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Addams Family - Scratch Build?


By Shredder565

1 year ago



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#1551 66 days ago

after I get the backbox mostly done, I will focus on the braiding next.

#1552 66 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

oops, crud ...
added

There are 8 pieces to the light board attachment system.

When installing the light board lower hinge pin.

Its common to add 2 or 4 washers over the pin to get its height correct.

You are also going to need the parts on the right side:

insert Latch
2 insert stops
lower insert guide and support

Here are some pics
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#1555 66 days ago

Nope. will add them to the next buy.

Can I attach the playfield level brackets onto the playfield with it on the Rotis? or are the Rotis brackets in the way of placement?

#1556 66 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

Nope. will add them to the next buy.
Can I attach the playfield level brackets onto the playfield with it on the Rotis? or are the Rotis brackets in the way of placement?

To place the playfield in the lower cabinet all you need are the left and right rear playfield holder brackets:
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/01-8726-L-1

And the 2 front playfield hangers:
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/01-11401

the rear hangers go over the pivots.

The front hangers go into the slots on the lockdown bar reciever:
https://www.pinballlife.com/williamsbally-lockdown-bar-lever-guide-receiver-assembly-wpcwpc-95.html

Use caution to not scratch or gouge any side art that may have been applied to the cabinet.

Cover with heavy construction paper or side art protectors.

https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

#1557 64 days ago

So, it just kind of rests on these items? nothing physically attaches to the playfield itself?

I just want to say, thank you to this community for putting up with me for the past 12 months. I blindly went into this project for the love of pinball, and the challenge of a project I was pretty sure I could bring to fruition...and the need to keep busy in a rather dull life... all for the love of pinball..especially this particular game itself. And without ever seeing the inside of a machine in person, I appreciate everyone putting up with some of the most basic questions that re second nature to everyone else. made this project fun .

I hope to have it finished this time next year. and will do a big video on it's first power up .

#1558 64 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

I just want to say, thank you to this community for putting up with me for the past 12 months.

Everyone is hoping it gets done!
12 months already?

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#1559 64 days ago
Quoted from transprtr4u:

Everyone is hoping it gets done!
12 months already?[quoted image]

almost!

#1 11 months ago

#1560 64 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

So, it just kind of rests on these items? nothing physically attaches to the playfield itself?

Some of those parts are most definitely physically attached to the playfield! Namely the front and rear hanger brackets. Those get screwed/bolted to the playfield. But once those are in place, it's a quick-release system without any more fasteners involved. You just drop the rear brackets onto the pivot nuts in back and lower the front hangers onto the lockbar in front - there's nothing more to attach at that point. The geometry of this system of brackets is cleverly designed to lock the playfield in place, except for the one special case where you tilt it up and lift it straight up out of the cabinet. In all other cases, it's basically locked into the cabinet and can't go anywhere, because of the way the openings in the brackets align with each other (and with gravity).

#1561 63 days ago

one of my back box hinge parts arrived. when the rest show up, I'll try and delve into figuring this out .

they cancelled my grill order cause they only had one left heh.

#1562 63 days ago
Quoted from mjr:

Some of those parts are most definitely physically attached to the playfield! Namely the front and rear hanger brackets. Those get screwed/bolted to the playfield. But once those are in place, it's a quick-release system without any more fasteners involved. You just drop the rear brackets onto the pivot nuts in back and lower the front hangers onto the lockbar in front - there's nothing more to attach at that point. The geometry of this system of brackets is cleverly designed to lock the playfield in place, except for the one special case where you tilt it up and lift it straight up out of the cabinet. In all other cases, it's basically locked into the cabinet and can't go anywhere, because of the way the openings in the brackets align with each other (and with gravity).

So, as I understand it, once these two parts attach to the playfield, they will pretty much go in like this? only straighter ?

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#1563 63 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

So, as I understand it, once these two parts attach to the playfield, they will pretty much go in like this? only straighter ?[quoted image][quoted image]

Yep.

There are bolt holes in the playfield for those front ones.

A combination of t-nuts snd playfield screws for the rear holders.

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#1564 63 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

So, as I understand it, once these two parts attach to the playfield, they will pretty much go in like this? only straighter ?[quoted image][quoted image]

Don't forget to connect ground braid under every metal part (where the electric shock is a risk), like siderails screw, power box, lockdown receiver, shooter, transformer leg, leg bolt plate, coin door, etc.
You can find examples in HEP thread:
http://christopherhutchins.com/gallery/album411/46_G?full=1

#1565 61 days ago

all parts here...On Friday, I will see about getting things installed.

I can at least attach the 'back' end of the playfield partts. the grips are in the way on the front end of the playfield, and I should be able to get the back box stuff installed easy enough..
it'll be nice to get the electronic boards up

#1566 61 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

it'll be nice to get the electronic boards up

And the ground braid...

#1567 61 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

And the ground braid...

still have to get that. I have it bookmarked on here for the last month and havn't gotten around to it yet.

#1568 61 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

still have to get that. I have it bookmarked on here for the last month and havn't gotten around to it yet.

I find it easiest to finish the lower cabinet first, completely, then tackle the backbox/head.

#1569 59 days ago

step one done. can't do step two unless I remove it from the rotis.

don't have time for the other steps. will try those monday.
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#1570 59 days ago

double delete

#1571 59 days ago

wrong screws, I know, but they are in. I am tempted to try and test fit it on monday with some help.

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#1572 59 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

wrong screws, I know, but they are in. I am tempted to try and test fit it on monday with some help.[quoted image]

Cover the side art of the cabinet while installing.

There is only 1/4" of clearance of 1/8" on either side.

Its easy to get it jammed and scratch the upper walls.

