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Addams Family - Scratch Build?

By Shredder565

4 years ago


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#1351 3 years ago
Quoted from transprtr4u:

Save the quarter, set your game to "free play"
Following!

I have my Genesis set to play with quarters. Make it more nostalgic I think. Got $20 worth and when I run out I put $20 bill in there. Just for kicks to see how long it will take to get what I paid for the machine. Probably will take a while but it's all in fun anyways. Funding my next pin by playing the one I have one quarter at a time lol

#1352 3 years ago

I do have Arcade 1up on free play, obviously.

but something about the pinball on free play doesn't feel right for some reason. I might do it eventually, but for the first few months of working ability, I think I just might keep it on 50 cents play just to make it authentic .

I had just enough in the bank to get a bookcase blue pad that was back in stock on marco. so that's installed. waiting until september to start ordering parts for the THING section to get that properly done first. Then I guess I will work on getting the Back Boards stuff done.

#1353 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

I do have Arcade 1up on free play, obviously.
but something about the pinball on free play doesn't feel right for some reason. I might do it eventually, but for the first few months of working ability, I think I just might keep it on 50 cents play just to make it authentic .
I had just enough in the bank to get a bookcase blue pad that was back in stock on marco. so that's installed. waiting until september to start ordering parts for the THING section to get that properly done first. Then I guess I will work on getting the Back Boards stuff done.

Any news?

#1354 3 years ago

Nothing too report.

Trying to get credit under control first. A little tougher these days. especially when things keep on breaking and need replacement. like my 3d Printer nozzle that got clogged up and looked like abee-hive. ugh.

Hoping when I get at least $1500 saved up, I can buy the THING speaker cover and some speakers so I can get something going again. then midway through September, get an LED Color DMD.

#1355 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

Nothing too report.
Trying to get credit under control first. A little tougher these days. especially when things keep on breaking and need replacement. like my 3d Printer nozzle that got clogged up and looked like abee-hive. ugh.
Hoping when I get at least $1500 saved up, I can buy the THING speaker cover and some speakers so I can get something going again. then midway through December, get an LED Color DMD.

Man...i wish I had some parts to donate you, but I don't own an Addams family.

I do know that dc2010 has 2 of them, and may possibly have extra parts.
Have you created any wanted ads or trade ads for parts/pieces?

#1356 3 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Man...i wish I had some parts to donate you, but I don't own an Addams family.
I do know that dc2010 has 2 of them, and may possibly have extra parts.
Have you created any wanted ads or trade ads for parts/pieces?

nothing yet. i'm trying to get what I can get new first. THEN worry about what's left over. there is so much still available new that I haven't even thought of it yet.

so far, the only used part I Have this the wiring harness.

#1357 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

nothing yet. i'm trying to get what I can get new first. THEN worry about what's left over. there is so much still available new that I haven't even thought of it yet.
so far, the only used part I Have this the wiring harness.

If you have a complete used wiring harness, you can always make up a new one.

#1358 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

If you have a complete used wiring harness, you can always make up a new one.

that is a good point!

#1359 3 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Soldering quality is a combination of experience, equipment and materials.
- What kind of solder are you using?
- What kind of soldering iron are you using... is it temperature regulated or not?
- Keep your tip cleaned and tinned.
- Before applying solder you need to heat up the point that you will be applying the solder.
- Don't apply the solder to the tip of the iron but to the pad and lead on the PCB.
It looks like your solder is may be bubbling too much... which could mean you've got some less than ideal solder.

First of all, just found this thread. Quite the project you have started! I'm impressed. I would love to have a #TAF like you are making.

I am a little late to the game, so to speak. I wanted to chime in on the solder post. Definitely use 63/37 solder. It is easier to work with and creates more consistent joints. I switched to 63/37 and have never looked back.

