(Topic ID: 281548)

Addams Family Slide Out Playfield Conversion

By wallybgood

3 years ago


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#1 3 years ago

Been working on converting TAF’s playfield pivot system to a Stern style playfield slide out system. Required quite a few minor modifications. It’s pretty tight in some spots. So far, so good. (the Williams slide system will not fit on TAF) Planning to build a TAF from parts as this winter's project.
Wally
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#3 3 years ago
Quoted from wallybgood:

Been working on converting TAF’s playfield pivot system to a Stern style playfield slide out system. Required quite a few minor modifications. It’s pretty tight in some spots. So far, so good.
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Excellent. I thought about doing that a time or two on TAF and never could get it past the thought process.
Never even considered the Stern parts.
Is that a WPC95 cabinet it is resting in?

#4 3 years ago

Very nice work!

Could you share your measurements for the mounting holes? I have a WPC cab I need to convert to Stern rails.

#5 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Excellent. I thought about doing that a time or two on TAF and never could get it past the thought process.
Never even considered the Stern parts.
Is that a WPC95 cabinet it is resting in?

Thanks, Chris.
Yes, that is a cab originally intended for a WPC-95.
Wally

#6 3 years ago
Quoted from RatShack:

Very nice work!
Could you share your measurements for the mounting holes? I have a WPC cab I need to convert to Stern rails.

Hey RS
In order to get the TAF playfield close to the original depth, the sliding surface of the Stern support rails sit at 11-7/8 in from the cab bottom. They are parallel with the cab bottom. Some other games (FH, WH20, various WPC-95) that I checked sit at different depths.
The front edge of the support rails are positioned 26-3/8 in from interior of the coin door front wood.
The pivot brackets are located 9 in from the playfield top edge.
I tried the brackets with temporary SMS attachment first. I was OK with the placement and then went with the #10 carriage bolts.
Wally

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#7 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Excellent. I thought about doing that a time or two on TAF and never could get it past the thought process.
Never even considered the Stern parts.
Is that a WPC95 cabinet it is resting in?

Hey Chris
The Pinsider that I bought the playfield from said that it was an original that you touched up and cleared. It sure is pretty.
Wally

#8 3 years ago

You're a MAD man, Wally!

I'm going to take for granted the playfield hanger hooks don't hit the cloud topper when it's in the upright position?

#9 3 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

You're a MAD man, Wally!
I'm going to take for granted the playfield hanger hooks don't hit the cloud topper when it's in the upright position?

Hey Bryan
I'm gonna' have to keep an eye on that.
Wally

#10 3 years ago

And the Stern part numbers are......?????

#12 3 years ago

Im definitely doing this!

#13 3 years ago

Don't forget the carriage bolts & nuts for the side brackets and you have to install t-nuts and 8-32 screws for the new pivot brackets that attach to the playfield.

(6) Stern # 231-5012-00 Carriage Bolts, 10-24 x 1-1/4" long

(6) Stern # 240-5207-00 Keps Nuts, 10-24

#14 3 years ago

Looks great! Any mods to Thing's box needed?

#15 3 years ago

I would very much love to do this. Having recently worked on my TAF, I was cursing the fact that the playfield doesn’t slide out. Hmmm....

#16 3 years ago
Quoted from Barr993:

Looks great! Any mods to Thing's box needed?

Hey Barr
I don't think that there will be clearance problems with Thing. The under playfield metal box cleared everything and the playfield box is tucked behind the backboard which clears right now also.
Wally

#17 3 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

You're a MAD man, Wally!
I'm going to take for granted the playfield hanger hooks don't hit the cloud topper when it's in the upright position?

Tried the topper. Close but OK.

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#18 3 years ago

awesome work Wally

#19 3 years ago
Quoted from swinks:

awesome work Wally

Thanks, Jady.