Also do you have the back panel board for the playfield?

It should be installed the check its fit and see if it scrapes the sides and if its level with the beveled upper rear cross piece of the cabinet when you rotate the playfield on its pivots.

#1573 58 days ago

nope, no back panel board for the playfield.

I noticed the lack of clearance. I tried to do it myself, and soon realised this was a DISASTER in the making, so decided to wait for help monday.

Ordered a ground braid from here for $18's. And ordering the rivets needed... refund check finally arrived from the feds.

1 x Master Rivet Kit$30.00 USD
Subtotal$30.00 USD
Shipping$17.00 USD
Total$47.00 US

#1574 58 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

nope, no back panel board for the playfield.
I noticed the lack of clearance. I tried to do it myself, and soon realised this was a DISASTER in the making, so decided to wait for help monday.
Ordered a ground braid from here for $18's. And ordering the rivets needed... refund check finally arrived from the feds.
1 x Master Rivet Kit$30.00 USD
Subtotal$30.00 USD
Shipping$17.00 USD
Total$47.00 US

The playfield will get installed and pulled several times to get it to fit right.
I use these a lot to protect my sideart and side mirrors:

https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

I think you can get a playfield back panel from Taylor Reese at Reese rails.
He has a template for it.

Other than that someone might be able to pull the dimensions for you to make one up.

Its just a little beveled piece of plywood.

#1575 56 days ago

well, I got to enjoy it in for a few minutes at least, but as you can see, there is a problem .It fits in fine, but doesn't reach the latching section.

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#1576 56 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

well, I got to enjoy it in for a few minutes at least, but as you can see, there is a problem .It fits in fine, but doesn't reach the latching section.[quoted image][quoted image]

Rear pivot bolts in wrong place?

#1577 56 days ago

pivot bolts should by aprox 14 3/4 from back of cabinet.

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#1578 56 days ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

pivot bolts should by aprox 14 3/4 from back of cabinet.
[quoted image]

I always measure from the front of the cabinet.

It hangs from the front, not the rear.

Quoted from Shredder565:

well, I got to enjoy it in for a few minutes at least, but as you can see, there is a problem .It fits in fine, but doesn't reach the latching section.[quoted image][quoted image]

All is not lost.

Measure from the front of the cabinet now that you have a reference.

Drill a new set of holes.

Fill the hole with a cover of something silimlar, it wil look just fine:

amazon.com link »

Check the fit with the back panel installed. Insure that it doesnt scrape the sides when pivoting.

#1579 56 days ago

yep, those are exactly right thankfully. the only other thing I can th ink of is, maybe these are in the wrong spot?

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#1580 56 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I always measure from the front of the cabinet.
It hangs front the front, not the rear.

All is not lost.
Measure from the front of the cabinet now that you have a reference.
Drill a new set of holes.
Fill the hole with a cover of something silimlar, it wil look just fine:
amazon.com link »

If I have too....but only as a last resort. I 'm still hoping something a little simpler will work .

#1581 56 days ago

Hard to tell from the picture but are your brackets on the correct sides of the playfield?

#1582 56 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

If I have too....but only as a last resort. I 'm still hoping something a little simpler will work .

Its unlikely that the playfield holders are incorrectly placed. They are dual t-nutted and inset for the t-nuts. You can certainly check this.

Very many of these playfields have been installed and that has not been an issue.

But it does look like you have the left and right holders reversed.

#1583 56 days ago

I just noticed that it looks like you have the holders reversed. This would make then off by quite a bit.

The angled cut of the holder should face the rear of the playfield.

The way these are installed you cant stand the playfield up in the holder, it would slip out.

Check my photos for reference, look at photo number 4.

#1584 56 days ago
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#1585 56 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I just noticed that it looks like you have the holders reversed. This would make then off by quite a bit.
Check my photos for reference

Is that so?

Quoted from fiberdude120:

Hard to tell from the picture but are your brackets on the correct sides of the playfield?

Quoted from pinballinreno:

I just noticed that it looks like you have the holders reversed. This would make then off by quite a bit.
Check my photos for reference

#1586 56 days ago

You called it right, the holders are reversed.

post #1579 shows the holder slot facing up. It would be impossible to stand the playfield on the pivot.

The angled cut of the holder should face the rear of the playfield and be behind the bookcase circle/cutout.

#1587 56 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

post #1579 shows the holder slot facing up. It would be impossible to stand the playfield on the pivot.
The angled cut of the holder should face the rear of the playfield.

Thats what I am getting at in post #1581

#1588 56 days ago

Well I sure hope this is an easy fix without drilling anything.

#1589 56 days ago

wrong image

#1590 56 days ago
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#1591 56 days ago

does that help any?

wrong image

#1592 56 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

does that help any?
[quoted image]

You have the holders reversed, its on the wrong side and the slot of the holder has to face down.

#1593 56 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

You have the holders reversed, its on the wrong side and the slot of the holder has to face down.

see, I was hoping it would be a simpler solution . I'll fix it after lunch .

#1594 56 days ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

see, I was hoping it would be a simpler solution . I'll fix it after lunch .

LOL, I can see why you had trouble installing it.

#1595 56 days ago

Fixing pinball one screw at a time.

#1596 56 days ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

Fixing pinball one screw at a time.

one screw-up at a time? lol, thats my super power lol.

#1597 56 days ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

Fixing pinball one screw at a time.

one screw up and one screw ball .

#1598 56 days ago

I know this is your project but we are all going to take credit when you fire this up for your first game. LOL

#1599 56 days ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

I know this is your project but we are all going to take credit when you fire this up for your first game. LOL

as well if should be .

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#1600 56 days ago

NOW WE ARE COOKING

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