FROM Wikibooks:

63/37 solder is made of 63% tin and 37% lead. It has a melting point of 183°C, slightly lower than the more common 60/40 blend. The primary advantage of this solder is not the lower melting point, but its eutectic property. Non-eutectic solders, like the 60/40 solder, have a semi-solid state between solid and liquid. If a joint is moved during this stage, it can result in what is called a cold solder joint. Eutectic solders, like the 63/37, do not have this semi-solid state and are thus considered easier to work with as it produces fewer bad joints. However, these solders typically cost more than their non-eutectic counterparts.

#1360 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

If you have a complete used wiring harness, you can always make up a new one.

I was toying around with the idea.

Of course, now that I have a complete one, our wire guys don't show up as much anymore dueto covid and I miss them most of the time they are here.
so next time I corner one, I will have him look at it and see what it will take to create not only a duplicate, but a schematic so easy anyone can follow it and re create it.

#1361 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

I was toying around with the idea.
Of course, now that I have a complete one, our wire guys don't show up as much anymore dueto covid and I miss them most of the time they are here.
so next time I corner one, I will have him look at it and see what it will take to create not only a duplicate, but a schematic so easy anyone can follow it and re create it.

I would say that if you have the wire and the time, make a new harness.
A 30 year old crispy harness is not as good as a brand new one.

Chris at HEP makes them all the time due to terrible brittleness and corrosion inside the wire insulation.

#1362 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I would say that if you have the wire and the time, make a new harness.
A 30 year old crispy harness is not as good as a brand new one.
Chris at HEP makes them all the time due to terrible brittleness and corrosion inside the wire insulation.

Making the harness is not terribly difficult, Time consuming maybe but not difficult. The issue is having all the "correct color coded" wire on hand to make a harness. There are a lot of different color codes in a wire harness.

Chris has an impressive wire selection, but I think he sometimes has to settle with either a slightly different gauge or color.

Not that it is a huge deal. The game will work with different color wire but if you do not use the OEM color codes you cannot use the OEM manual to trace wires and diagnose issues down the road.

#1363 3 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Making the harness is not terribly difficult, Time consuming maybe but not difficult. The issue is having all the "correct color coded" wire on hand to make a harness. There are a lot of different color codes in a wire harness.
Chris has an impressive wire selection, but I think he sometimes has to settle with either a slightly different gauge or color.
Not that it is a huge deal. The game will work with different color wire but if you do not use the OEM color codes you cannot use the OEM manual to trace wires and diagnose issues down the road.

Absolutely.

#1364 3 years ago

So, while a little break is being taken, the current state of things as they stand now.

I still need to put in flashers, switches, a few more ball guides. the electric chair, the thing box.
The Underside still needs about 50% of it's parts put in.

And the cabinet will be taken to task next. first step is to get the THING panel complete. with speakers, dmd and panel cover. then I will get the back board and metal back board ordered if those are still on the PM table. Install the few CPU boards I have and hunt down the rest for a complete set. then focus on getting the indide of the bottom done.

I'd LIKE to try and power it on before 2021. Sans playfield of course.

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#1365 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

metal back board ordered if those are still on the PM table.

Still got ya covered there when needed along with light board

#1366 3 years ago

Just a though, As you assemble the topside don’t forget to add rubbers where they go before things get installed in the way

#1367 3 years ago
Quoted from Stretch7:

Still got ya covered there when needed along with light board

sorry to make ya wait so long, but the former secret order took priority

#1368 3 years ago

still taking a break trying to save some funds..but bills bills bills..sigh. now looking for an october part rebuying start.

in the meantime, working on KITT. I sanded the holes of the former try, and printed some new 3D Back boards for the dash so the electronics would be a little more stable. once the screws are sunken in, you won't even know they are there.

I need to get a few more parts set in stone, then I will take them all out, mark where they go, sand, repaint so it looks nice, re install with new over lays...and boom. hopefully a completed dash. after a few years sitting un finished.

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#1369 3 years ago

getting ready to try and get back into things slowly.
just to confirm , was this confirmed as an ok site to buy this from?

https://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/addams-family-speaker-panel.html

May not be museum ready, but best I can do untrained. ready to take out now and prepare for final sanding and paint spruce up.

