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Adding Head Phone Jack to System 11 Machines

By darcangeloel

5 years ago


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“Would you add a headphone kit to your system 11 games?”

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  • Maybe if the cost was right? 4 votes
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#5 5 years ago

I picked up a Rollergames (System 11C) recently and I want to design my own, here's what I've figured out. This may or may not apply to earlier System 11s.

On the audio board, all the signals get mixed together and fed to a buffering op-amp. The output of this is wired to one of the pins on the volume control header. The signal goes to the volume control pot next to the tilt bob on one wire then comes back on the other. This return signal is what gets fed to the speaker amplifiers.

You can tap into the pre-amplified audio signal at the volume control on the side without the resistor and audio ground from the shield of the volume control cable.

I tapped the signal and ran it through a 10uF capacitor and 1/8" audio jack, then plugged it into a headphone amplifier. Worked great.

Note: this doesn't affect the existing speakers at all. Eventually I want to add a switch that disconnects that audio return line.

#9 5 years ago
Quoted from darcangeloel:

Sorry you actually explained it hahaha. Help me understand what you mean by shield however? Like is it connected to the ground braid or something? Very cool this is working.

Shield is the outer connector on the cable, usually made of wire braid. It's silver on the volume cable.

Kind of hard to see where I got audio ground, it's connected where the resistor and volume cable shield are connected at the screw lug.
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#12 5 years ago
Quoted from darcangeloel:

Ah got ya. So top lug to the white wire and it looks like the ground side in that audio jack is just an unshielded stranded wire? It looks like you connect at the actual screw lug the wire and resistor connect to? Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating you just trying to understand so I don't screw it up. hahaha
Do you remember by any chance what jack you used? Or the amp? If you had links that would be awesome! If not no worries

For testing I used a regular 1/8" stereo plug wired up mono, 10uF electrolytic capacitor on the signal line. Your plugs will depend on your amp.

My test amp is a powered bookshelf speaker, it has a headphone output. You're looking for a stereo headphone amplifier.

#14 5 years ago
Quoted from darcangeloel:

Got ya! Perhaps something like this? Could I run two wires to each of the clips in the back from the pot. I'd have to power it using the service plug or externally somehow
amazon.com link »

Yes, something like that, though that looks like it also doubles as a speaker amplifier.

On this one, you'd need to connect the audio signal from the machine to the two RCA jacks labeled LINE INPUT.

#18 5 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

Yes you could do that as well. In the first figure, the plug is not inserted, so the terminal 10 and 11 switches are closed routing the audio to the speaker. In the second figure, the plug is inserted which opens the 10 and 11 contacts thus routing the audio to the headphones. [quoted image]

I am trying to source a 1/4" stereo headphone jack with a NC SPST or SPDT isolated switch, like this. The preamp signal from the machine isn't meant to drive headphones directly (though you probably could in a pinch). The switch would route the signal between the headphone amp or the sound board amp.

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#20 5 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

I'm not a parts expert, but have you tried looking for NC DPDT switched jacks? You might be able to find them easier and just use one side.

Definitely could use one side of a DPDT. I've only searched eBay so far.

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