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Addams Family - Scratch Build?

By Shredder565

4 years ago


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#1126 3 years ago
Quoted from wallybgood:

Hey 565
I have a few more TAF guide bending pics/measurements on my OneDrive. https://tinyurl.com/uvz97tz
Sketches and measurements for A-15240, A-15241, A-15243, A-15250, A-15251, A-15374, 01-10427, 01-10654 courtesy of Greg Bitz. My 2-D sheet metal CAD's were based upon these. Thanks again, Greg.
Wally

Just looking at the photos of this process gives me a headache. Holy smokes that must have been a crazy amount of work doing this all from scratch not to mention the amount of skill involved for the fabricator to create all of these parts.

Gord

1 month later
#1204 3 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

Dear God no.
This.
https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/
If you need any riveting done, I'd be more than happy to do it for you. I've got the rivets and the tools.

Unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket to spend on riveting tools and supplies you will be wise to take Bryan up on his very generous offer. Bryan restored several of my pinball machines and he does a great job and he is very picky with regards to quality which is what collectors greatly appreciate.

Here are some tools that you will need to look at if you want to do the riveting yourself.

Best
https://www.hansonrivet.com/tools-machines/tubular-rivet-tools-machines/bench-riveter/

Next Best
https://www.hansonrivet.com/tools-machines/tubular-rivet-tools-machines/hand-rivet-squeezers/

3rd Best
https://www.hansonrivet.com/tools-machines/solid-rivet-tools-machines/hand-rivet-clinchers/

All three types of riveting tools will do the job, but you have to decide how much you want to spend and if this is something that you will be doing again in the future.

Gord

10 months later
#2319 2 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

here's a question. Does anyone have a complete link/list to CORRECT book case parts?
I pretty much have the top top side done, but it's not the prettiest job you've ever seen.
If I can order all the parts at once it might be easier. I don't need the motor, base, or metal base again though .

See the 2 page PDF document below for a complete list of the Bookcase Assembly parts for TAF.

TAF Bookcase Parts

http://www.actionpinball.com/parts.php?item=03-8620
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-862X

Gord

TAF_Bookcase_Assembly.pdfTAF_Bookcase_Assembly.pdf

6 months later
#2565 2 years ago

Hi @shredder565,

I don't know if you have a wire lead bending tool, but if you don't you may want to consider one as you can make your diodes look nice and uniform on all of your switches. This can be helpful when you need to conserve space under the playfield to avoid potential shorts as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Production-Devices-801-Forming-Resistors/dp/B07XYDGSD9/ref=dp_fod_1
https://www.mcmaster.com/wire-bending-jigs/
https://tinyurl.com/yy9ore2p

Gord

7 months later
#2658 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

this is the one I got, but these are obviously pop rivets. would it be ok to secure it with a lock screw, or do I really need to rivet it?
amazon.com link »

I think that pinballinreno was recommending the following rivet tool as opposed to the pop rivet tool that you ordered.

ebay.com link: itm

Gord

#2661 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

OK, I will put that on the list. but, dumb guy question. having never done riveting before. The rivets the manual recomended go straight through the hole, both in the metal, and the switch. how does the rivet tool fix that so they stay in place? having a hard time visualizing how it works.

1 month later
#2929 1 year ago

Just an FYI, if you are looking for a simple easy to use DMM that is of pretty decent quality you may want to look at the Klein Tools MM500 auto ranging multimeter. I use it for almost all of my pinball electrical needs and I wouldn't use it if it wasn't simple to use.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EO2HFPI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title

The YouTube videos below also are very helpful in explaining how to use this DMM.


Gord

2 months later
#3364 1 year ago
Quoted from wallybgood:

Hey 565
IMHO, send the MPU to a knowledgeable board repair guy like Chris Hibler. You'll end up with a nice, like new board that can be used as a spare. I have seen these boards destroyed by well meaning guys that attempt repairs by "shotgunning" components. Board traces and pads are very fragile and require a higher level of soldering expertise.
Wally
Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
http://www.ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact
https://www.youtube.com/c/ChrisHiblerPinball
http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

This is very wise advice and Chris does a great job and his prices are very fair. Once you get to the end of your journey with this TAF build you will likely have another PCB that you can use for practicing your troubleshooting and soldering skills on.

Gord

10 months later
#3979 6 months ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Im using this tool with great results.
You can do double wire insertions as well as small gauge wire. If the crimp looks loose, just quickly re-crimp on the next smaller cutout.
The ratchet crimper holds the pin so you can insert the wire into the pin and then crimp it down:
https://www.amazon.com/IWISS-SN-28B-Crimping-AWG28-18-Dupont/dp/B00OMM4YUY/ref=sr_1_3_sspa
See a proper crimper in action:

I use the same crimper and and it works very well. There are several online videos that show you how to crimp using this crimper.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iwiss+sn-28b

Gord

1 month later
#4507 4 months ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

I bought one or two toothpick boxes a few days ago and most seemed too small for the hole. and the smallest dowel lowes had was too big:/... went looking for the sticks I used last time when I had a hole to fill, and couldn't find the damn things :/. I never throw anything out and had a whole bag of 'em still left.....wherever I got those from where the perfect size. still have the wood glue, just couldn't find the darn sticks.

Hi @shredder565,

You can put multiple cut toothpicks into one reamed out screw hole along with a little bit of wood glue. It will then be a tight fit and ready for you to attach something (bracket, light socket, etc.) via a small screw. I have used this method for several years and it provides a nice solid base for the screw to bite into and I have never had any issues.

Gord

1 month later
#4726 3 months ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Nothing will happen.
Their purpose is to shift the high power of the flipper coil to low power just "before" the end of the flipper travel, or "stroke".
Testing is simple.
With the flipper button pressed, manually bat the flipper down with a firm swipe of the hand.
The flipper should automatically return to its extended position with full force.
Note:
If you put the high power source wire on the low side of the coil, and the low power to the high side of the coil (get the source wires reversed), it wont break the coil "but" the flipper will be "weak" and not hit the ball very far. Checking your voltages here is "recommended".
EOS switch adjustment is straight forward:
The switch is "NORMALLY CLOSED" to engage high power "UNTIL" the flipper gets near the end of its stroke.
The switch should open about 3/16" before the flipper bat reaches its absolute end of travel to engage "LOW POWER".
The gap of the EOS switch contacts should be 1/16" to 1/8" when the flipper is fully extended.
This is done so that you can capture the ball on a flipper and hold it for as long as you want, and NOT overheat the flipper coil.
Your coils are "dual wound" for this EXACT purpose. The primary winding has thicker wire for high power.
The low power (secondary winding), or "hold" power coil has thinner wire on the coil for low power.
One can visually see the differences by examining the coil winding wires at the lugs.
This is why the flipper coils have 3 lugs.
The separate windings "share" the common center lug (2 coil windings soldered on it) but have their own power lugs that accept different source voltages.
50 to 70 volts for high power (thicker wire side)
20 volts for low power (thinner wire side).
Note:
There is some debate on whether you need EOS switches at all on a Fliptronics system, as its a pulse operated system controlled by the computer.
I think the game plays better with them in.
Also if the engineers put them in, then I put them in.
With the EOS switches, if a flipper gets knocked down by 3 balls hitting it at the same time, it will slightly move but go back into position without having to release and the press the flipper button again because the high power will re-engage automatically as the EOS switch contacts close.

Thanks for the EOS class. It is interesting why these systems work the way that they work and your explanation makes it easier to understand.

Gord

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