Looks nice with the yellow rings. Good job Neo !

LTG : )

Welcome to 5 years ago

I had a thought for a possible mod and for anyone with a 3d printer I would love to see if it works?

My idea is to 3d print a flipper tip extension that goes on the tip of flipper and extends the flippers out a 1/4-1/2". They are held in place by the force of the flipper rubbers and double sided tape on inside. May be an alternative to carrot flippers without having to order and replace entire flipper bats?

-Just an idea-LERMods-make it so

Standard flipper gap is about 2" at rest (which is not the minimum gap!). Ball is 1 1/16". So even on the low end (1/4" extension) of your proposed solution you'll only leave about 1 5/8", on the high end 1 1/4".

If you just chimp flip the ball would almost never drain down the center. I don't think that would be any fun at all.

I’ve had the longer flippers for a few years. It’s definitely the best solution. Mind the gap.

We are not talking about standard pinball gap we are talking about Ghostbuster gap-in a Ghostbusters thread.

My proposal is really a simple solution that would cost pennies to produce. All they are is a 3d printed extension for end of flippers to extend the flippers out slightly. I would not want these 'extensions' for standard games and would only want them for my Ghostbusters and Wheel Of Fortune. -Need to contact Rob to see if he may make me some?

Anyway when I was searching for something out there like my idea I came across an interesting product I have not seen before. Really a brilliant idea with having an adjustable flipper to adjust lengths for different games. What I like about the adjustable version is the ability to go back and forth. If the kids want to play-put extend all the way out. If the adults want to play tournament style-switch it back. Has anyone put the German Adpin flippers on their game/s? https://www.pinballnews.com/site/2018/03/07/adpin-flippers-2/
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Yuck! Way to nerf a great game
Just for that, I'm going to colorbomb all my games!

Neat but the "gap" isn't as bad as advertised.
The f u c k i n g outlanes are a bigger problem!
The f u c k i n g metal lane guides should've been higher!

-I think the Dude needs to make himself some 'lame-extenders' I mean lane- extenders

-Or he needs to buy the Proton Gun mods from Swinks

Higher means up and down from the playfield...

Reread and try again...

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I usually drain from the drop target and OVER the flipper bat. I think the carrots are taller if I remember, not by much.

Yes I read it three times just in case...lame extenders that go up the playfield like the STTNG ones out there-nothing new here

If you are getting tons of outlane drains may check out Swinks mod before altering height of outlane lanes.

I may be in the minority but I actually appreciate the level of difficulty with Ghostbusters and all of the other's peoples negative attributes are positives for me.
-Love the gap for being different and forcing you to change strategy
-Love the random slings that add tons of randomness(love the people that curse at them-they just don't get it)
-Love the low level outlanes that are super hungry and eat your balls up
-Love the steep pitch I have set up so rejects are lightning quick and STDM is a given
I guess I am used to getting kicked in the nuts but after five years I am willing to use the Proton mod for outlanes and check out an extension of some kind for flippers? I never altered before because I enjoy the challenge but my children and guest get crushed often and it would be great if everyone could get more enjoyment out of it.

I am leaning towards adjustable bats-I just dig the idea of being able to switch back and forth

I did see some really sharp looking ones on Adpins website that are extended and look better than the carrot ones.
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I never had much issue with the gap personally.

That's what she said

Some like it wide and some like em tight
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-I do think the gap is wide enough that it changes strategy. I for the life of me cannot post pass with gap.

I think it plays goofy with the karrots. My friend with a GB cheated like you too. I can usually rock the game and crack a bill every three games. And I bomb on his.

My other concern about adding more length is the increase in crazy air-balls? GB is one of my only games with crazy air-balls

We did this on the one at Crabtowne in Baltimore. Personally I don’t like it because it screws up the trajectory of the shots from the flippers. I’m probably the only one that complains about that though lol, as most people warmed up to it

This is good to know-I have grown accustomed to the shot trajectories

-Someone please print out an extension for flippers on their 3d printer and report back-inquiring minds want to know if tips would add just a little?