#20 3 years ago

When the TAF playfield is in the full upright position, it leans back slightly to rest on the head. The playfield backboard has to be trimmed in order to clear the pivot support brackets. It might be necessary to trim a little from the plastic ramp near the flasher. It looks like the right side will be OK.
When Bill Webb (local good guy dude) built the cab for me he made it about 1/16 inch wider internally. This helped out with the tight clearance at the subway. I still had to bend the front nub of the right support bracket towards the cab a little.
Wally

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#21 3 years ago
Quoted from wallybgood:

Hey RS
In order to get the TAF playfield close to the original depth, the sliding surface of the Stern support rails sit at 11-7/8 in from the cab bottom. They are parallel with the cab bottom. Some other games (FH, WH20, various WPC-95) that I checked sit at different depths.
The front edge of the support rails are positioned 26-3/8 in from interior of the coin door front wood.
The pivot brackets are located 9 in from the playfield top edge.
I tried the brackets with temporary SMS attachment first. I was OK with the placement and then went with the #10 carriage bolts.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed info!

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#22 3 years ago

Just finished my slide out conversion on my TAF project, learned a lot did some things different from Wally's documentation above. Did not have to do any cutting of the backboard or the plastics on mine to miss the side rails in full upright position due to some changes I made.

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#23 3 years ago
Quoted from pfinny:

Just finished my slide out conversion on my TAF project, learned a lot did some things different from Wally's documentation above. Did not have to do any cutting of the backboard or the plastics on mine to miss the side rails in full upright position due to some changes I made.
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So you have to document what you did... please? . I've been thinking about doing this and just wanna see someone do a conversion on an existing game cabinet.

#24 3 years ago
Quoted from pfinny:

Just finished my slide out conversion on my TAF project, learned a lot did some things different from Wally's documentation above. Did not have to do any cutting of the backboard or the plastics on mine to miss the side rails in full upright position due to some changes I made.
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I would love to do this on my resto coming up!

Please post what you did, and an idiots guide for how to do it!

#25 3 years ago
Quoted from damadczar:

So you have to document what you did... please? . I've been thinking about doing this and just wanna see someone do a conversion on an existing game cabinet.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

I would love to do this on my resto coming up!
Please post what you did, and an idiots guide for how to do it!

Will post some more info soon, even with info that Wally provided still had to do some trial and error to get it to all work correctly. The biggest obstacle I encountered was getting the playfield raised up high enough with the new supports. The measurements from bottom of cabinet did not work for me. I also bypassed drilling new holes in the playfield for the new mounts and opted to use existing holes and custom mount I fabricated out of 3/16" steel which I will explain all later.

#26 3 years ago

Here is Part 1 of my write up, will add more as time permits. I did what I did for the following reasons: 1.) Clearance over the Subway and Thing mounting tabs so bracket would sit flush 2.) No drilling our mounting of T-Nuts into the top side of the playfield 3.) No removal of side rails 4.) No removal of anything on the top side of the playfield 5.) Utilization of existing mounting holes and screws. I bought all the metal and other misc. off of McMaster-Carr web site.

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#27 3 years ago

Ok, I’m glad I came across this thread. My next restoration will be an TAF. This mod will definitely be done.

#28 3 years ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

Ok, I’m glad I came across this thread. My next restoration will be an TAF. This mod will definitely be done.

I will do the same, its awsome!

#29 3 years ago

Here is Part 2, just goes into more detail on the remaining brackets that I made that get installed on the playfield.

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#30 3 years ago

Here is part 3 of my write up, pictures are pretty much self explanatory. There will be at least one more write up after this explaining what I did with the brackets inside the cabinet. Enjoy !

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#31 2 years ago

Finished up the TAF project. I had to trim the plastic ramp flange behind the flasher a bit to clear the slide and pivot support bracket while in the full upright position. Was able to install a taller backboard. (7 in.) Everything worked out OK. More info on build at https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/there-s-one-more-addams-family.
Wally

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#32 2 years ago

When you say backboard, what exactly do you mean? For some reason, I'm blanking.
I see that you shortened the edge side bracket. Don't understand what you mean about a taller backboard. Do you mean the light backboard?

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from damadczar:

When you say backboard, what exactly do you mean? For some reason, I'm blanking.
I see that you shortened the edge side bracket. Don't understand what you mean about a taller backboard. Do you mean the light backboard?

I'm referring to the upright board that is attached to the far back of the playfield. Originally, TAF had a 4 1/2 inch tall backboard. I was able to fit a 7 inch tall board to which I applied some art.
Wally

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