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#1370 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

getting ready to try and get back into things slowly.
just to confirm , was this confirmed as an ok site to buy this from?
https://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/addams-family-speaker-panel.html
May not be museum ready, but best I can do untrained. ready to take out now and prepare for final sanding and paint spruce up.[quoted image]

Yes they are good.

#1371 3 years ago

By chance, was yours the one Regular Cars did? You’re semi-close to them/me.

#1372 3 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

By chance, was yours the one Regular Cars did? You’re semi-close to them/me.

no idea what that is . had to look it up . Got my dash off a KR FB page

#1373 3 years ago

Going back to Rivets for a second. For the cheaper $20 rivet pounding option. any good YT Videos on how that works?

#1374 3 years ago

Addams Family Speaker Panel
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Subtotal €74.34
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Grand Total Excl. Tax €74.34
Tax €0.00
Grand Total Incl. Tax €74.34

#1375 3 years ago

My THING Speaker cover shipped. probably here next week coming from the EU.

The choice of which speakers to get rears up again heh. https://www.facebook.com/marcospec/posts/10158015793233423 apparently they think pinsound is an upgrade .

#1376 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

My THING Speaker cover shipped. probably here next week coming from the EU.
The choice of which speakers to get rears up again heh. https://www.facebook.com/marcospec/posts/10158015793233423 apparently they think pinsound is an upgrade .

Pinsound plus the pinsound shaker is awesome!

I like flipper fidelity speakers but any good speakers will work.

Pinball has very simple sounds.

Over the top speakers show very little improvement over just very good speakers.

However the pinsound turn key shaker is amazing.

#1377 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Pinsound plus the pinsound shaker is awesome!
I like flipper fidelity speakers but any good speakers will work.
Pinball has very simple sounds.
Over the top speakers show very little improvement over just very good speakers.
However the pinsound turn key shaker is amazing.

Something like this seems around the same price though.

https://flipperfidelity.com/williams-bally-complete-replacement-speaker-system-for-wpc93-dcs-machines/

#1379 3 years ago

The First new part in a month .

If I stay on track for november now (hopefully), I can complete that speaker box.

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#1380 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

The First new part in a month .
If I stay on track for november now (hopefully), I can complete that speaker box.
[quoted image]

Get the boardset in, ribbon cables, speakers, display and power supply.

Get that cabinet completely done.

Fire it up!

Its a great ferling to see the game come alive.

#1381 3 years ago

Pinsound, shaker and flipper fidelity speakers IMHO...

#1382 3 years ago

ordered this sucker for the rivets. thinking of getting the back box mounting boards done today too..

https://www.erivet.com/product_detail.cfm?ID=ERIVET_4514374_98712240&itemtype=CLNCR&brand_cd=&view=list&sortBy=itemNbr_asc&itemNbr=HT%2D350

#1383 3 years ago

I think you need the one for 1/8” rivets. That one is for 1/16 rivets

#1384 3 years ago

thats the wrong one, pinball rivets are 1/8"

get this one:

https://www.erivet.com/product_detail.cfm?ID=ERIVET_4516830_40856738&itemtype=CLNCR&brand_cd=&view=list&sortBy=itemNbr_asc&itemNbr=HT%2D174

You might need a lower "head" die, they sell them there.

In a pinch just "cup" out a 3/8" sized head of a lag bolt with a dremel wheel and sand it smooth.

#1385 3 years ago

Great riveter. I put mine in my drill press and then “ press “ them in

#1386 3 years ago

we measured the rivet hole and it looked like 1/16s?

this is for the playfield rivets

#1387 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

we measured the rivet hole and it looked like 1/16s?
this is for the playfield rivets

Yep... I have one. I use it as a stand alone or in a drill press

#1388 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

we measured the rivet hole and it looked like 1/16s?
this is for the playfield rivets

Do you mean the spade bolt rivets for the flat rails?