I have the carrots in mine. I'd say you're about right - the game feels maybe 5% easier imo - really not enough to run out and swap the flippers out if you don't already have a pair laying around (though they are cheap and it takes 5 minutes like you said).

It didn't change the shot geometry or feel of the game at all for me... except for one shot. I used to be able to backhand the left ramp off the storage facility eject every time and with the carrots that particular shot is unmakeable for some reason. Can still backhand that ramp, just not off that eject.

I must be lucky. I don't get airballs at all.

Agreed. I’ve never found the flipper gap particularly frustrating and don’t understand the fuss tbh - just part of the game. Couldn’t envisage ever going for carrots or a centre post given decent scores can be had without them.

interesting chat... here is what I learned over the years that people might find interesting

Flipper gap - is Trudeau's signature flipper gap measured at the flipper posts - 7" being the standard and Trudeau's being 7 1/8". What makes it worse is the first 6-9 months Stern sent the games out with the flippers tilted more down than the in-lane feeds which effectively increased the gap:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ghostbusters-club-we-got-one/page/136#post-5178245

and this one with messages when I chatted to Trudeau before we were aware of what happened with him:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ghostbusters-club-we-got-one/page/174#post-5875005

Airballs - are a result of the target height and target angle and the rivet on the target - and also the pan angle which we can not doing anything about - see this post:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ghostbusters-club-we-got-one/page/83#post-4077504

Flipper extenders - I tried this and very hard to 3d print as to insert just an 1/8" extension, it has to be printed so it tappers to nothing otherwise you get a gap on the front and back and affects play - has to be professionally printed and even then they don't allow to taper to nothing so I did custom flipper bats.

Custom Flippers - The Germany companies approach is nice and look more professional than my design but my design allowed for quick flipper bat swap overs:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ghostbusters-club-we-got-one/page/111#post-4688960

Outlane Drains - Trudeau also confirmed that the small rails were installed too low on the first 6-9 months of games resulting in excessive skip over the lanes. But if you go into you switch audits you can see that the ball drains alot out of the out-lanes and it isn't a kid and or visitor friendly game so I created a foot operated proton gun mod. Currently worked on an integrated upgrade add-on so all going well the mod will be a earned feature.

Increases the gap at rest but they actually wind up closer when held up. Most importantly, the smallest gap (when they're directly parallel during the actual flip) remains exactly the same. You compensate by doing your flip/move/slapsave a hair earlier to make up for the droop. The droop itself is necessary to make the extreme side shots consistently makable (see also: Elwin games).

Also, aren't the carrots only 1/16" longer, making the total gap reduction 1/8"? If they were 1/8" longer you're cutting 1/4" from the gap, which sounds pretty extreme to me.

still 7 1/8" between flipper posts which is standard Trudeau

1/8" longer is just an option especially if you still want the droop - something is better than nothing

Carrot flippers are the bomb.

Not only makes ghost busters better the carrots have turned my No Fear into a daily driver.

OMG.
Sometimes I can't tell when people are joking around or not!

Even Michael Strahan had to do something about the gap.

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Hey, anyone found another option that those Adpins bats ? I contacted them, but they are no longer making these, they only offer the extensible ones - but I am not a big fan of their look and was looking at a way to replace my ghostbusters bats ?
Thanks!

The carrot flippers are also available in white in addition to yellow. Another thought may be to get flipper decals to cover the top of carrot flippers if you do not care for the look of them.

https://www.pinballlife.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=20-9592-5

Has anyone tried the extended length precision flippers?

Thanks, I already tried the carrot flippers... but wanted to get a better look, as even after some time, I can't get used to their look

I saw that they were offering that option, but I was not sure if it was the right size for the Ghostbusters... I would be interested in getting feedback on these as well - thanks!

Contact Ulek-he has made me some custom flipper toppers that turned out great and I am sure he can custom size them to accommodate larger carrot bats. Maybe proton beams?

ok thanks I will look into this as well.