless the Ontario one would drop the price a couple hundred bucks to make it more inciting.

#31 6 years ago

Looking at all your pro's and con's the Craigslist one sounds like the better way to go.

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