Those are 1/8"

All of the other ones including switch stack rivets are all 1/8" in slightly varying lengths.

The Hanson ht-174 is the definitive hand riverter.

I have the pinrestore, tonka and the ht-174

The ht-174 gets the most use over all.

Its especially handy to tighten loose rivets in order to drill them out.

#1389 3 years ago

sigh. guess I'm gonna have to see if I can return it and get the right size.

finally ordered my light board and cpu boards for the back box.
Maybe I can get those installed and make it look a little more complete.

#1390 3 years ago

You can find all of the exact rivet sizes in the parts list on ipdb. Look for parts starting with 07-6688 and 07-6697. There are about eight distinct types used, all 1/8" diameter. The ipdb list is also helpful in figuring out which ones go where, since it's organized hierarchically to group the assemblies. If you're making a shopping list, I think you can skip all of the 1/2" and 9/16" (length) rivets if you're buying pre-assembled stand-up targets and leaf switches, since that's where all of those sizes end up (so your pre-assembled targets will come with the rivets already installed).

#1391 3 years ago
Quoted from mjr:

You can find all of the exact rivet sizes in the parts list on ipdb. Look for parts starting with 07-6688 and 07-6697. There are about eight distinct types used, all 1/8" diameter. The ipdb list is also helpful in figuring out which ones go where, since it's organized hierarchically to group the assemblies. If you're making a shopping list, I think you can skip all of the 1/2" and 9/16" (length) rivets if you're buying pre-assembled stand-up targets and leaf switches, since that's where all of those sizes end up (so your pre-assembled targets will come with the rivets already installed).

Or just get the pinrestore assortment, it's pretty handy.

#1392 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Do you mean the spade bolt rivets for the flat rails?
Those are 1/8"
All of the other ones including switch stack rivets are all 1/8" in slightly varying lengths.
The Hanson ht-174 is the definitive hand riverter.
I have the pinrestore, tonka and the ht-174
The ht-174 gets the most use over all.
Its especially handy to tighten loose rivets in order to drill them out.

yes, for the spade bolts. I got the proper 1/8th one now.

#1393 3 years ago

Next Week I'll decide on what to do with the speakers. Are there any that are cheaper than $150 for a set of three?

Also, Once I get the boards installed, the lights for the cloud topper, and the Thing Panel done/ installed, is that pretty much it for the back box, right?

#1394 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

Next Week I'll decide on what to do with the speakers. Are there any that are cheaper than $150 for a set of three?

If you're looking to save money on the speakers, you can roll your own with car speakers, and get the price down to probably $75 or less for the set. The after-market pinball speaker systems are the same types of drivers as in car speakers. The main value of using one of the pinball products is that they've done the legwork of picking drivers that fit physically and electrically and that sound good.

#1395 3 years ago
Quoted from mjr:

If you're looking to save money on the speakers, you can roll your own with car speakers, and get the price down to probably $75 or less for the set. The after-market pinball speaker systems are the same types of drivers as in car speakers. The main value of using one of the pinball products is that they've done the legwork of picking drivers that fit physically and electrically and that sound good.

hmm, in that case, I guess I will just go with the flipper fidelity brand.

#1396 3 years ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

hmm, in that case, I guess I will just go with the flipper fidelity brand.

I would, since you are getting pinsound anyway.

Get the pinsound stereo cable too.

You can add the motion control and headphone station later.

You will also need the LEDOCD and GIOCD boards for the backbox.

You can also add these later after the game is built.

#1397 3 years ago

speakers get ordered tomorrow. that just leaves the led dmd, one or two extra cpu boards....and not much else for the back box.

#1398 3 years ago

Will need the light door and all the metal brackets for that and the braiding and mesh for top air holes

#1399 3 years ago

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#1400 3 years ago

Speakers have arrived .. not sure if I need extra parts to install them, or if I should just wait till I get the dmd and get it all done at once but they are here

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